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    Reading a good book about sales technique. It is very, VERY helpful.
    Care to tell which book, or share some information from it?

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    For starters:



    I also confess that I took a worskshop on how to talk dirty from Carol Queen and Robert Lawrence. Robert has a way of speaking that turns me into jello. I swear he could get me to do anything just by whispering into my ear for a few seconds.

    At one point a dancer demanded that I tell her what on earth I was whispering into everyone's ear. I demo-ed on her and her eyes went wide and she said "Oh my God, I think I'm horny...." Then she started laughing and turned beet red. It was really cute.

    All you need is a little imagination and some practice. Try calling a friend and doing phone sex and see what happens. Make a lot of eye contact and do what actors do-- *lower* voice a register or two. People aren't aware of this, but if you are nervous, your voice will tend to go up. If you consciously lower it, you will sound poised and in control. And sexy. And always introduce yourself. Pay a compliment, a sincere one-- men are usually disarmed by this because they don't expect it. Even something as simple as "You look like you are really happy."

    Just a few tidbits.

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    My girlfriends works 6 to 8 hour at a time four days a week. She works at one of the best clubs in NY. It is nude, and she works the late shift. 8 to 2 or 4 in the morning. You just need to look confident, and don't start to get mad if the night goes by slow, it only takes one guy to make your night. Plus she has a number of regulars

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    RYAN.. very true. Only ONE guy who has 'fallen in love with you' heehee, will make your night worth it! There's been VERY slow nights where I'll be wanting to go home, then right before closing, some guy will spend BANK and everything seems great

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    This is why it boggles my mind when a girl will leave because she's not making any money. It happened to me last night. I work 4 hour shifts and did no dances during the first two hours. The last two hours, I did a few for one guy, but 18 for another! This sort of thing happens all the time.

    Almost every time I have a good night, it's because 50% or more of my money came from one guy.

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    Here is the real scoop on the business. The old saying that it only takes one guy to make you night or making no money all night until your knight in shining armour comes in and spends several hundred dollars is not going to happen every night. More times than not you will have an under $100 night.

    We can't look at luck for all of our earnings. Money should be made off of a busy club environment consisting of a mixed clientele and this business has gotten much slower over the last 5-10 years.

    Many younger girls have been attracted to this business based on the high earnings touted about by girls working in the mid-nineties. Look at all the stories you read about coaches and professional athletes and high end executives being fired and reprimanded for visiting strip clubs. These were your big spenders. do you think that Arety's strip club in Pensacola FL sees many guys like the former Alabama coach Price who dropped hundreds of dollars in one night , on a daily basis? That is why the dancers were so hungry for his money. And the ripple effect from his indescretions will be that other prominent people who would normally blow big $ in clubs won't go anymore unless they are alone in an area where they are not recognized.

    All the laws banning contact lap dancing have killed this business. I just booked in 2 clubs, one where dances must be done on a platform and another where nudity was banned along with full contact stage shows and the club volume dropped drastically. I had customers from the area that knew me say "I don't want any of these dances. I'll buy from you on your next booking at the club you usually book at." those clubs both equated to just under $1000 for a 6 day booking including my $300 road girl pay. the other club the customer told me he will see me at my next booking is worth $1800-$2000+.

    The problems in Las Vegas now stem from club owners having to make payoffs to operate. Dallas has not been the same since the legal crackdown. San Antonio anti lap dance laws and club closings plus the problems started by Giuliani in New York City displaced lots of dancers who have to work somewhere. You all know lots of other cities who have passed laws taking the liquor out of the clubs and eliminating the lap dance contact which motivates guys to buy lots of dances.

    This is not to mention all the DUI's given by cops outside of all types of bars that have scared off many bar patrons. All types of night life was bumpin' in the 80's and now towns are dead at night.

    Clubs all over whether high end or middle of the road are slow now and there are more dancers in most of them than customers. and many are slow to buy dances compared to 10 years ago.

    And high end clubs which are generally located in yuppie or airport areas do not have out of town businessmen and convention goers piling in them nightly. it is hit and miss. the weekends are slow in these clubs. The $700 night you had last night might be $80 tonight because no one is in town. that is why it is important to manage our earnings well.

    Most of the customers that frequent clubs are driving down the interstate alone or out of town on business. Many cities will not allow billboards advertising the clubs so the guys that would stop aren't always aware of the clubs.

    And unlike Al Bundy who can say, "Peg, I'm going to the titty bar, don't wait up for me, most middle aged guys who are the target customers have families and can't get to the club near their homes. So many of these clubs are getting filled up with 20 something guys and girls who ar not going to spend $100 or $200 on dances.

    Answer me on this one. How many clubs have you been in that are at least 75% full of guys aged 35-65 years old that look like news anchors appearancewise?

    my point is money will vary in this business and you will have to take the good with the bad. NEVER WALK OUT OF A CLUB OR LEAVE EARLY, but realize that the big spending customers aren't there every day, and that you have to accept the $50 or $100 days in order to get to the $300, $500, or more days.

    And save your money, no matter how slow your night was at least 30% of it per night, because you never know when what happened in NYC, Dallas, San Antonio, Tampa, Las Vegas, or Rapid City will happen where you work.

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    I just started working at my club. Economy is low but i think i am doing okay so far. I love this!


    Week
    Tue - 200
    Wed - 300
    Thu - 400
    Fri - 460
    Sat - 477
    Total - 1085 (slow week - not often)

    Week 2
    Tue - 200
    Wed - 400
    Thu - 400
    Fri - 480
    Sat - 600


    Week 3
    Tue - 300
    Wed - 440
    Thu - 670
    Fri - 480
    Sat - 320


    Week 4

    Wed - 284
    Thur - 524
    Fri - 554
    Sat - 530


    Week 5
    waiting to exhale
    Most people would rather be certain they're miserable, than risk being happy.

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    TOTALS ARE NOT MINE SO SORRY ABOUT THAT i was too lazy to re write monday tuestda.

    anyways , i hope the season is coming up. I know gurls at my ckub make 1000-750 a day:! and thats when the club takes almost half...!
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    I have never had a 50 or even a hundred dollar day and I have been dancing since 93,in the bikini club I started in 10 dollar dances my worst night in 6 years was 220,I usually had regulars every night though,I built them up over all that time and even on a night were maybe at 11 I only did 5 dances a regular would walk in and I would make 200 and the 200 was a bad and rare occurance.I dont agree with tina that 96 was peak,I made the most money between 98-2002,though I only made 4 trips in 2003, I was still averaging 8-1000,but I work in top clubs with high earning potential were a bad night is 500-600.

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    yes that money was before, i hope you saved or INVESTED it right. Right now is not all that but we can still do better than doctors and lawyer.s.How many lawyers make 103 $ an hr..its fun
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    Whats before?2003 I went to vegas,new orleans and myrtle bch and still made 700-1000 a night,some girls always make money,I guess juliet and I are 2 of them.

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    Iam sorry ,my mistake it was 2002,last december was last trip,but still I went to conn in august this year and made 600 at a shitty club,I only worked three shifts,I was mostly there to visit fiance and I still work like 2 days a month in florida and I still never make less than 400,so times arent bad for everyone,in chicago and ny they are still making 8-1000,as soon as I find a good person to travel with I would like to start going on 4 trips a year,I dony like to work localy,Iam too picky.

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    boy...take TINA'S word on this subject, michele i do not believe you are very objective in your rationale and oftentimes come out looking full of yourself! confidence is a nice thing but keep it in check...Tina, i think you hit on all subjects, were very thourough and TRUTHFUL for MOST. IMHO. everyone should read tina's post for a more average expectation.

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    Well at least I have worked in said clubs I commented on,I also live in tampa,and girls are still making good money,for people to comment on clubs they have never worked,or expect because they work in lower end clubs the potential for 500-1000 a night isnt out there is ludicrous,tina herself will tell you she doesnt work in high end show clubs and because she makes 2-300 a night doesnt make everyones earning potential in the range,it all depends on were you work,what you look like,and how well you can communicate with men,yes the economy is terrible,yes income is down,but if I sound FULL of myself,its because of comments like well that was then,no that is what I make,the subject was asked ,I answered.

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    i said most, equivilent to average, like from the whole populous...imo. hey, at worst you go in expecting less and get more! well then i say my freind, all have won! it is nice to know some that are doing well/good, i am truly happy for those for i hope to be one as well! averageing is a tricky thing~

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    Iam sure when you get back with the big new boobies,you will be banking,good luck.

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    Don't we all like money?

    I was wondering where are some of the best states to earn big money? I want to try out the US. Need a change of scenery!
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    I've been dancing a while and when i first started out i made 500-700$ a week working 4-5 nights,now i've developed a long line of clients and make 3000-4000 a week working 4 nights.It's your eye contact,and your ability to smell money across the room.don't waste your time with talkers,introduce yourself and then creativaly ask for a dance!

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    Here goes my week-

    Sunday:$120
    Tuesday:$410
    Wednesday: $200
    Friday: :180
    Saturday-700
    Total-1,610
    slightly better than average.

    If I have a slow week, it looks like this-
    Monday-30
    Tuesday130
    Thursday-200
    Friday-370
    Saturday-230
    Total-860

    For me it is still worth it to stay in the industry. I think it beats the hell out of Walmart!

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    it really depends on what club you work at... and like everyone else said... it varies... and is not usually steady... i would go to the club you wanna work with and talk to one of the dancers about their experiences... don't forget to tip them for their time though... good luck...
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    I guess it depends on where you work and the season. Right now is christmas season, people have other things to spend their money on than naked ladies. ;0P I'm making between 700 and 1200 a week. IN the good seasons I make between 1000 and 2000. the most I ever made was 5500. You are young and new and guys like that. Watch and respect the girls who have been doing it for awhile, you will learn a lot.
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