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    I met a charming woman at a SC last night. She was talking to me for over 20 or so minutes without attempting a sale. I do not know how long she had been dancing (30ish), and I am charming (hehehe). I chose not to interrupt her and ask her for a dance simply because the conversation was quite enjoyable as it was, and she appeared to be enjoying it too.

    We were finally interrupted by a person who asked her for a lap dance. My only comment to her was “By all means, go make money.” and was gone before I could tip her. She then departed and was gone awhile. By that time it was getting late and I was tired so I got a few dances from another dancer then left. She made one sale but lost another.

    I realize this may not be an optimal sales technique. Departing for a client who asked her is obviously a wise thing and I have no issues with that choice. I am not a big fan of those whose first words are “Would you like a dance?” but any comments on the optimal sales time before popping the question? What guidlines would be advised on gauging a subjective thing like this. Pointers may help newbies.

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    Default Re: Question about sales style?

    I think it's generally best not to wait more than about 2 songs before asking for a dance, unless the girl thinks the guy will go for a VIP - then spend a bit more time, and you learn to feel when it's a good time to steer the conversation that way. I don't ever spend more than 30 minutes on a guy I'm trying to get to VIP (unless it's someone I know and enjoy, it's slow, and/or he's a regular who always goes for more than one session in VIP or buys more than the minimum). At clubs that only have lap or table dancing, I will spend the extra time in order to get guys to buy 10+ dances from me - sometimes if a guy just wants a few (5 or less) dances, he will ask me for the dance after 10 or 15 minutes, but in that case I rarely wind up doing less than 3 so I figure my time was still well spent.

    Every girl has to get into her own groove, while at the same time considering whether she's maximizing her time or not. At some clubs, 'wannadance' or something not far from it is fine, at others you have to spend a bit more time to make the sale.

    Monty, in the case you describe, I'd say the girl might have really been enjoying the conversation, and was probably also working on more than a couple dances with you. Do they have VIP or champagne room at that club?

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    Never more than three songs for a lapdance customer, and usually less than twenty minutes for a VIP customer, although sometimes longer for regulars.

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    Gotta go with instinct. Win some, you lose some. A couple of times I have gotten over $200 for sitting and talkng with the guy for a while. Wish that happens more often...not counting on it though......

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    I am new to this, so I was wondering how do you actually approach the costumer to sit and have a conversation first. I've had guy friends tell me that " do you mind if I sit down, I'm not used to these shoes" line is used on them all the time, and they don't go for it anymore. Basically what I'm getting at is could anyone make a list of there best lines to avoid the question "wanna dance?" while still getting the point across.
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    Monty, I've had the same thing happen to me, and I always say what you said but follow it with "but hurry back because I'd like some dances too and can't stay too much longer." Then if she comes back we head straight for the dance room.

    Fawn, there's nothing wrong with asking a guy if he'd like some company as long as you don't act pushy. Make eye contact and give him a big smile. If you work in a place where you circulate either to ask for tips or thank people for stage tips, that makes it easier - talk to each person a little first and you can usually get a feel for who likes you. But you have to be prepared for a lot of rejection, just don't take it personally, it goes with the job.
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    NEVER ASK A GUY IF HE WANTS SOME COMPANY!!!

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    Whoa..I'm sorry about that, don't know what happened. Allow me to elaborate:
    If you ask him in that manner, its too passive, and allows him ample opportunity to reject you. Fawn, if you are working in Texas clubs, you have to understand that you will make all of your money from dances. Thus, you need to have a raport with the customer. Just come up to him, bend over, introduce yourself, ask his name and where he is from, and just start shooting the shit.

    Sometimes it helps to have a joke handy. Read his body language, and use your own body language to let him know you want to sit on his lap. Nudge yourself closer and closer, rub your hips against him, touch his upper body with your hands, and make intense eye contact.

    Never ask him what he wants. You know what he wants and you are gonna give it to him!

    Almost 100% of the time, if they like you, they will invite you to stay. Even if that guy does not get dances, other customers will see that you are indemand, actually sitting and chatting with the guys, not moping around. This makes you more desirable.

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    And there is a fine line between pushy and assertive, but it exists, and you MUST be assertive.

    Actually, some guys like the low-self esteem shy wallflower. They think that she will be easily manipulated into giving extras. Don't be that girl and don't deal with those guys. The best customers like a confident gal who can articulate, and be animal in the sack. Convey THAT fantasy and you will profit greatly.

    Pretend you are at a social/networking mixer, and you are starting a business, and are looking for contacts, investors, employees, etc...

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    Katrine, there are obviously a lot of successful dancers who disagree with you because I've had many ask me if I wanted their company. That way they find out right away if I'm insterested in them, rather than possibly wasting a lot of time. If the girl is friendly and asks with a nice smile I will almost always say yes, even if she isn't the one I had my eye on. It really depends on the girl and her style, what works for one may not be right for another.
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    Default Re: Question about sales style?

    If you phrase it differently--"May I sit here?" or "Is this seat taken?", they're less likely to say no.

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    Actually, the answers you get to an invite to sit down do not always dictate whether a customer will spend. I've sat with guys who have shown little/no interest in me and shortly after, they end up blowing all their cash on me. Strange occurences like this have happened more often than even I would have expected. But I believe I got this response because on those occasions, I was obviously polite about their requirement for their own space at the time they felt they needed it.

    As a result, I'm not so picky with the lines I use when I want to sit next to a guy. I just do as I feel. If I want to ask, I do. If not (mostly on busier nights) I don't. It's more natural sounding to a guy if you are just being relaxed instead of thinking out your every line. They'll cotton onto that in the first impression amd it doesn't always work out in your favour when they feel they are being 'worked on'.
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    katrine you can remove those triple posts, use the remove button on the right of your post.
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    It is funny becuse I think she started talking to me out of politeness because she had asked me if I had a pen she could borrow to write down a cute guy's phone number. Having just come from work I had one. Borrowing a pen or lighter or something which requires them to interact with you might be a good ploy to get people talking to you and paying attention.

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    A big smile and a polite and friendly manner will almost always open my wallet, as long as the girl isn't too aggressive or too large (I'm a little guy and don't like to be squashed - LOL). But I do like to sit for a little while and see what's going on first so if the girl approaches as soon as I sit down I'm more inclined to say no.
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    Thanks Velvet!

    There is no sales style rule. Choosing your mark is as qualitative as it is quantitative. Sometimes, I've asked a guy if I could "hang out" with him because I didn't want to sit at the bar with the other dancers cause I didn't want to look lonely, or whatever....different styles work for different ppl.

    Personally, asking for company is just too cliche for me...I prefer to be creative...

    And DEFINATELY, talking to a guy for an extended period of time does not guarantee he will spend....

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    In clubs where we are allowed to sit on guys' laps on the main floor, I have never asked if I could sit on his lap, I just walk right up and do it with a big grin and 'how YOU doin'. No one has ever seemed to mind, and it helps to break the ice faster.

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