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    Wife picked me out a new dancer the other night. She was somewhat of a wallflower and sat alone at the bar mostly.

    Anyway, my wife suggested that she looked like my type and that we should tell the waitress to have her come to our table. Turns out my better half can pick them a lot better than I can! This girl was GREAT! We have the same twisted sense of humor and the same habit of quietly making fun of the dudes and dancers who are trying to look cooler than they really are.

    One guy had shaved his head and was dressed like the character, Lex Luther, on TVs Smallville. We had a field day with him.

    Anyway, we had numerous dances that night and she and I had the chemistry that I have been looking for a long time. My wife bragged on the way home that she knew me a lot better than I know myself...she's probably right.

    Anyway, here's the problem. Last night we went back and my new ATF and I were having a terrific time. On our first dance she surprised me with a new move that involved her standing on her hands, backward, with her legs wrapped around my neck. Everything would have been really cool except for one thing: her crotch was inches from my face and it smelled really bad of, well, bathroom type odors. (#1 and #2)

    Went back last night and the same thing happened. She seems to enjoy my company and I enjoy hers. In fact, she's the best dancer I've ever had.

    I would not hurt this girl's feelings for anything in the world and want to keep getting dances from her. My only thought at this point is to fake an injury and tell her that while I really like the new move, my neck/shoulders won't take it.

    Does that sound reasonable or does anyone have another idea. I really don't think she has any idea about this. Telling other dancers is out of the question. These girls tear each other apart on a regular basis.

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    Tell her how much you really like some other position and ask her to just do that. And don't be too critical, I'm sure if you or I danced all night long we wouldn't smell too great either. She sounds like a keeper. Enjoy.
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    I'm sorry but that is nasty! I sweat like crazy at work and according to my bestbud, who does *ahem* very intimate VIP dances with me, my kitty is sweet and clean. So is hers. If a girl is maintaining properly (changing into clean g-string, using baby wipes) you will not smell anything. However if you like the girl and don't feel comfortable telling her the real reason you don't want her kitty near your face, the neck thing is a good excuse. (Hopefully, she won't switch it up and stand on the couch with crotch in your face! :-/)
    I have a ques. for the dancers here. I don't take down female customers pants or lift skirts. But, I get within 6 or so inches of their kitties on stage or in a dance. And, I swear, like more than 1/2 the time there's a funny, STRONG, musk odor (like when you've been gettin funk-nasty for hours in the summer!). Does this happen to anyone else? It's seriously nauseating.
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    Cupl4Strippers,
    Does the club you go to have shower shows? If they do just pay for a shower show thats what I'm going to do the next time it happends to me. Sorry girls it does happen. Like what was said before if we were doing the dances we would sweet also. I'm also sure that some girls get a little worked up hot and bothered. I'm no expert but this would also cause the smell. Is she new? Maybe she dont know about baby wipes like foxee said. Yes it will hurt her feelings if you said something but in the long run she will understand.



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    If she smells of urine, well that is a problem. She simply is not cleaning herself. We should not smell of urine, (bathroom odour.)

    If it is another smell, she needs to wipe herself with some soap and water.

    There could be many reasons she has vaginal odour. Maybe a yeast infection she is not aware of yet, or Another type of vaginal infection. Most of them will smell fishy however.

    I think she just needs to go between dances and clean herslf. I have worked with dancers that smelled. I mean the bathroom smelled of strong musky (sex) odour. YUK.

    Theis panties smelled, alot happens. A dancer learns pretty early on (most) that the vagina needs to be kept wiped clean through out the night.

    If you kindly asked her to wipe herself just for you before the dance, because you want it personal...say 1on1 and a nice vagina that is cleaned from all the other lap dances, she probably will do it, and not be offended. Please don't tell her she stinks. Some dancers just don't know they do. And being clean is a big part of the job. I think if you say what i said to say, she may go for it.

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    I, too, have smelled those girls! It really is rotten, and I think it's not a matter of not wiping well enough but rather an STD issue. Like Pam said, that fishy odor is a vaginal infection. I'm not sure which one it is, but that is what causes the strong musk odor. The girl needs a visit to the gyno.


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    The odor that you're speaking of is usually PID. My husband gave me PID twice in a row when we first met (first time only I got treated and he gave it to me again). I wasn't working at the time so it wasn't an issue. But I did have a funny smell that I just couldn't seem to get rid of no matter how clean I was. It ended up doing some real damage to my kidneys before the doctors figured out what it was. A couple of antibiotics and it's gone forever. If anyone is having symptoms I recommend getting checked out. Not trying to get personal but it can become a real health hazard if left untreated. Cupl4Strippers I don't think that she would be offended if you asked her to "freshen up" for you. If that doesn't work or you're too shy to ask then the shoulder injury thing is a very good idea.

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    I did a search and the culprit is most likely bacterial vaginosis. It's not really an STD but it can be transmitted sexually. I really don't understand how girls can go around with their nana's stinking like that, and not even notice something is wrong.
    A month or so ago this customer asked me to dance for his wife. I started to dance for her only to discover there was a 1 foot radius of musty stench around her crotch. I mean damn, I could smell it through her jeans! Healthy nana's don't smell that way!

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    Ugh! I have danced for too many girls who are stinky from a foot away at least! eep! A healthy kitty, even when *wet*, shouldn't smell like that! There has to be something else going on there.

    Cupl4Strippers, I agree that suggesting she freshen up would be a polite approach. The shoulder injury thing is kind, too. I find it very nice that you care for this girl's feelings

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    Thanks for the replies, everyone!

    They don't have shower shows at this club, Big Daddy, or I would have certainly paid for several!

    I'm really leaning heavily toward the sore shoulder story since I just can't see myself suggesting she clean or freshen up. When I try and rehearse those kinds of lines I can see her asking or thinking "Freshen up for what?" as in, this guy is wanting something extra.

    Perhaps I'm just paranoid about this issue.

    To clear matters up, this is not the strong musk or fishy odor normally associated with yeast infections or STDs. At least I don't think so. Truthfully, I don't want to even think about her having anything like that. It would seriously flaw the fantasy, you know?

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    I'm not afraid to admit that I've actually been guilty of this crime before and that was because I sacrificed having a shower before work as I was late from uni and didn't want to risk getting fined!! Even though I thought I had covered up with perfume, it wasn't enough to hide the faint smell of B.O. from one anonymous complainer!

    My point is that if you want to, you can always politely complain directly to management if you feel that it is one that the girls can relate to. This is what the customer did that night. Sure, I was a bit annoyed at first, you don't want anyone to think you NEVER look after you personal hygiene, but I appreciated that complaint and knew that it was something I shouldn't try again as it puts people off. It showed that

    a) they didn't want to hurt my feelings to my face,
    b) they didn't pass the complaint around the other girls hoping I'd get the message and
    c) they knew that management could handle a delicate situation like that which would get the point across in the best and least damaging way.

    It also establishes your anonymity so that the dancer in question has no hard feelings against you and you can continue to enjoy your time at the club.

    Even though I knew it was a one-off (though unfortunate!), I can assure you I never skip showers at all anymore!
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    Malibu,

    Thanks for the suggestion about passing it on to management. I have to admit, I never once thought about that.

    What do you other dancers think about that? Would management at most clubs handle this situation with delicacy and diplomacy? And, would they keep the complaint anonomous?

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    awww, that poor gal probably has something that needs to be tended to by a doctor...i have never danced for anyone who was like that but i did work in an office where another unfortunate gal had this problem, and needed medical attention. Yes you should try to tell management--whatever--she could be jepordizing her health, and others noses!
    * what is ATF?? i know i am a moron...can't figure it out! lol

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    I just learned the term recently myself. Glad to hear there is a fellow moron on this board! lol

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    I guess it depends on the club and the managers there. I can think of certian managers who would not tell the girl, but would have a huge laugh and some snickering at her expense. That's a toughie. If I had some coochie infection I wouldn't want the news getting around to anyone else. I guess I'd rather be told directly, but I can totally see the girl getting offended and taking it out on you. That fake shoulder injury is starting to sound really good.

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    Bacterial Vaginosis is not an STD, but it is difficult to treat without seeing a doctor. I'm guessing that since you noticed a #2 smell, this lady dosen't know how to properly clean which (suprisingly) is more common than you think. Anyway, BV is possible because if she dosen't clean around back, bacteria could go around front and cause all hell to break loose.
    I'm also guessing that if this lady has no problem making fun of other people, she must be open-minded enough to accept some tactfully delivered constructive criticism. Perhaps you should just tell her about it. What if you tell management and she loses her job? Worse yet, I've seen managers trun around and repeat the gossip to everybody in the club with 2 seconds to listen, what if that happens?
    It's obvious her smell is causing her not to get dances or else she wouldn't be sitting alone at the bar when everyone else was working...
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    It's easier to tell management if you know that they are trustworthy. The management at our club were two females, they weren't young either, quite motherly and kept great contact with the dancers. This is why in that case, it was a good idea. I'm not being sexist or ageist or anything, but younger more arrogant managers or males, could be more vindictive and wouldn't take any possible infections into account, I agree with that. That's why I said it's a good option if the girls can relate to management, not just work under them.

    It is worth investigating or you could tell her to her face (a tough option but can't be too bad if she's a good character I think and respects you) or keep with the sore shoulder story.

    You could maybe even get your wife to pass on the hint, girl-on-girl talk, while the girl is dancing for her or something and if they're comfy around each other. I think she may feel less threatened by that.
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    I spent much of this afternoon mulling over the possibilities about telling management. After reflecting on how they seemed to treat the dancers and each other, I've decided against this option. Yeah, they're all mid-20s to 30 something year old males.

    I've also decided that I am going to have to figure out a way to tell her. If it's true that this is some sort of infection or something, I want her to know about it. If she won't have anything to do with me afterward, well, hell I guess it's my own tough "effing" luck.

    The girl-on-girl talk is another possibility, Malibu. I think we'll just see how things work out over the next few days.

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    Infections do not have bathroom smells..instead, it would smell like a bad shrimp. Hehe, my ex used to call some girls with a smell "shrimp pussies."

    My guess is, she is probably drinking while she dances. Alcohol is a diuretic, makes you pee often. Pee itself is sterile, but will begin to smell after she is sitting around and its exposed to air, and mixes with sweat. Also, some dancers do coke or speed on the job. You can't always tell. Amphetamines give you the runs. Thus, she probably needs to wet wipe that concha!
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    I agree, infections don't smell like 'bathroom odour' - they smell fishy or rotten-fishy. There is a big difference. Cupl4Strippers, I would highly advise against telling anyone else at the club, period. You just never know who you're talking to, no matter their age, sex, or whatever.

    The girl definitely needs to know about her odour problem though. She may not have learned about the necessity of baby wipes. How to tell her tactfully is a toughie. If your wife is friendly with her, they could adjourn to the bathroom for a little girl talk. Maybe your wife could pull her aside and ask her if she has any baby wipes, because she needs to use the ladies and doesn't feel fresh and clean if she doesn't use the wipes, and ran out of the ones she carries in her purse. If she says she doesn't have any, then wife just casually comments that she thought all dancers always had those. Or maybe she could just remark that it seems dancers always have those things, so she wonders if dancer could be a doll and let her use one, she ran out, blah blah blah. It may be enough to put the idea in her head....

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    I had BV for awhile and it really only smelled during sex. I was paranoid at work, constantly baby wiping and sniffing my panties all night long like a motherfucker! I guess I just can't imagine a girl not being aware (especially as a dancer) of how her cooch smells! Of course I'm used to working in all nude clubs, so maybe that makes me more conscience of what's going on down there. The whole "bathroom odor" going on down there just sounds odd. you said 1 and 2? Sheesh, not good. And I think Bridgette has a great idea with the whole baby wipe scenario. Go with that.
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    I don't understand how some dancers don't know how they smell either. ??? I constantly use baby wipes at work; between all dances and sets, I'm like obsessive compulsive about cleanliness. I had BV once too and I knew the first DAY that something was not right down there. A girl should not smell like hot garbage in the sun . I took a few days off of work, saw a doctor and it cleared up. I feel guilty saying that it is one thing to have an infection, but it entirely another to smell like #1 and 2..I mean.....seriously? Yikes. That's like lacking elementary cleaning rituals that everyone learns from childhood. If she smells like that, there must be some serious neglect when it comes to simplistic cleanliness like wiping and washing. If it is not an infection, all she has to do to not smell like that is wipe properly and use baby wipes.. It's such an EASY solution, but so difficult to tell someone without offending them! I feel your pain. It would be a good excuse to use the neck/shoulders excuse but this poor girl could be offending LOTS of other customers and missing out on money. She NEEDS to be told, VERY carefully, with a lot of tact. It's nice that you're so understanding and caring about this, Cupl. How about the next time she does it her crotch in your face move, you just make loud overexaggerated retching sounds and tell her she smells like 300 year old wolf p*ssy? Just KIDDING!!! Seriously though, this is what I'd do: The next time she does that move and then the dance is over, what about saying you have to tell her something but you "reaaalllly dont want to," and make her "drag" it out of you. Tell her you didnt know how to tell her this but when she first started dancing for you, she smelled "differently." Of course she'll ask you to elaborate, and then just kind of say the right TACTFUL things "you smelled lighter, a little fresher," etc., so she can draw her own conclusions. You seem very sensitive, and I think you can do this. It really is better if you tell her, and if it were me I would want a customer to tell me like I just suggested to you. Honestly, I'd be embarassed as hell and afraid I would lose you as a customer. So you MUST reassure her about how sexy and beautiful you think she is, and get a few extra dances from her that night to help boost her ego a bit. Good Luck!

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    LMAO! Hot trash! Too funny, I forgot about that term.
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    Just one other thought directed to the ladies. I am somewhat confused when some of the girls were saying that vaginas smell musky and that it was bad? I know we arent supposed to smell fishy or strong, but arent we supposed to smell a little musky? I have done very intimate shows with other women and they always smell the same as I do; it's like the "sex" smell: just..musky, I guess. Many guys say it's a scent that turns them on. It's not strong but it's a very distinct smell. Isnt this how we're supposed to smell? I was a little confused when I read the other posts.

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    eeeeeewwww [puke] thats nasty ....she should know how to clean herself properly....if you can smell her i'm sure she can mell herself ...if it happens to be bacterial vaginosis...she makes good enough money to go see a gynocologist or there are lots of free clinics around...ladies if you ever get a bacterial infection that stinks i suggest you not working until it has cleared up .....if you can smell it what mkes you think others can't...it's not abnormal to have bacterial infections ...but its just plain nasty if you refuse to take care of it....
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