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    Michelle -I believe you made $1500 in 1 night in Chi.
    Now, what was your nightly average? Have you
    worked in N.Y. or N.J.? Where please? What was your
    nightly average?The most you made was what?The
    least?
    BTW- contact does not necessarily translate into big
    earnings. Have you heard about the " underground"
    lap-dance scene in N.Y. Full service to clear $400 or
    $500 a night. From a customer's point of view- they
    don't make condoms thick enough for me to go near
    any of those women.
    Right now there is lot of bitching and moaning from
    some of the Scores dancers-earnings are down
    beause it's summer; the recession; the smoking ban
    yada,yada.The Penthouse girls seem to be more
    upbeat even though I have never seen that place
    very crowded.The first time I went the dancers
    almost outnumbered the customers BUT that was back
    in July.

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    JULIET,JULIET; may I call you JULIE? How did such a
    smart girl like you do well on the SAT with such poor
    skills in READING COMPREHENSION? I do NOT have an
    issue with women such as yourself who do well in and
    prefer working in a low-contact or even NO contact
    club like PEC or Scores.I'm glad you're doing well. If
    you're happy-I'm happy. You want to talk about
    "venom"-WHO was it who charged into this thread
    with all those nice things to say about GGR? That was
    you right?
    You're not going to believe this but I have a lot of
    respect for dancers. Like many things in life- there
    is a wide spectrum of choice about where to work
    as a dancer and where to go and spend as a customer.
    Have I been to PEC? Yes. Would I go back there? Only
    to entertain a certain kind of client or if someone was
    treating me. There are other places I enjoy more and which I think are more worth my time.
    If I were a dancer would I work there over GGR? Yes,
    if contact were an issue I certainly would.If I KNEW I
    could earn more there than somewhere else- sure!
    who wouldn't.
    BUT WHAT I wouldn't do is trash people and places
    that I didn't know first hand for myself. THAT's what
    you did that I didn't like at all. Peace sister!

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    The Kid,I have been going to chicago for 6 years to work,I never stay in town more than 14 days, with 8 to10 being more the average,I go in 3 or 4 times a year and only during conventions, so that figure is an average, my nights wouldsometimes be more than that by a few hundred and sometimes less maybe 1100, but if I worked say 7 shiftsI would never come home with less than 10,000 ,but that is about all I work, no I have never worked in new york or jersey,I dont really favor new york as a city,as I am from chicago, its my favorite town in the entire U.S.

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    Thank You Michelle. I always like civil and candid
    replies.OBVIOUSLY you are doing very well in Chi-town.
    I like Chicago too! GREAT!,not good,GREAT! steaks!
    Very pretty women. More friendly than N.Y. in general.
    The strip club scene from this customers P.O.V. ?
    BORRRRING!

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    Let's try to get back to the main topic here, which is dancing at GGR. The Kid is correct that dancers can earn very serious money at this club ... BUT ... it's no cakewalk. It is true that if a dancer is popular that guys will indeed take numbers and stand in line for private dances, since the club strictly limits both the number of dancers booked per shift (I think 12 on most nights, versus perhaps 300 customers ?) to assure a very high customer to dancer ratio. However, this means doing 60,70,80 private dances per night, every one of which involves grinding and most probably having your tits and ass grabbed.

    True this results in a 4 figure income, but nobody can say that the dancer didn't have to work extremely hard for it at GGR. As Juliet and Michele posted, the same earnings can be found at the very upscale Manhattan show clubs with a lot less contact and for a lot less effort on the part of the dancer. In addition, GGR has traditionally limited the length of booking for individual dancers, in an effort to provide "fresh meat" to the customers. Although I have heard that the new GGR management has made exceptions to this tradition, it is still not possible for a dancer to work every single week of the year at GGR (where it IS possible to work every single week at a very upscale Manhattan show club). This means that a typical dancer must average out one or two weeks earnings at GGR per month against the typical earnings in different clubs for the other two or three weeks between GGR bookings.

    From another viewpoint, GGR's club culture does not have the somewhat 'snobby' attitude found at some very upscale Manhattan show clubs, and also looks for somewhat different attributes in the girls they choose to book (not physical attributes - you'll find 10s at GGR also). GGR will also book girls who are '8's but who are extremely 'hot', something that most of the very upscale Manhattan show clubs will not do. IMHO, GGR is more fun but definitely more work as well !

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    Melonie - most of that last was pretty fair. GGR can be hard work and it can take a few days to recover. But personally low contact and 2 or 3 minute dances I consider a scam. I'm also pretty down on VIP prices or patrons going for extended sessions. Most clubs want a high tipout up front and/or want the dancer to commit to lots of days - that leads to burnout, pressure, hustling, and covering the weak days too. GGR's model ties the tip out to the dancer's success, and limits the dates so the dancer has freedom to live her life or work other clubs as she sees fit. By making schedules available the dancer more readily develops a following and guess what - fans come in when she's there!!! The tickets keep it orderly. It's not all 8+'s but the social atmosphere and personal interaction is higher than you would think . Several dancers have told me the place is their favorite. Its not fancy. But its not a hole either.

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    A new dancer just started at my favorite club in NJ. She also currently works at Scores and VIP in NY. All I know is, she said Scores is nowhere close to what it was at one time, and that alot of young customers are stopping in now ( I am assuming they view it as a tourist attraction). In fact she blames Howard Stern for the place being bad now! Me, not being to GGR, Scores or VIP, I cannot comment! I know a couple of dancers at GGR and they clean up!! So, to all of you, dance at places you are comfy with!

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    Three civil, intelligent and fact-based posts in a row!
    WOW! what arefreshing change from SCL.
    GGR is NOT for everybody. Not every customer likes
    going there and not every dancer would like working there.BTW-Working there is WORK!!!!
    The one night record for lap-dances is 101!Most
    ld's in a row w/ 1 dancer by 1 customer is 44!
    Most ld's by new dancer on her 1st night is 98 held
    by 3 different dancers. These figures come from the
    DJ and timekeeper.
    Bookings are set up in a variety of ways.
    The "out-of-towners" book 1 week straight per month
    or two 3 to 4 day bookings per month.
    Most "local" dancers book 1 or 2 days per week per
    month OR 1 or 2 weekends per month AND they
    usually pick up additional days filling in on short
    notice for dancers who cancel or call in sick. Some
    of the local girls work 8 and even 10 days per month.
    As to contact- It varies widely. All dancers keep their
    cookies covered and they are strictly OFF-LIMITS!
    Anything to the contrary is pure fantasy or total BS!
    MOST, not all , but most of the customers are
    mature and try to be "gentlemen". Many like myself
    are long-time regulars who have genuine relationships
    with a number of the dancers. Most of us try to be
    gentle. There IS unfortunately a "rough and grabby"
    element that the dancers have to deal with.Most make
    it clear that they do not like to be "manhandled" and
    insist on a modicum of respect; and they get it. If not
    theycan always tell the offender top get lost. there have been cases where certain dancers have refused to give ld's to certain customers. Most are wary of
    Asian and Middle-Eastern customers. Speaking generally,( I am sure there are exceptions) these guys come from countries and cultures that do not respect
    women and the dancers have repeatedly told me
    that they tend to be the "rough&grabby" type.
    The overwhelming majority of customers treat a ld
    like a limited GFE and I would argue that's how it should be.
    A girl does NOT have to be a "10" to work GGR.
    Piercings and tattoos are O.K. Most dancers
    are 7's and 8's. The MOST popular one right now is
    IMHO an 8. They get anywhere from 3 to 6 "nines"
    and "tens" per night. They even get a few
    less than attractive girls here and there. It's
    definitely personality and attitude that governs
    more than just looks at GGR.
    As far as income at upscale Man. clubs vs. GGR goes
    the consensus is that Scores is NOT what it used to
    be and every night's a gamble to make $1000 plus.
    Some girls are doing very well there and also at
    Penthouse. The latter is getting a lot of pos. WOM
    lately on earnings, mgt., tip-outs and net earnings
    FROM DANCERS; not from customers.The flip side is
    Scores had a lot of "unhappy campers" this summer
    and PEC took quite a while to get up to speed AND
    it is STILL rarely very crowded.
    The key distinction is COMPETITION! At Scores and
    other Man. clubs you are competing with anywhere
    from 20 to 50 other dancers for the same "big spenders"- NOT SO AT GGR!

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    Mark I think the site you are looking for is www.stripclubjunkie.com. This site is more for dancers. We keep it calm and cool here. Us girls can talk candidly about clubs and what goes on from a dancer point of view. You are more on a customer point of view. Yeah the money at GGR is great all of us in Jersey dancers now this already. Most dancers on this board know this already. Frankly I think that us as dancers need an unbiased view of GGR. Sometimes it's not all about the money but how you feel when you get home at night. So your view as a man is slightly skewed. You see GGR as one big gold mine and any girl in her right mind should work there. This may be true but I think that people should know what they are in for before they go there. Also I have seen you post on stripclublist. Where ever you go those other guys follow. Like I said before we girls keep it calm here. If you want to rant about GGR you should go to stripclubjunkie. I hope you don't find my post arguementative but I'm just trying to keep the peace here.

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    Ebony - sorry for the intrusion but when they pointed out this chat we saw quite a lot of misinformatiion and if you don't mind we can learn & share a bit to help everyone out. In my travels I've walked out of a lot of dives after seeing talent that could be working in better nearby clubs with better nets & no additional contact. You'd think dancers would share but too many don't use computers and others don't want more competition if they do have a good gig. The other chat is strip club list. Is SCJ still active?

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    EBONY-Thank you for sharing your views.With all due
    respect, some of what you say re: me and my views is off-base.I continually make it clear that GGR is NOT
    for every dancer; that it's NOT "easy" to work there;
    that NOT every girl who's ever tried working at GGR could handle it or made the "Big Bucks".
    For a dancer to be successful at GGR she has to be
    attractive (w/o necessarily being a "ten"), friendly
    AND most importantly she HAS to be able to handle
    ALL aspects of the contact.She has to be able to
    comfortably live with herself afterwards AND deal with
    an occasional "rough&grabby" lap-dance partner.
    The views I have shared are NOT limited to what I
    think or feel as a customer. Quite the contrary,I respectfully submit that I am very sympathetic and empathetic to dancers and appreciate their problems and concerns a lot MORE than the average customer. A lot of the info I post comes directly from the dancers themselves so any concerns regarding authenticity and/ or accuracy ought really be addressed to them.
    Lastly, I can't control what other people do or WHO
    posts WHAT and WHERE. I have no intention of leaving
    this bd. or site.

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    seems like everything has been covered with this club, but I'll add my two cents. For the uniniated: The GGR is in fact, as has been discussed, a dump. While this may prove a valid criticism for some, if not many, it has got to be one of its primary reasons for its success. In a world of corporate Spearmint Rhinos, Deja Vu's, etc, which are all very nice to bring your corporate event to and leave not feeling the slightest bit dirty, the "cheers" hometown bar aspect of this place can not be denied. Maybe 15 years ago there was nothing special about a bar like this, however in the current economy where the sleaze of times square in NYC has been replaced with disney and mega money, in this area there are very few SC's like this left, and in my experience, of the ones that ARE left, the GGR is a place that while may look and feel sleazy, you dont have to worry about being shot or mugged in the parking lot leaving the place at night, its in a small sleepy town in a totally safe neighborhood, another note worth mentioning for an out of town dancer looking to work there.

    From the customers perspective, this is not a strip club where you go to look at naked girls dancing around. This is not a strip club you go to if you are worried about your wife or girlfriend smelling cheap perfume on you. This is a place where the bottom line is, guys go there to get off. I would realistically bet that more than %80 of the mindset of the customers visiting this place have that and that alone in mind. Go ask any of the guys thhat STAND IN LINE before the club opens to get a number with their favorite dancer. More on that later... If you are a dancer that is not comfortable with getting guys off one way or another, actively or passively, this is not the place for you. This is certainly not the only club in the US like that and over the years I have been to clubs, the trend of more and more clubs like this are greater and greater, southern california is the perfect example of that.

    The dancers at the cluib range from young fresh and pretty to used and abused and each end of the spectrum has its audience there. As discussed, the dances at this place are via a ticket system, where you get a number for a dancer and as she is finished with a customer thhe next number is called, no different from waiting for service in a bakery or deli. It is **COMMON** to wait up to two hours for a dance even if you arrive when the joint opens. For a popular dancer, yes the earning potential is incredible, but the work is grueling. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned being able to make $40 a dance with no contact, and thats all well and fine, but the GGR is about quantity and in no other club that I have been to in the US or abroad is there a similar situation where a dancer can consistently do lapdances back to back to back for HOURS at a time with breaks only to get on stage. I dated a girl that would occasionally work at the GGR as well as several other clubs in the area and the level of exhaustion she would exhibit after a shift there was unparalleled to other clubs. There is a computer screen with pictures of all the girls and thir names, so all you have to do is look at the monitor and get a number and you can have customers lined up all night. Im suprised more dancers that work there havent commented on how hard you can potentially work there compared to other clubs. Sure, the earning potential is there but you EARN every penny of it.

    Another thing worth mentioning is the lap room. There are bar stools there, which are at bar height. Again, Ive never seen or heard of a club offering lap dances on bar stools, and its a very unique thing that may not seem so unique until you experience it. As the stool is about hip height, it is awkward for a dancer to grind and keep her feet on the ground, especially if the dancer is under 5'6" or so. As a result, most of the laps there are done with the dancers weight balanced stradling the customers lap, so the grind you get at this place is very unique in comparison to other clubs. Its a much more athletic affair for a dancer than I think at a club with couches or regular chairs. From the customers perspective, I always leave the club and notice my legs are sore after doing a bunch of laps at the club. The lap room is also situated about 5 feet form the bar, so the patrons of the place can look in and see everything in there. The stools are about 4 feet apart from another so you can easily look and see whats happening on the stools next to you. This is not a place where you are going to get obscene extras that you might find in a private room at another club just based upon the visibility of everyone, the customers, other dancers, guys at the bar, etc. But, where there is a will, there is a way and dancers have been not rescheduled as a result of activity that would SEEM to be impossible...

    All in all, its a very unique club for a variety of reasons, some good, some bad. Yeah, the place looks like a dump, but dont expect that to change, thats the flavour of the place and something that Im sure the regulars would not want changed. In a way, its kind of nice, sorta like 1970's time capsule or something. There are plenty of new and shiny clubs, hell, delia's den is right up the street and is probably one of the NICEST LOOKING clubs in the NYC area. People dont go to the GGR to sit ina comfotrable chair and smoke cigars, different clientelle. The laps are high contact, customers are allowed to touch the girls breasts. As this is *ALLOWED* by policy, its easy to understand how a certain caliber of dancers who may provide extras would find it easy to work there. Im not suggesting that every dancer that works in the place is there to provide extras, but given the level of contact that is demanded, it brings in a certain percentage that have no trouble doing so, or thats at least what logic would suggest, Im not a dancer, all I can do is speculate. Again, this is hardly unique, there are clubs across the land that have the same sociology and as such, this club is not for every dancer. I still have some friends that work there and a lot of girls view it as a tour of duty, but what comes with that club is also a crazy fan base of people and for a dancer that has worked there for a while, it is not uncommon to dance a night a month or whatever and see mostly regulars, all night long. Im not talking a casual fan base either. There are people that show up before the club opens and line up so that can get in and get a number with a dancer. GGR is a very interesting bit of sociology on all frontiers, much more than any club Ive ever seen. Well, maybe not much more but in a very unique way.

    Its an interesting club, but its all about the contact. Its also way fuking hard work both physically and often mentally to work there. This isnt for everyone for sure, but there are quite a lot of girls that seem to really enjoy working there. I dont got there very often, but when I do, its always fun, but it would really be a shame for the place to change, its very cool that there is a place like that left in NJ, with a corporate trend in the air, even though the club was bought out recently, its nice to notice that the new owners havent rolled in their company policy and totally changed the place. The other clubs they own, while all equally seccessful are not at all like the GGR. Kudos to them for seeing what was cool about the place and trying to maintain it.

    cheers

    J

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    Johnny - good points. To clarify a bit - the lap room was renovated, every dancer has a chair - never was stools in there. There are stools around the bar - some dancers give brief mini-dances when slow, usually early. It may be an either EIther thing, but can we agree the place is rustic without calling it a dump? The place is simple without glitz. The men's bathroom is well maintained with soap and a key for da terlet. That's not the case at MANY other places. There are lots of kids, especially late - its an (unhealthy) outlet for them - what can you do?. There is a significant business type trade early - so it looks different depending on the time. A few of the dancers are so popular they limit the number of dances - and no, its NOT because of what she does. This club does better than any other in the chain. Before auditioning anywhere an "educated dancer" would do well to read the strip club list chat in addition to this one , TUSCL & stripclubjunkie.

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    rustic or dump, its just symantics. The dancer who is accostomed to working in a place like a deja vu replete with tuxedo'd doorman and all that would likely findd the accomodations at GGR less than standard for her expectations, but on the other hand the dancer looking for a simple place to work far from the corporate world would likely find a good home at GGR, its all a matter of taste. Ive been in there since the renovation, the lap chairs are bar stools with backs, again, call them wajht you like, its a chair at hip height that spins like a bar stool which is unique for GGR opposed to the couch or regular table chair height you'll find in just about every other strip club on earth. Its a cool club with a lot of unique things about it but not for everyone.

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    Not to belabor the point but the chairs around the bar are at hip height. The lap chairs do spin. The height is close enough to normal not to be a problem. My feet touch the ground & I'm no giant. Do I prefer a "couch" - yes. Does it matter - no. The chairs are preferable to the "couch" at Delilah's. No one claims this is a pretentious upscale place in which to entertain business scoundrels. There are lots of dumps with skanks where you wouldn't want the dancer to touch you or use the bathroom (especially at the same time...)

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    JOHNNY- All in all you gave an excellent, very-detailed
    "warts and all" description of GGR. My only quibble
    is over your alternating between a very accurate fact-
    based description (of the ambience; of the lap-dancers
    and the "number system" including long waits for cer-
    tain dancers) and your assumptions/beliefs/conjectures
    about "getting off" and "extras". Does some of that
    occur?- I don't know. I've never seen it. The lap-area is
    open and the DJ and timekeeeper can see what
    is going on. I do know for a FACT that most of the
    dancers DO NOT engage in what you are implying.
    A lap dance at GGR with most dancers is little more
    than a mutual massage session that includes her breasts and derriere. One customer is well known for bringing in a fur( Sorry to the "animal rights" fanatics) massage mitten or glove which his lap-dance partners apparently enjoy very much. There is NO DOUBT that male and female genitalia are not supposed to be "handled". Some guys obviously have "control issues" and presumably "get off" judging by
    some of the stuff that gets left in the Men's room. At
    least they are showing a little courtesy to the dancers and not going home with stained pants. AFAIK and based on what I've seen they are NOT getting HJ's in the ld room.I've never touched or fingered the "cookies" and no GGR dancer has ever fondled my equipment.
    FINALLY-As I have repeatedly said. The GGR can
    certainly be an Eight or Nine hour "grind" in
    every sense of the word.Those girls are in good shape
    and have a lot of stamina. They deserve every penny
    they get, as you've said. They EARN it!

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    STUDENT-What is TUSCL? Thank you.

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    STUDENT-What is TUSCL? Thank you.
    Student would be referring to The Ultimate Strip Club List website, which is a customer review site. Click the link up on the purple bar at the top of the page.
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    I work at Go and some other clubs as well. There are some things that go on that I don't like, but you don't have to do anything you don't want to. Yes there is [glow=red,2,300]money[/glow] to be made there, any day of the week. I perfer the week-days myself. More businessmen and less kids..LOL
    I love the club for not letting female patrons in as well. I never understood that myself. It's a gentlemen's club, I started dancing to dance for men not women. This is the only club that I know of that doesn't allow women and I love it!!
    It is hard work there but the money is good, specially with the way money is now.

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    THANK YOU Dr.CATFISH! I'll check it out.
    HI BRIANNA! Great to see you on the bd.
    Folks I will vouch for her- She is a real GGR dancer
    and doesn't just play one on T.V. She's also
    very pretty and gives a great lap-dance w/o
    "extras"- She doesn't have to!

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    Hey Kid, thank you very much for the compliments!! That means alot to hear. It's nice to know someone feels that way. Hope to see you there sometime. Make sure you look me up and let me know who you are!!

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    PS you won't see me posting on the other board. To much drama there. If you post, you open yourself for bashing, and I can't handle that!

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    BRIANNA- You are quite right. THIS bd. gets very
    little, if any, bashing. See you at the GGR!

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