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    The most idealistic emotional feelings tend to lead people to feel that a diet of raw fruits, nuts and vegetables is the "lightest, purest and most beautiful," while unprejudiced reasoning leads us to the conclusion that these things must be our natural diet because they are the foods we are attracted to and enjoy in their raw, natural state. The most pure-hearted intuition and the most thoroughly rational science always lead to the same point.

    The greatest value of the raw food diet is its transformative value. To a great extent, when you take up the raw food diet, you become a new and different and better person. You don't just stay the same old person, only a little healthier. You become, to a great extent, a new being with new interests, a new philosophy and outlook on life, new goals and desires. You become a person who is more a part of the great life of Nature and less of the confused human world. You become less "of the World" and more of the Earth."

    Such transformations of course are impossible to imagine before you have experienced them. So the raw food diet doesn't so much "improve you" as "replace you" with somebody better! One of the most common statements of people who take up raw food diet in middle age or later, is that they now feel younger than they did even as teenagers. And yet at the same time they feel possesors of an ancient and ageless and eternal wisdom. The spirit is old and wise, and fresh and young at the same time.

    Raw foodists get new insight into how much better (than we commonly imagine) life can and should be, how Nature intended it to be. The common little miseries of life, such as frequent colds and flu, indigestions, chapping of hands and lips in cold weather, bad breath, sluggishness and depression, disappear, and become seen as not natural and normal parts of life at all, but indications of an unbalanced and unhealthy, chronically poisoned condition.

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    Arnold Ehret wrote, once you have taken a few steps on the road back to Paradise Health, you see that modern man is not at all a highly intelligent and advanced creature, but a degenerated shadow of what he ought to be.

    I have read in farmers' magazines, that if you want your hogs to fatten up quickly, feed them boiled potatoes, not raw; that if you want your cattle to gain weight, cook their grain; don't feed it to them raw. The huge American overweight problem is probably due to the unnatural eating of cooked foods, rather than any specific types of "fattening" foods.

    Why does raw food provide such better nourishment, such superior vitalizing and health-giving qualities, than cooked food? Well, we can look at it from two angles, the material and the immaterial. On the one hand cooking destroys the natural chemical composition of the food. The vitamins are altered and destroyed, the proteins are scrambled, the enzymes are torn to pieces. Even simple mixtures of just a few inorganic elements can often be totally changed in character through cooking over a Bunsen burner. What then of foodstuffs, composed of thousands of the most complex organic chemicals poised in fragile balance?

    Taking it from the inmaterial angle, the great harm of cooking is that it destroys or drives off the life-force in the food. Just look at how strong and alive a fresh raw carrot looks, and compare that to the limp and decaying appearance of a cooked carrot. Some people are able to dowse the life-force in foods via a pendulum. The wider the circle the pendulum swings in, the greater the life-force. They find that the pendulum indicates much greater life-force in raw foods, as our common sense would expect.

    But the most convincing test is that of your own experience. You make a comparison between a meal of raw vegetables, and a meal of the same types of vegetables cooked. The raw vegetables leave you filling light, fresh and alert, whereas the same vegetables cooked will make you feel lethargic and sluggish for hours after a big meal, such as Thanksgiving dinner. But meals of raw food don't produce such lethargy and dullness. Vegetarians don't believe in killing for food, but too often they kill their food by cooking it!

    Raw food diet is a sort of rational and healthy austerity. It is the sort of discipline that makes you more free. For example, a skilled draftsman and painter is free to make pictures that look like anything he or she desires to create. The unskilled person is free only to fool around and make childish-looking pictures. The raw food diet is a healthy discipline that frees you to be more creative, work harder and think more clearly. It also makes you more free to enjoy the beauties and wonders of the natural world.

    There is a popular saying, "You are what you eat." Well, this is a partial truth. There are many, many factors that go into making up just what and who you are. Food is one of them, and one of no small importance. Diet has much to do with the health of the body and much to do with the basic attitude of the mind, whether it is aspiring, searching for truth and growth, or just wants to stay stuck in the same old rut.

    Just something to ponder, I'm not trying to start anymore arguemnts, that's why i deleted my old posts

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    Try to sprout a seed after putting it in the microwave (even for 5 seconds) and then try to sprout a seed after leaving it sun.

    Interesting litlle experiment.

    You will see that the microweave kills all life, however, the sun does not.

    Better yet, put your cat in the microwave ( for just 2 seconds !) then put him outside in the sun for 2 seconds.

    You will soon come to realize that the microwave takes life, and the sun gives life.

    But, what do I know, I'm just a farting lunitic !

    You seem to know it all, I think i'm going to take your advise on this one !

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    Did you ever hear of a thing called volume? Put your cat next to the speaker on your radio, which is also receiving electromagnetic radiation (as you are this second) and turn the volume up to 10,000 decibels. It will be dead too. Did you ever get a sunburn? That was your skin dying from over exposure to sunlight.
    Personally I do not believe in unnecessarily imprisoning animals, so I have no house pets.

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    That's an interesting point, i'll have to look into that !

    Thanks !

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    To use your own example (with no harm to any living thing) put a gallon of water (same mass as am 8lb cat of water) in the microwave and observe the temperature change. In 2 seconds the temperature change of the pseudocat will be a tiny fraction of 1 degree. A cat would observe no ill effects for up to 20-30 seconds. In my microwave it takes a minute and a half to heat a 12 oz cup of coffee about 100 degrees. So it should take more than 10 times as long or 900 seconds to heat a gallon 100 degrees or 1 degree every 9 seconds. A cold can raise your temperature 4 degrees with no permanent effects and last for days.
    The seed example is another faulty agruement because you turned up the volume by reducing its size to a tiny fraction of an ounce, same principle as why it takes longer to heat 2 cups of water than it does to heat one.

    Also You go half way to the sun with a big enough tank of oxygen. The raduiation will be 4 times as intense as it is outside the atmosphere. You will die to if not shielded from the radiation.

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    Microwave cooking is one of the most important causes of ill health. It is certainly one of the most ignored.

    There was a lawsuit in 1991 in Oklahoma. A woman named Norma Levitt had hip surgery, but was killed by a simple blood transfusion when a nurse "warmed the blood for the transfusion in a microwave oven!"

    Logic suggests that if heating is all there is to microwave cooking, then it doesn't matter how something is heated. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed, but not in microwave ovens. Does it not therefore follow that microwaving cooking does something quite different?

    A little evidence of the harm caused by microwaving cooking was given by the University of Minnesota in a radio announcement:

    "Microwaves ... are not recommended for heating a baby's bottle. The bottle may seem cool to the touch, but the liquid inside may become extremely hot and could burn the baby's mouth and throat... Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas, there may be a loss of some vitamins. In expressed breast milk, some protective properties may be destroyed.... Warming a bottle by holding it under tap water or by setting it in a bowl of warm water, then testing it on your wrist before feeding, may take a few minutes longer, but it is much safer".
    There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades - and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to increase.

    Two researchers, Blanc and Hertel, confirmed that microwave cooking significantly changes food nutrients. Hertel previously worked as a food scientist for several years with one of the major Swiss food companies. He was fired from his job for questioning procedures in processing food because they denatured it. He got together with Blanc of the Swiss Federal Institute of Biochemistry and the University Institute for Biochemistry.

    They studied the effect that microwaved food had on eight individuals, by taking blood samples immediately after eating. They found that after eating microwaved food, haemoglobin levels decreased. "These results show anaemic tendencies. The situation became even more pronounced during the second month of the study".

    Who knows what results they would have found if they had studied people who ate microwaved food for a year or more?

    The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your blood and immune system.

    In addition, they found that the number of leucocytes increases after eating microwaved food - something which haematologists take very seriously, because this is often a sign of highly harmful effects, such as poisoning.

    Also, after eating microwaved food, cholesterol levels increased. Hertel said "Common scientific belief states that cholesterol values usually alter slowly over longer periods of time. In this study, the markers increased rapidly after the consumption of the microwaved vegetables." He believes his study tends to confirm new scientific data that suggest cholesterol may rapidly increase in the blood secondary to acute stress. "Also," he added, "blood cholesterol levels are less influenced by cholesterol content of food than by stress factors. Such stress-causing factors can apparently consist of foods which contain virtually no cholesterol - the microwaved vegetables."

    The results were published in "Search for Health" in the Spring of 1992. How was this research greeted? A powerful trade organisation, the Swiss Association of Dealers for Electroapparatuses for Households and Industry somehow made the President of the Court of Seftigen issue a `gag order'. Hertel and Blanc were told that if they published their findings they would face hefty fines or up to one year in prison. In response to this, Blanc recanted his findings. Hertel, on the other hand, went on a lecture tour and demanded a jury trial.

    FINALLY, in 1998 the Court `Gag Order' was removed. In a judgment delivered at Strasbourg on 25 August 1998 in the case of Hertel v. Switzerland, the European Court of Human Rights held that there had been a violation of Hertel's rights in the 1993 decision. The Court decided that the `gag order' prohibiting him form declaring that microwaved food is dangerous to health was contrary to the right to freedom of expression. In addition, Switzerland was sentenced to pay compensation of F40,000.

    In Summary: Blanc and Hertel found that eating microwaved food:

    Increases cholesterol
    Increases white blood cell numbers
    Decreases red blood cell numbers
    Causes production of radiolytic compounds (compounds unknown in nature)

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    RUSSIANS BAN MICROWAVE OVENS

    After the World War II, the Russians also experimented with microwave ovens. From 1957 up to recently, their research has been carried out mainly at the Institute of Radio Technology at Klinsk, Byelorussia. According to US researcher William Kopp, who gathered much of the results of Russian and German research - and was apparently prosecuted for doing so (J. Nat. Sci, 1998; 1:42-3) - the following effects were observed by Russian forensic teams:

    1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
    * d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
    * Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
    * Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
    * Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
    2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
    3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
    4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
    5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
    6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
    7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
    8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
    9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
    * A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
    * Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
    * Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
    * Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

    As a result microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1976; the ban was lifted after Perestroika.


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    Standing in front of a microwave is also highly damaging to your health. Perhaps you have already felt this intuitively? We know that cells explode in the microwave - just fry an egg in your microwave. We are made up of trillions of cells. So work out how many are getting damaged if you stand in front of your microwave for 5-10 minutes.

    In the past I had been told that it was important for people to stop eating microwaved food, but I did not pay too much attention to this because I had been microwave cooking for years. I never thought much about it but I suppose that I figured that if something was so bad for us, then there wouldn't be so many people using it. Little did I know.

    When I first began seeing clients for sessions of kinesiology, I did not worry too much about telling them to give up eating microwaved food. However, I kept a record of all of the corrections that were needed for each client when they came in. Now, once a correction is made, it is to be hoped that the correction will stay in place for a long time to come, hopefully months if not years. People often ask me "How long will it last?" May answer to them is "That depends on your lifestyle".

    Most of my clients came back to see me after about two weeks. In the early days I found that many who came back were not much better. I found that they were again `out of balance'. That is, their electrical circuits were not working correctly (which is common for many people). It was therefore not surprising that they were not much better, because the body does not begin to fully fix itself until the electrical circuits are in balance.

    The question was, why did their electrical circuits go out of balance? The answer had to be something that was highly stressful, to effect the body in such a short space of time. Once that answer was remedied, the client would begin to get better. Using muscle testing, I went through the process of testing if the cause was electrical, chemical/nutritional, emotional or structural. Again and again the same answer would come up - electrical. When I then went through a range of possible electrical causes, the same answer again came up again and again - the person had eaten microwaved food! Incidentally, this answer never came up when a person had NOT eaten microwaved food.

    I began to tell all of my clients on the first visit that under NO circumstances were they ever to do microwaved cooking again. I gave this a higher priority than any of things that are normally considered as health risks, such as cigarettes or alcohol. Immediately I began to get a marked improvement in the results I was getting. Long term problems such as headaches, back aches and emotional instability went away within a few weeks.

    Other kinesiologists can confirm these results. David Bridgman, who has years of experience as a kinesiologist, said "Of all the people I test for allergies, 99.9% so far show severe sensitivity to any microwaved food".

    I experienced the effect of eating microwaved food for myself one time. I had been doing quite a lot of kinesiology and feeling on top of the world when for no apparent reason I began to feel rather `grey' and rather low. I realised that I needed a balance from a kinesiologist. Sure enough, I was out of balance. When the kinesiologist used muscle testing to see why my body had gone out of balance, the answer came up ... microwaved food! The trouble was, I couldn't remember eating any. Until I remembered a particular vegetarian restaurant I had been to. When I went back to the restaurant and asked them if they microwaved their food, they told me that they did.

    So be warned! Many restaurants use microwaved cooking, even `health' restaurants. Ask if the "steamed vegetables" are in fact steamed - or are they microwaved? I have sent meals back when they have not been what they were described on the menu, much to the surprise of the restaurant owners.


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    MICROWAVED PLASTIC WRAP HAS 10,000,000 TIMES FDA LIMITS OF CARCINOGENS!

    From: [email protected]

    Sent to me by a reader: Hello Folks. Hopefully all of you are already well enough informed so as to avoid the use of a microwave oven due to the many detrimental effects consuming microwaved food has upon our health, but "just in case", here is some interesting info sent to me by Ron Scanlon -- many thanks, Ron! Cheers, Doug

    University of California, Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Boulevard, Sacramento, California 95817

    As a seventh grade student, Claire Nelson learned that di(ethylhexyl)adepate (DEHA), considered a carcinogen, is found in plastic wrap. She also learned that the FDA had never studied the effect of microwave cooking on plastic-wrapped food. Three years later, with encouragement from her high school science teacher, Claire set out to test what the FDA had not.

    Although she had an idea for studying the effect of microwave radiation on plastic wrapped food, she did not have the equipment. Eventually, Dr. Jon Wilkes at the National Center for Toxicological Research agreed to help her. The research center, which is affiliated with the FDA, let her use its facilities to perform her experiments, which involved microwaving plastic wrap in virgin olive oil.

    Claire tested four different plastic wraps and "found not just the carcinogens but also xenoestrogen was migrating [into the oil]...." Xenoestrogens are linked to low sperm counts in men and to breast cancer in women. Throughout her junior and senior years, Claire made a couple of trips each week to the research center, which was 25 miles from her home, to work on her experiment. An article in Options reported "her analysis found that DEHA was migrating into the oil at between 200 parts and 500 parts per million. The FDA standard is 0.05 parts per billion."

    Her summarized results have been published in science journals. Claire Nelson received the American Chemical Society's top science prize for students during her junior year and fourth place at the International Science and Engineering Fair (Fort Worth,Texas) as a senior. "Carcinogens --At 10,000,000 Times FDA Limits"

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    http://www.detailshere.com/microwavemadness.htm
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    http://www.beyondhealth.com/default.asp

    have remarkably similar wording of things as if you copied and pasted rather than used your mind. They ae also entirely willing to sell you over priced vitamins you will piss away a few hours later.

    Did you notice no one ever said the lady won her lawsuit? I could sue you for anything I wanted to. Of course I would lose, but I could still sue. Please document one of these claims with a life link to the original publication in a scientific journal subject to peer review. I could quote "proof" the same way that the world was flat, or bigfoot existed, or that Martians had REALLY taken over the earth in 1932!!!

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    PS, I posted my picture in the gallery, so you could put a face with the name. It's on page 2 and underneath say's "here's my pic"

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    I used to feed my pomeranian the BARF diet. (bones and raw food) She loved it! But it's a big pain in the ass plus she didn't like to eat her veggies. Needless to say, she gets regular doggy food now.


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    Saph, they actually make pre packaged BARF now. Crazy, huh? :-)

    I actually agree with most of what Ryan's saying. Think about it, read about it, don't reject the message with the messenger.

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    Sapphire, watch your dog or RYAN will want to put it in a microwave. He likes destroying things.

    PS Ryan, while I was driving home tonight there was a nice gentleman on the radio selling herbal teas. He said sunlight would destroy tea. So much for the natural approach. I guess that leaves only mushrooms grown in caves as food.
    3 lbs of raw mushrooms a day. Boy are you gonna have gas.
    PPS. Do you know what they grow mushrooms in? I hope you wash them well cause you can't use heat to kill the bacteria.

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    Well I don't drink tea or eat mushrooms, but thanks for looking out for me.
    I'm glad I am in your thoughts throughout the day !
    I must have made a big impact !

    PEACE

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    I wish I could eat more raw foods...
    We all imagine ourselves the agents of our destiny, capable of determining our own fate. But have we truly any choice in when we rise, or when we fall, or does a force larger than ourselves bid us our direction. Is it evolution that takes us by the hand, does Science point our way, or is it God who intervenes keeping us safe.

    So much struggle for meaning, for purpose. And in the end, we find it only in each other. Our shared experience of the fantastic. And the mundane. The simple human need to find a kindred, to connect. And to know in our hearts... that we are not alone.
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    I wish I could eat more mushrooms... [trip]


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    Pryce, you can :-)



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    no $ + no time = no raw food...i know that's more of an excuse...I'll try harder after this semester is over.
    We all imagine ourselves the agents of our destiny, capable of determining our own fate. But have we truly any choice in when we rise, or when we fall, or does a force larger than ourselves bid us our direction. Is it evolution that takes us by the hand, does Science point our way, or is it God who intervenes keeping us safe.

    So much struggle for meaning, for purpose. And in the end, we find it only in each other. Our shared experience of the fantastic. And the mundane. The simple human need to find a kindred, to connect. And to know in our hearts... that we are not alone.
    Heroes

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    you could do more of the basics. Pears, apples, oranges, bananas, salads, avocados, tomatoes, ect.

    There's nothing faster than a banana....

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    Hi Ryan

    What's your opinion on Ayurveda? I mean according to it certain constitutional types of people should avoid raw food, and no single type is recommended raw food only. I actually tried raw only a few years ago and I felt like crap until I stopped it. I think you can't just jump into it, and it's by far not for everyone, as it really is a lifestyle, and requires a lot of previous research and education. A lot needs to be taken into consideration.

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    For the raw fod diet, i started this a few years ago with a roomate, although i did not stick with it completely i still put carrots apples etc. in my blender and make a smoothie. usually i do not just add fruits alone, i will mix vegetables with some fruits because the fruits add a flavour that makes the taste more inviting. You really need a good book that tells what to mix and what not.
    Talk about losing weight.....Gee if you drink enough of these you may very well lose weight, they fill you up, high in nutrition (depending on how you make it, many varieties) and easy on the body. At first i just felt a little hungry, so i ate food! You can't live on these alone.
    But i drank more of my home made smoothies, and saw a great increase in my energy level!

    My problem was making them, damn time consuming. But i could make a smaller version now and again.

    They are good for you, but wash every food item first. And also if some people don't feel good after a smoothie with fruits there are a small percentage who are fruitcose intolerant, and adding different types of fruits to the body all at once may be an overload to the system.



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    Blu -

    Avurveda is a belief and it can be incorporated into the raw-food diet.
    To learn more read "Conscious Eating" By Dr. Gabriel Cousens. He is a Diplomat of Avurvedic, and a long-time raw-foodist. He describes in his book how to identify your avurvedic constitution or "dosha" and use the proper raw foods to achieve maxium health.

    You can check out his website Treeoflife.nu for more info.

    On thing on avurveda - yes it is a practice, but not necessarily a perfect outline for mankind's proper diet. Just because avurveda says this or that dosen't make it law. In every system of health maintenance there is always some controversy. Remember however, that while the controversies my rage on and on, you, as an individual, can decide what works best for you. People become confused when they hear opposing viewpoints; once says black, the other says white, yet a third advocate says gray. My advice is to pass all information (including mine) through the filter of your own intelligence and reach your own conclusions.

    The reason you may have felt "like crap" may be that your body was going through a cleansing phase. When you put the proper nutrition into your body, it starts to "clean house" letting go of all the old crap. If your body is very toxic, some of these toxins may re-circulate into the bloodstream causing discomfort. I too felt less than optimal when I started this path, but it has paid off 100-fold.


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    Pryce, that's what I thought until I tried it. Now I figure I'm saving time - it's so much faster to eat an apple than to go through the drive through. I just buy fruits and veggies once a week or so, and keep some with me most of the time.

    I do cook squash - stick it in the oven for half an hour or so and it's yummy, and filling. :-)

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    Thanks for answering, Ryan! Yeah, what you say makes sense.

    Smoothies - yum! I forgot about those. Indeed easier than chowing raw veggies and fruit. Gotta get a blender...

    Lena, I love cooked squash, too. I mix it with honey, soy milk and rice (or millet). Pumpkin, too. I get in a can, mix with grated apple and carrot, add soy milk or soy vanilla yogurt, heat the whole thing up, and it's the best dessert ever.

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    Invest in a blender and a good juicer. Use them often. Eat organically grown produce. Your body will thank you.

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    I used to have a problem with all the fruits and veggies I bought going bad before they were eaten. It's an incredible time saver if you wash and prepare fresh produce right when you get home from the store. You know, wash those grapes, cut up some cantalope (sp) those zip loc disposable containers are really cool for this purpose. I find that I'm much more likely to eat them when they're "ready to go"


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    I used to have that problem too, fruit going bad, now all I eat is fruit and vegrtables, so I keep an eye on stuff, if it is on it's way out i will use it immediatly. For example, today I had an overabundance of avocados, so I made some guackamole, and ate it wil some flax crackers I made in the food dehydrator (does not kill enzymes because only set at 95 degrees) Let me say it was delicious. Raw food can be fun !

    I've been making this drink in the juicer that is like homemade V8. I juice tomatoes, carrots, celery, and a little bit of garlic. It's good !

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