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    Anyone else had a breast augmentation? What did you get? How long before you were dancing again? What was the customer reaction? How did it affect your dancing and income?

    I had a BA in January, 2002: 450cc McGhan smooth, round, unders, transax incision. Went from a 34-Barely-B to a 34-DD or 36-D, depending on the bra manufacturer.

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    i went to a full d after barely a b. lots of guys said no dont do it but for everyone of those i had 10 to replace them simpley they love the big titties!!! i too went under 480 cc's nipple incision, you cant even tell most guys think mine are real!!!
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    Im going to soon, i think. well 99.9% sure....did you guys happen to see that thing on MTV about plastic surgery? there were two girls on there that got BA and one was totally freaking out after she came out from the anethesia...I know everyone reacts differently, but she was really upset! how did you girls feel when you woke up? in a lot of pain? just sleepy? I can't wait to get boobies. im so excited., any regrets or warnings or advice to us pre-BA girls? thanks

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    hi Ladies!!
    well I have had about 4 total procedures. I started out a B cup naturally and now I'm a 32JJ cup. 2000CC yes the bigger breasts do draw allot of interests and tips too!...a great conversational piece i might ad.

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    i was fine when i came out of antestisa, just couldnt breath very well (cuz i smoke) you are supposed to stop 2 weeks before and i didnt. i felt great high as hell and didnt think the pain would be shit.. boy was i wrong when it wore off!!
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    While I'm not planning on having a BA anytime soon, I helped my ex-fiance get hers, so I do know a lot on the subject.

    The "True Life" shows on MTV are a joke. The shows on cosmetic surgery and breast augmentation were 90% anti-surgery propaganda. They never give any hard facts, like giving the statistics of how many people get these surgeries, and how many have complications. The people they pick are usually shallow morons who will offer plenty of drama for them to edit a show out of. Bottom line, don't let anything off of MTV influence you, do some research, the internet has tons of sites that are both for and against BA that will let you make an educated decision. The best advice I can give is to do a lot research.

    Make sure you call your local board of health and find out if the surgeon you are planning on going to has any malpractice suits or complaints against him. A few suits from patients against a doctor with a long standing (5 years or more) practice is not uncommon, especially in a field like cosmetic surgery, but complaints from other doctors should be red flags. Ask your surgeon about any suits, if he gets defensive or refuses to talk about it, forget about him. The surgeon my ex went with had a couple of suits against him, but all were dismissed, as they were patients that were unsatisfied with the work he had done, yet he had done exactly what they had asked (and none of them were BAs). He was more then willing to talk about them and explain what had happened in each case.

    Ask the girls in the clubs you work at and visit to who they went to. My ex had a friend who was dancer that had gone to this particular surgeon, so she got to take at the surgeons work first hand. If you don't know anyone, check the internet, most established surgeons have websites with Before & After photos, and sometimes you can contact former patients. Word of mouth and a first hand look is the best recommendation you can get.

    As far as the procedure, my ex went with transax incision (armpit) versus the nipple or belly button. Complications can arise through the belly button (this surgeon wouldn't even do it) and through the nipple you could lose sensitivity. If you’re worried about a scar, it can easily be covered with body makeup just like any other blemish, and it's going to be in the armpit, the last place any man is looking on a topless woman. You'll also have to pick if the implant is over, or under the muscle. Under usually makes the implant look as if it is "riding high" but gives proper slope to the top of the breast. Over gives the very "round" look, giving proper shape to the bottom. The surgeon the ex went with does a "sub-muscular" procedure where it is half under, and half "sticking out" below the muscle, which gives you the best of both worlds, a natural slope to the top of the breast, and the nice round shape to the bottom. The only way you could tell she had an implant was if she was upside-down, so I guess if you do a lot of pole work it might be a problem, but other then that they looked natural, everyone my ex met post-op could never tell.

    Coming out of surgery my ex was in a lot of pain & very sleepy, she doesn't even remember the ride home. I imagine this is how 90% of women react, sure, you're disoriented at first, but you are too lethargic to do anything.

    Make sure you have someone to take care of you, it is going to hurt just to sit up, let alone get up and move around. Whoever takes care of you is going to have to wake you up every 4 hours and give you your meds, so make they're responsible. Also, eat something before you take your pills, or you WILL get sick, Ritz Crackers, chicken broth, and ginger ale is what the ex lived on for 3 days. Ice packs will also help with the pain & swelling. Frozen veggies work great.

    The implant usually has to drop into a "pocket" This can take anywhere from 3 weeks to two months, and as time goes on, the breasts will look progressively better. I’m assuming a dancer could get back to work as soon as the implant settles, and there is no more pain.

    As for reactions from men and increase in pay... I can’t help out too much. I have been told there is a noticeable increase in pay, whether this is from bigger breasts or more confidence, who knows, but breasts never hurt. Any man who is "anti-implant" is really only thinking of bad surgeries where it is very obvious that the breasts are not natural, 90% of the time, with a good surgery, a man could never tell a woman had a procedure.

    I hope this answered your questions, sorry if it was long winded.
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    Oh, poo on the long windedness! It was very good advice. Good advice about the lawsuit thing too. I used to be a medical malpractice paralegal and many cases I worked on involved various cosmetic surgery mistakes. Cosmetic surgery is notorious for lousy medical practitioners. These days it's much easier to research a surgeon's legal history. Most counties have websites where you can look up every lawsuit they've ever been involved in in that county, who was involved, all the papers filed by both sides in the suit, whether or not the case was settled, or who won and for how much, etc. Keep in mind that most medical cases are settled with the defendant doctor's insurance company paying out some amount of money rather then going to court. This is mostly because the costs of a medical suit are enormous and the insurance company would rather pay out something and end it then go all the way to trial... doesn't matter if the doctor is totally innocent or not. Then the insurance carrier gets to raise the doctor's insurance premiums (isn't that handy? yeeeesh).

    Definitely do a lot of research on the surgeon of choice and eductate yourself on the various procedures. Study your surgeon during your consultation visit. If he/she encourages the surgery or badmouths other surgeons, RUN! We've all seen more then our share of bad boob jobs which means there's a lot of surgeons out there that are only concerned with making money doing only what they were asked to do... "gimme bigger boobs." A surgeon that doesn't care about the quality of their work is one to stay clear of. A good cosmetic surgeon will want to be sure your desire for the surgery is for your own peace of mind (not because you think your boyfriend won't cheat on you if your tits were bigger) and you have thought about it extensively. They'll want to educate you on the various procedures, recommend which one they think would work best for you and explain why. The best cosmetic surgeons are really artists concerned with the perfection of the human form and will want the best results as much as you do.

    Eventually i'd like to get implants myself. There's only one thing that bothers me about that... years ago I had this one particular boob job case where the patient was anesthesized to death in the recovery room. She could have been saved if the anesthetist admitted at the time of making the mistake of accidentally overdosing the patient with the anesthesia medication. With all the hidious cases i dealt with through the years, this was the one that really impacted me for a lot of reasons... most of which i'm not allowed to talk about... grrrr. But it brings me to another point... not all anesthesiologists are medical doctors. Many are what they call "nurse anesthetists" which are registered nurses who have simply taken a course in anesthesia. FRIGHTENING. What's really scary is that it isn't required that you are told whether your anesthetist is a medical doctor or a specially certified nurse, and nobody is going to tell you if you don't ask. Now, an anesthesiologist's job is to put you in that limbo state between life and death and be able to bring you back... anyone in their right mind would want that person to be the most highly educated person they can get, and for me, that means NO NURSE. I want an M.D. with a good reputation or you'd have to catch me first to get me on the table. For your surgery (and any surgery you ever have) insist on having a good M.D. to put you out. Find out who the anesthetist will be for your surgery and research them the same as you do your surgeon. If your anesthetist is chosen randomly right before your surgery and you can't have a say in who gets the job for you, think twice. Having experience in medical malpractice, I've learned that very serious surgical mistakes are often the fault of the anesthetist rather than the surgeon. It's also made me very wary of the medical field all together... ugh, I'd rather not know about the things i know.

    Don't make the mistake of approaching your surgery as if it were as simple and unremarkable as having root canal or an ingrown toenail fixed. It's surgery under general anesthesia and should be approached with the same caution and education as any other major surgery.

    Now that i've sufficiently frightened everyone (geez ), here's a couple things about recovery... very good idea about the frozen veggies. I did that myself after surgery on my jaw. Frozen peas or corn conform nicely to dips and hollows... just be careful not to roll over on it once it melts (yup, been there, done that! yuck!). The pain medication will most likely cause nausea since it's going to be a narcotic of some sort. If you're concerned about this (and who wants to be in pain AND feel sick), ask your doctor to prescribe some "anti-puke" pills also. A common one is Compazine. These things are amazing. Not only do they keep you from barfing, they get rid of the upset stomach too. When recovering, you need to eat and be able to keep your food down so you can get back to your normal self faster and get back to work. Get back to your normal routine as quickly as you can. Lazing around in bed when you don't really have to will backfire on you and make it more difficult to get back to your pre-surgery self. It only takes a couple of days in bed to make a noticable difference in your skin, muscle tone and energy level. Surgery, particularly for women, can bring on unexplained depression. You may feel oddly "weepy" or down in the dumps days or weeks after your surgery, so don't be surprised if it happens. Once you start feeling physically yourself again, this should pass. If it gets so bad that it lasts for more then a couple weeks or it really impacts your life, ask your doctor for some temporary mood elevators, but be careful not to become attached to them. There's also some good herbal remedies to lift your mood and exercise is proven to be a mood elevator.

    And THAT, is long winded.

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    You are right, they are RNs, but after they get their Bachelors' degrees and pass the NCLEX they must go through a rigorous 2-3 year masters program, complete a residency, and then pass an additional exam before they are eligible to be called nurse anesthetists. One of my best friends is a nurse anesthetist and I met her just when she was starting school.

    Anesthesiologists feel very threatened by nurse anesthetists as they get paid $300,000+ per annum while an NA commands $100,000+ and consequently like to perpetuate the idea that NAs are somehow inqualified to be doing what they are doing. I think my friend and others would be very upset to hear that their care is inferior because they are not MDs. Because their training is so broad in scope and text-book based rather than hands-on like a nurses's, first-year resident MDs often don't know what the hell they are doing.

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    i wouldn't have a first year resident knock me out either. i'm nobody's test subject.

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    Just so you know:

    I am a very different opinon - I am against cosmetic surgery, so if you don't want to hear it, then feel free to stop reading. There is more money, I couldn't deny that. But you might consider that you are essentially mutilating your healthy body for it. That current saline implants are not any more thoroughly researched than the silicone implants, that everyone who is put under is at risk, that it makes it dangerous to breastfeed any children you might have and that "novelty sized" breasts on a normal frame can cause many other physical problems from your feet to your back. You might just consider.

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    can't deny that. the only reason breast implants of any type got past the FDA is cause it's a man's world. i'm against any cosmetic surgery for the purpose of income potential. on the other hand, it's a godsend for those whose outlook at life is seriously shadowed by a physical imperfection. none of us are getting out of here alive and there's risk in everything including just crossing the street. anyone that gets any type of cosmetic surgery really must weigh the benefits against the risks and make their decisions based on that, and the benefits should be their own personal happiness and well-being - not whether or not it would increase their income. it really pisses me off that there are so many implant owning women out there that the average teenager truly believes that a natural breast is perfectly round and juts straight out from a point high on the chest regardless of the womens' age. it also pisses me off that there are so many surgeons out there making disgustingly fake twin hills of concrete for pay... if they were doing nose jobs instead they wouldn't be taking the attitude of "just hammer out the bump and so what if it looks like shit when it's done."

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    Cosmetic vrs Plastic surgery
    is that plastic surgery is corrective - burn victims, birth defects. Cosmetic surgery is...cosmetic. An older friend of mine had silicone implants and they were a mess. A painful, leaking mess. When saline came out everyone was like "oh, this is so safe, and if they leak they are still safe" and of course, this is exactly what they said (okay, not exactly, but close) about silicone and they have the same amount of research - none - and nobody as any idea what this ultimately does to your body. I think it's interesting that they tell us that it is safe to have IN our breasts, but that we shouldn't breast feed. And the ads irk me - they talk as if this is a medical procedure, like having small breasts is a disease or disorder of some kind. How you will be sexier and more confident after the implants. How do you feel sexier if the nerve of your nipple has been severed and you no longer have feeling?
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    cosmetic surgery ads of any kind irk me. so do attorney ads... "if you've been injured in an accident, call me! i'll get you loads of money! i'm Joe, Shmoe, THE Injury Attorney!" *gag barf*. professionals that place ads are the ones to avoid like the plague. they're only in it for the money.

    in regard to your friend, does she have a lawsuit or is she part of the silicone breast implant class action suit? to legally cover their butts, every surgeon has to explain all the known risks involved with any surgery to their patients and most often the patient must sign a consent form that says they have been made aware of all the risks and they want to go ahead with the surgery anyway. permanent loss of nipple sensation is a known risk and should have been revealed to your friend before her surgery. if she knew all the risks and went ahead with it, well, that's pretty much on her. if not, it's a damn shame and i hope she sued the pants off the surgeon.

    technically, there is no difference between "cosmetic" and "plastic" surgery. surgeons who do breast implants in the u.s. are part of the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons (or they should be). There is no american society of "cosmetic" surgeons. many surgeons prefer the term "cosmetic" as there is no actual plastic involved in plastic surgery. surgeons who do surgeries primarily involving skin grafts for, say, burn victims or to correct birth defects, etc. put emphasis on their being "reconstructive" surgeons. yet, surgeons who do breast implants and surgeons who do skin grafts for burn victims are still part of the same group... plastic/reconstructive surgeons. the same is true for obstetrics and gynecology. a surgeon may specialize in either OB or GYN but they're still part of the same group - obstetrics/gynecology. the training is the same for both OB and GYN, but a surgeon may choose to specialize in either one. it's the same for plastic(cosmetic)/reconstructive surgeons.

    i don't see a problem with people wanting cosmetic surgery. we live in a society that places emphasis on what is visibly pleasing and most people are emotionally effected by features that are not at least close to the ideal. i see no reason why someone born with a giant nose that seriously effected their well-being and confidence should not have a nose job if they want one. same goes for small breasted women. perhaps it would take living with a giant nose, small breasts, ears that stick out, acne scars, or whatever to appreciate a person's desire to have these surgically altered.

    however, there is too much going overboard with cosmetic surgery. people should really evaluate whether or not some imperfection is serious enough to warrant the desire for cosmetic surgery. but, a person's desire for cosmetic surgery is a highly personal decision. what someone else may believe is too small a thing to bother with, may be a big personal detriment to the person who must live with it.

    as far as breast implants go, the ones that bother me are the obvious "fake boulder boobs," or worse, those ugly bizarre basketball boobs. the basketball boobs REALLY annoy me. what surgeon worth their salt would agree to do such a hideous thing to a woman? would they give someone an enormous nose the size of their foot just because the person asked for it? pretty sick.

    the medical profession as well as most other professions are geared towards men even in these modern times. did you know that new medications are tested on only men for approval because womens' hormones seriously effect regular testing methods? nice, huh? a new drug can hit the market that the medical profession has no clue if it may adversely effect women. :o now, that's really sick. look at penial implants... you don't see surgeons grinding a slew of men through the surgery mill giving them "fake boulder dicks" like they do up a pair of "fake boulder boobs." ooooh nooooo! when it comes to mens' parts, surgeons would only perform surgery on those patients wanting bigger dicks that truly desperately wanted it, and would be soooo careful that the results were A+ perfect. you know, i'd really be curious to know if anyone ever had sloppy, careless "fake boulder boob" implant results from a woman surgeon or if a woman surgeon ever agreed to give a woman those horrible basketball boobs.

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    I actually firmly believe that if penile implants were as in demand as breast implants they would have SUCH careful government supervision. Can't mess with men's penises. Those are important. Women's decisions to have surgery make perfect sense to me - I'm a woman, and I'm far from physically perfect. However I don't think surgery is a solution, I think it is more a self-esteem issue. If you have a Cyrano-big nose then yes, perhaps surgery is a solution. But most of the time I don't think it actually solves or helps anything. I'm not advocating that women should not have the right to seek cosmetic surgery. I just think we should consider what we are doing, and what it is eventually solving. And it's the doctors as well - think about it. You've been trained (in theory) to heal people, and instead you are cutting open healthy flesh to insert a dangerous, foreign chemical compound. It's a weird thing to want to do.

    My friend settled a private lawsuit a long time ago.

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    >>My friend settled a private lawsuit a long time ago.<<

    good on her. serves that asshole surgeon right.

    >>PS: I'm not arguing with you in a nasty agree-with-me-now kind of way. I just have strong opinions is all. Just in case I'm coming across too strong.<<

    hey, no problem. geez, you should hear my sister!

    actually, in a lot of ways, i think we do agree. more often then not, cosmetic surgery is an emotional issue that cripples the self-esteme. people really need to focus on the real problem which isn't the imperfect body part. however, some people even with counseling, antidepressants, self-help groups, etc. still can't get to a better level of well-being any other way. by the same token, i believe surgeons should really try to determine if a patient's emotional problem over a certain body part can't be dealt with without surgery first. i have difficulty with surgeons that put patients under the knife simply because a patient, say, decided they like demi moore's nose better then the one they have when they have a perfectly fine nose. surgery isn't like putting on a new dress or getting a haircut, and too many people, doctors and patients alike, treat it much that way.

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    Im all for any type of elective surgery, and support a woman/man who chooses to do so. More power to the women who want to have bigger breasts. And i agree with you all, don't grab the first cheap surgeon. Most surgeons don't even have to be board certified to to breast surgery. Now that is scary!!! Research..research. And don't give in to one opinion. get a few different opinions. Read books, and talk with other women who have had the surgery. They are the best source, however you will get mixed feelings.
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    I also agree Pamela

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    I just got mine in MArch and I LOVE them!!! It was as good an investment as LASIK. I have a whole new world of possibilities open to me in terms of $, job opportunities as a result. I have to say that with the breast aug, that the opportunities are real, and not just "extra confidence"- I got "extra confidence" and became more outgoing after having my nose done, but big breasts really will get you hired first in the world of finance. Men treat you like you're more valuable. It's a shitty world that way, but the truth is that it makes it easier to get by.

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    I'm on my 5th BA at the moment, with experimental PPP string implants of about 3,800cc volume = 34M bra size. I've had many different sizes of earlier implants. As a house dancer I found that DDD cups seemed to be the best from an earnings standpoint, since they were big enough to command attention from across the club but still small enough to avoid "freaking out" some club customers. When I changed to FF cups my house dancer earnings actually went down a bit as I still wasn't big enough to attract the serious huge boob fetish customers but I was certainly big enough to start alienating some club customers. Once I got up to HH cups the fetish customers started getting interested, as did the magazines and feature agents.

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    I got mine in April and I love em!

    One question for Melonie and others with bigger implants: Everyone keeps asking me if my back hurts since I got the new boobs - is it supposed to hurt? Do larger implants cause back problems over time? I haven't noticed any problems yet, but it's been less than 3 months...

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    most women who complain about implants causing them back problems are not in the kind of physical shape we are! How many women think nothing of hauling their entire body weight up a pole with one arm ? Even though my implants weigh like 17-18 pounds, the only time I have back problems is if I have been sick in bed for several days and unable to work out. As long as you stay in reasonable shape physically your 3 pounds worth of implants should never bother you.

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    That's pretty much what I thought, but when I KEPT getting that same question, I started to wonder. Everyone seems to think I'm either crazy or lying when I say they don't bother me at all, but come on, I weigh 130 and I can climb a pole and do pull-ups on the vertical bars all night long! I'm not exactly a weeny

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    Have a BA tentatively scedueled for April.

    Most of my dancer friends have BAs so it doesnt seem as crazy to me as it does to non-dancer aquaintences.

    I've been on a researching & consultation journey. Seeing 2nd PS tomorrow... Did not like how the "after" pics looked with the first PS though he was very expirianced.


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    Agreed that going to have plastic surgery is for a persons self esteem! I think this is great, anything a woman wants to do to enhance her looks will refelct on her personallity. She will feel better about her self.

    Now there are surgeries that go wrong, and i feel for those people. Nothing is ever perfect...ever.

    Any good doc. will have a counsel with you first, then determine if the reason you want this is for you...not an ex Bf in hopes if winning him back.

    Just like changing our hair colour.....it's a change, and sometimes forever!
    Or making over our bodies with working out!

    Only we have to pay to have a surgeon give us boobs, or a different shaped nose....or we would probably be doing that ouselves too if we could without pain and surgery!

    If it makes a woman or man feel better about themselves, i'm all for it.
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