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    I was wondering if anyone knows that anything that is ephedra based is no longer being produced.I went into two vitamin chains and they said since june,no companies are making products with ephedra in them,there were too many law suits and its just too expensive to do I was told and insurers wont cover them anymore.Too bad as I have been taking them on and off for 10 years,not for fat loss but for energy to get through the day,whats left on the shelves are it,once its gone its gone,I had heard about this a year ago and thought some companies would still make them,guess not.

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    yes they still make them they just don't sell them in the nutrition stores anymore. you still can usually find them in single packets at gas stations like yellow jackets or stackers and you can always orders them off the internet. try Trim Spa or Stacker 2!

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    I have found ephedra at Tropical Smoothie (don't know if this is in your area) in the Fat Buster smoothie. I have been an ephedra junkie too. I recently quit along with all caffeine because of mood swings and head aches.

    I also have Ultra Beta Trim by EAS. It has Ma Huang Stem extract which is ephedrine alkaloids. I don't know the exact difference between that and ephedra, but it definitely gave me some energy. I got these about 3 months ago so I don't know if they have been pulled. Since I quit I can give them to you if you ever come back to CH2!

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    Kobi you are such a sweet girl,I was thinking of maybe coming back in december,well see Iam looking for a new travel partner,I know they still have them in the stores but I was told once they are gone thats it and I know for sure the stackers are done,they were the second company to go,maybe its a good thing because they do cause problems but if I start to work frequently again I know I will need them.

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    you can also order them on the net in Europe.
    I live in Belgium and I get them in Holland!
    Go to www.musclemag.com or WWWW.bodybuilding.com , they have a sell section and I'm sure you could some there.
    Search ephedra or ephedrin or ma-huang on WWW.GOOGLE.COM and you'll find tons of commercial sites!
    Everything that is used by Bodybuilders will work because they are so anxious of staying cut .....

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    They are still out there Michelle, just under another one of the marketing world words, and on the shelf. Yep Guam and the like sell them over the web, the real thing. As well as drugs we should only have from a doc. with a checkup. Crazy......

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    Ephedra was not banned by the fda,they stopped making them because no one will insure them any more after the many class action suits,Iam sure they will probably still produce them in other countries but Iam not sure I would want to buy there because of lack of involvment on the fda in those parts of the world,who knows what they might put in them.

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    wow... i didn't know that... when i was looking for stackers at cvs and walgreens they said they don't sell them anymore... i guess this is why...
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    not just lawsuits but that is one of the main ingrediants used to make meth. thats why they have all those signs saying you can only buy two boxes of diet or cold meds. i think that is more of the reason than lawsuits.
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    All I have to say is if you have heart problems please don't use ephedra products.

    There is another thread titled "j" in Body Business dated Jan 08, 2003 which is about metabolife, stackers etc. I apologize that I deleted my comment about what happened to my friend. I guess I felt a little uncomfortable having all those intimate details splashed all over a public forum.

    Basically, a coworker went into cardiac arrest on stage on her 23rd birthday as a result of using ephedra based products. She is a very different person now, not the same girl.


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    Velvet,I think the stuff used in meth is sudephrine,its a totally different thing.

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    The big watcher is the drug that is still highly available. Pseudophedrine. That is NOT the same as what they put in fat burner products, but the same reaction inside the body, Racing heart, palpitations, rise in blood pressure, and some people cardiac arrest. Seems harmless enough, it's in alot of cold medicines! It's used as a decongestant. Hits the body the same way as any SPEED.

    Alot of brand name drugs are pulled now, but we have others that do the same thing to our bodies. I stay away from cold medicines, and nasal decongestants. They can be dangerous for someone like me with Tachycardia.

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    that might be one but ephedria is right up there on the meth list, they use everything in that bad stuff.
    As quoted by Luckyone:
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    Methodus saved my life!

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    Ephedra is just a slightly altered chemical chain of meth, it wasn't that long ago when they used actual meth in diet pills. Personally for me, I have heart problems and I can't take anything with ephedra and I usually don't take diet pills (I just don't want to risk it) but I've been taking Hydroxycut for a while now and it seems to work fine with my body and I lost some weight.

    A friend of mine took some diet pills for a while and she said when she went off them, chocolate and french fries just didn't taste good to her anymore! Weird!

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    I not only still use Matablolife with Ephedra which I order straight from the company off the internet but I also buy a drink called, "Thermo Hydroxandrine". It has Ephedra and caffeine in it. I make no apoligies. I know all thre risks but its my body my choice. I don't appreciate the government getting involved. I listen to my body and I know what I can handle.

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    Never heard of meth being in diet pills,as meth is not meth its a product derived from around 10 different ingridients,liquid drano being on e of them yuck,I think what pamella was talking about is the stuff used in meth,not ephedrine,they are quite different.

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    I'm with you candice!!
    In a lot of bodybuilding books they explain why and how it is safe to use ephedra, in the right dosage, and if you do not have any health condition.
    I think that if you have a tiny amount of common sense there is no risk!!
    See: "BODYFITNESS FOR WOMEN"
    I just ordered a new bottle today in Holland because it is widely sold overthere!

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    Yes Michele i was refering to actually all the drugs involved with 'burning fat' without any work. And weight lose drugs, cold medicines and anything else that pertains to an "upper" even caffeine. Seems harmless enough to lots. But there are people of all ages out here in the world who don't even know they have a heart problem. Even some who don't will get symptoms that have them running to the ER. These drugs with many labels/names all do the same thing to ones body.

    Remember when you crammed for finals in college ? Drank 5 cans of Mountain Dew ? Gosh, i do. Using it to stay awake, the caffeine content was so high. maybe still is. But we have graduated to higher drugs for 'the pick me up.'

    Alot are legal, until someone dies, or has major complications and sues. These are very powerful over the counter drugs, that some abuse to motivate/stay awake, lose weight, clean house.

    I just care about the safety about others who don't know what they put in their body. Yes, it's your choice. But to hear one say, "if i only knew how dangerous it was," sucks...

    Be careful,
    Cardiac arrest is too common with some of these products. They are still around, if not on our shelves as one name brand goes, another can be just as potent. And very do-able,and bought over seas.

    I just had to voice my opinion, caffeine seems so harmless, but lots can't have any. Thats a wake up call,when we have much more potent drugs being sold.

    Education is the key, but we just don't know how we will react to them. (Like any drug.)

    For those who use them, you already know. This was meant more for the ones who should read about the drugs first. SANDRINE you make a good point, but how many of us think we may be in good health, and not know we may not be. I don't think too many people get a stress test before using. Some people even think wow! If this little bit does this much, more may be even better. BE CAREFUL ALL.

    Good luck,
    Pamela

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    Never heard of meth being in diet pills,as meth is not meth its a product derived from around 10 different ingridients,liquid drano being on e of them yuck,I think what pamella was talking about is the stuff used in meth,not ephedrine,they are quite different.
    i meant that those pills are/were very popular as an INGREDIANT used to make meth.
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    Diet pills are dangerous for MANY people! Some develop disorders years after they begin taking them. I know a girl who wrecked her kidneys from dehydration. I could go into cardio arrest....I have a very common disorder called hypothyroidism. Ephedra based stuff IS speed for all intents and purposes.

    Sometimes it can even lead to neurological tremors, where your body shakes involuntarily because you fried yourself. Sleep deprivation sounds like no fun at all to me. I was a tweeker for years. It will catch up with you. The effects are almost identical.

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    I used to be addicted to ephedra in high school, worst years of my life. I had the worst mood swings if i didnt take them. I feel like throwing up just thinking about them. I finally stopped with i bent down to get some on a low shelf at wal mart, and my heart started fluttering and i fainted. Some lady helped me up and i left the store and havent taken them since. I think it wa sign or somthing.

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