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    i have a question for all you guys out there.
    what makes you get more than just one dance from a dancer? what does she have to say or do to get more dances and tips? just wondering!

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    I say yes to a second dance, if I feel a chemistry connection. Before I ever get the first dance I know I will want more. That is what a tip rail is for. You connect with the dancers eyes, during her stage show. You know right away. I rarely will sit with more than one dancer in an evening. I always make sure to tip every girl working that night at the rail, then I retire to the seating area, and amazingly, the girl I liked the most just comes right over. Chemistry goes both ways.

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    I would say that chemistry is a good answer. Sometimes you just click with someone and everything is great. Although there may be certain moves that I like, it's not really anything specific that a dancer says or does that makes me want another dance. I guess it's the feeling of a connection that keeps me wanting more. But, I suppose that's not very helpful. I guess what might stop me from getting more dances is if she seems to just be going through the motions.
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    Big_Gun is correct. You can usually tell right away if there is some type of connection. I’m not talking about romance or sexual attraction so much, but the type of connection you make with a “real” and “natural” personality. So many dancers try to affect some type of sex-kitten persona; it just doesn’t work for me—usually it just comes off as terribly corny.

    But if she’s real, honest, and a fun personality, I’ll usually bite—and when I do bite, I tend to spend a lot of money. Bottom line, I’m at a club to have fun, have a few drinks, relax and be titillated. I’m not there to meet a wannabe porn star, to get a blowjob or to meet the woman of my dreams.

    I guess what might stop me from getting more dances is if she seems to just be going through the motions.
    I also agree with Sleepy's statement. You can tell if a dancer is just going through the motions. If she is cold, uninteresting, has that "I'm the bomb, and there must be something wrong with you if you don't get a dance from me" attitude, I will just say no thanks.

    Looks aren't really all that important to me. Yes, I enjoy a very sexy and attractive dancer, but if she's a hottie who is also a bimbo, has an attitude or approaches me with the standard corny lines, I'll pass on a dance.

    Personally, I think the most important thing you can do is to look into a customers eyes as much as possible, both during your approach and while you’re doing a dance. Many people have a problem with looking directly at the person they’re talking to. If you can master that along with a warm or sexy smile, you will probably keep the $20 coming.

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    I agree, there is a chemistry. but it also depends on my funds. a lot of time I go with a fixed budget that allows me only one Vip dance. but I will get another one another time from the ones I enjoy. the thing that attracts my attention is that you look like you are enjoying my company. or you are being sexy without looking like you are trying. I do NOT respond to the hard sell. I have changed tables or left the club before when A gal just would accept that I didn't want a dance from her.

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    If you're truly enjoying the job, and can find something you like about a guy, no matter what it is, you'll get alot further. Maybe he has nice hands, nice hair, smells good, is funny, nice eyes, whatever - focus on that and you'll find it easier to enjoy the guy, and he'll see the real enjoyment on your part, and it makes him more inclined to want more dances because he can see you're 'into' him. This is a very personal business, so you have to be able to get a little personal, even if only for a few minutes. I will spot something I like about a guy and focus on it, and then it's easy to get a chemistry thing going because it's natural. Of course this doesn't work with everyone, but if you learn to look for something attractive to you about every guy, it works with alot more than you might think!

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    Dear Envious4You--

    You get men to like you as a dancer the same way you get people to like you in general in your private life. Look nice, smell nice, be nice, and generally follow the golden rule of treating people as you hope they would treat you. Above all, don't come off a as a stone cold hustler who treats men like walking ATMs! Don't overcharge or snarkily demand a big tip.

    A dancer I met recently told me she made her money with her personality, not her body, and I believe her. She was bright, articulate, interesting, and funny before, during, and after the private dances. She was, in short, worth her weight in gold, and was the kind of dancer who keeps men coming back again and again.

    Too many dancers all too obviously hate what they do and, by extension, hate the men they dance for. They are sullen, cold, and mechanical, and don't respond to subtle (and even overt verbal) cues as to what a man likes and what he doesn't during a dance.

    Smile back at the man if he smiles at you. If all a man gets back is a dead, fish eye mask of indifferent boredom and thinly veiled contempt, all the boobs in the face won't matter--it'll be a lousy experience for him, and he will be out of there and on the lookout for a friendlier dancer.

    However, don't overdo the fake GFE (girlfriend experience) thing either, as we men will know when we're being scammed that way. All we really want and expect is a few pleasant minutes with a genuinely pleasant pretty girl, and if you can give us that, we'll be your grateful regulars for the length of your career.

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    Personality! As other posters have said, I would rather spend time with an 8 with a fun personality than with a 10 who is a doormat. Also don't present attitude that I'm there for you. I dancer who is a good conversationalist, shows interest in what she does as well as who I am will open up my cash reserves quicker.

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    Here's my list of reasons.

    1. Personality- It goes a long way.

    2. Sincereity- Yes, you have to lie to hustle thats part of being a hustler, but if I get the feeling from a dancer that I'm just an ATM machine with a pulse, and she's taking a contemptious tone of voice with me while I'm treating her with respect and want to hear words other than "Want another dance" I don't care if your a 10, I'll go to the 5 that can talk.

    3. Attitude, The best hustlers I've met seem to follow this rule:

    Papa Bull, and Baby bull were on a hill overlooking herd of Cows.

    Baby Bull say's to Papa Bull "Hey dad lets run down the hill and fuck a cow while the others runaway"

    Papa Bull looks at his son and say's "No"

    Baby Bull looking puzzeled at papa ask's "why"

    Before he can finish his question, Papa Bull looks at Baby Bull and says "Son, how about we just walk down the hill and fuck them all"

    Baby Bull stops for a second, and then just start's walking down the hill with his dad.

    4. Chemistry, some customers you click with some you don't. Heres a good real life example.

    A friend of mine's club get's some military guys in all the time. Most dancers hate them because they don't tip well, act like drunken jerks, and rarely buy any lap dances at all, because they don't earn that much money.

    My friend makes alot of money from them.

    How you does she do this you ask.

    Easy she's a veteran of our armed forces, and can speak the lingo, as well a swap war stories. The guy's love her for this and pay out of the feeling of Espirt De Corps that is felt. This is without doing anything hi milage. She makes a killing.

    It also works for Isreali girls who served too. Warrior Culture respects warrior culture. Thats just the way it is.

    All you need to do is find your niche customer in the club and go after them. You'll make money and have fun when other girls can't.

    In other words don't waste time with customers you don't click with, move on until you find somebody you can. i.e. be like water You'll make more money without being frustrated.


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    Hi folks....I'm a newbie and a customer.
    On to the question.....
    this may seem unorthodox, but I usually don't do dances until I get a chance to "scope out" the place, and maybe talk with a couple of the dancers (while tipping and buying drinks, of course).
    Don't laugh, but most often my motivation for getting a second (or third, or third and fourth) dance is one of the following two:
    1. the lady is someone I'm aquainted with, and like, and someone who is kind and respectful to me.
    2. And/or someone who is having a rough night financially....I've given dancers who were my "friends" more dances to help them bring home some dollars.

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    I am not a customer,but I can tell you what workes for me.I get undressed SLOWLY and don't take my panty off until the end of the song.but tease them as if they are about to drope off any second.
    Ice,bring a glass of ice.let him see it and know it is there.half way though the second song play with the ice.suck on a peice and look them in the eyes.
    or suckers or candles(candles I save for big spenders,not frist time big spenders someone that you know wants to spend money on you)You really don't have to do anything kinky with what ever you bring.just let them think you could.
    always look them in the eyes and have fun.

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    Well, months later... but here's what makes me buy more than one dance (actually more than three, because I always buy dances in threes. 3 is my favorite number & I know it takes a bit to see if I gel with a dancer). (And I'm not a guy but I am a very regular regular. 2-3 x a week, $1000 minimum. Yes, I am an addict.)

    The dancer I have spent the most on was one I was not even initially interested in. I was unimpressed with the first stage dance I saw of hers (though I do tip every dancer on the stage because I respect the courage & skill).

    This is what snagged me. She approached me. Though I have been told I'm intimidating physically by many dancers, she made a beeline for me. I respected that.

    She smiled a lot & laughed & seemed to be happy. She sat in my lap & draped her hair over one side & semi-in my face & it smelled incredible. She was able to "cocoon" us right away, even though I was there with a friend. What friend?

    She took my hands in hers & looked at my rings & told me how much she'd like to have my hands on her. What nice hands I have. (I do have a hand fetish so this may just be my quirk.)

    When we went to the VIP Lounge, she was awkward about getting her "dress" off & asked me to help. So I did.

    She flattered me relentlessly & asked me what I like.

    She said, "I'd love to lie in bed with you & watch porn."

    And, really, after that I was hooked forever after.

    She offered me jellybeans which I thought was adorably sweet.

    She laughed with her hand over her mouth & seemed hesitant to look in my eyes. When I ran my hands along her beautiful arms very slowly she just watched as though mesmerized.

    She would "mmmmmmm" constantly when I touched her & who doesn't want that?

    She kept telling me that I was the customer she dreams about & who doesn't want that, too?

    So I never buy less than 21 dances from her & I think that works for both of us.

    I hope that was helpful.
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    Woohoo!!!!!!!! Nice seduction scene.....but then, that's what we're really talking about. Who doesn't want to be wanted, admired and lusted after? I know I get a lot more turned on when I can feel,hear and see her absolute and all consuming lust for me!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hotttttttttttt

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    The one who gets 2nd and 3rd dances from me are the ones who make me the only man in the place for the time we have together. No looking around to see who's with who. Just me and you please! Thank you.
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    It's simple with me.Good conversation and feeling that a dancer likes your company will mean extra tips for her.It may sound corny but the best times I've had with dancers was just talking about their lives,movies,kids,etc.If a dancer can stroke a man's ego and makes him feel a little better about himself I guarantee that man will reward her with big tips every time he visits her.

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    generally I get multiple dances from the girls I feel comfortable talking to. An erotic full contact dance from a girl who can't make small talk won't get me to a second dance. An air dance from a pretty intelligent girl will keep me coming back for more. I guess personality and looks are what get me back for more. Since looks are a given the differentiater is personality. I might add the most erotic encounters I have had in SCs have been with very bright ladies.

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    For me it's a combination of personality, eroticism and contact. And by personality I include a great smile and eye contact. I also like to sit and get to know a girl a little first, as I'd much rather dance with a real person than a piece of meat. So there has to be some good conversation first. Then if the girl allows as much contact as the club permits and seems to enjoy dancing for me she will always get more. Act bored and uninterested in me and it's a one shot deal.
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    I totally agree with big gun and awboy, but don't forget to be seductive. This is very key, along with the looks and talking in the privates. Just make sure that you keep the heat and sexuall energy flowing, keep him wanting more. You'll you know you did a good job depending on his tip.

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    I would say that one thing that gets me to get more lap dances and tip better at the end along with the obvious of a connection and being able to talk, is this, once i have shown interest or even if i havn't is when a dancer comes over and sits next to me or on my lap and just will hang out for a while or will stay and talk for just a few minutes after the dance. now i know that you are there trying to make money but if you get more money from me then thats less you need to make from others. Because although pointed out in another post $20 is a very fair price for a naked lady to dance erotically on you, It's alot easier to get addicted to company and personality then just a silent naked woman. For example on 2 different trips to vegas i had a different girl each time come give me dances and then after the first dance they stayed and talk and with each dance they sat a little longer till it was almost an hour at the end of the night. Now its true they gave up alot of time but in 2 nights on each trip i gave them each a thousand dollars or more a night .

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    Eye contact and a lively personality do it for me. I also tend to stick with the dancers who respond to my compliments, to my rubbing their shoulders, etc. One night in Davenport a dancer murmured in my ear "You're going to spoil me," and I about melted on the spot. If I'd been a bit more flush at the time, I'd have raided the ATM and kept spoiling her for hours.

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    It takes looks for me to ask you to join me. After that it's all people skills. Make eye contact, talk to me, smile, laugh, have fun, show a genuine interest in me, make me feel special and I'll empty my wallet for you. And I'll be back every chance I get because it's so rare to find a dancer who really does all these things.
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    That's easy-- I ask for a second dance if I have enough money for one. And I generally don't go to a club unless I'm prepared for 2 or 3 dances. A tougher question; what makes me go out to the ATM (those club ATM's are SUCH a ripoff) to get money for more dances when I run out of the money I've alloted for that club visit? I dunno, just a connection of some kind that gets me rooting for her to have a thousand dollar day (not that I ever drop anywhere near that amount).

    If a girl is obviously bored and just going through the motions I might stop after a single, but I don't run into that very often. There are a lot of dedicated, gifted professionals out there.

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    I posted something parallel to this in the General Discussion board...A buddy of mine introduced me to the strip club scene not that long ago. I met this true exotic dancer that pushed the boundaries, but was able to start a conversation with me outside the private rooms. Truthfully, I like her insides as musch as her outsides. When I go back and get a dance from her, she always asks how Ive been and what's up in my life...then she dances for me. Recently, Ive visted yet another SC and have gotten totally turned off buy dancers asking for a VIP dances right off the bat when I step up to the bar. Atleast say I have a nice shirt on or something...or I my cloths match my shoes. Why I come back to see my regular dancer is because for one, I like that type of girl...style, attitude, body, etc... and she looks out for me as much as I do for her.

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