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    I'll answer the original question. I've been to just a few clubs. The Orchid, Darlings, & one other club in Vegas. And then the Crazy Horse in SF and the Kit Kat in Sunnyvale, CA. I usually go with my wife, and the dancers seem to like her, and sometimes they undress her. So I'm not going to give you the normal single-guy opinion of a strip club.

    I don't like the Kit Kat because the private dances are not private -- there is merely an open booth, brightly lit, that customers go to. If my wife is going to get felt-up, I'm not real thrilled having 60 other horny guys watching her. Not that this would happen at the Kit Kat anyway. For being the only fully-nude club for miles, it's boringly tame.

    I like the Crazy Horse because it has private areas, so my wife got pretty wicked with a dancer named Lily. By "wicked" I don't mean that we broke laws, but at least at the Crazy Horse they let some touching happen in non-sexual areas. Like if I brushed my hand against her arm, no bouncer showed up and beat us to a pulp. I had roughly the same experience at Little Darlings. They have private "beds" you can go to, and the cute flirt who took me back there said something like "touch my pussy and trouble happens, everything else is OK." I put my hands behind my head and barely touched her at all, but it just put my mind at ease to know she wasn't going to get huffy if I put my hand on her thigh.

    I did not like the Orchid -- with something like 8 tables for dancers, there was a lot of flesh and a lot of customers. But it was all quantity and no quality. Topless only. I got up and left when the 8th overweight, fake-breasted blonde in a row came on stage. Too much whitebread.

    One other thing. My wife and I both always say "no" before saying yes. In other words, if we get a lap dance or private grind session or whatever, it's only after saying no to the girl first. I found that a lot of dancers will be exceptionally rude or curt to a patron the second the patron says no. So we just say no to everyone by default, and then reconsider the nice ones.

    The club in Vegas with the name I can't remember (long bar at the entrance, small stage to the right, big stage beyond that), was pretty good because the women were all pretty (tho it was dark), and they were really grabby on the customers for being just a topless bar, and they seemed to come in pairs. They sat with some of my friends without asking for money. They danced with each other if they didn't have a customer. When I said no, they'd sit and chat for a minute anyway. We all ended up spending a LOT of money there.

    I guess if I had suggestions for strip clubs it would be: have private areas even if your lap dances are innocent; having too many white strippers is boring; keep the lights low but not dark; a few pretty dancers is better than many average ones; don't treat customers like garbage if they say "no" to you; allow a little touching; reign in the prices/fees/scams a little.

    Oh, and be enthusiastic. I don't mean always-smiling and giddy. But dancers with blank stares or who come by and say "wanna dance" without even making eye contact... well no. I'll take the friendly person with the fit body who is able to chat me up a little bit instead.

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    Well, leave it to me to get the name wrong. I think the "Orchid" is actually Olympic Gardens or whatever it's called (it's the one with the female strippers on the first floor, and the male strippers on the second floor).

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    Default I would be a typiical customer I think

    I'm an old fat man with a small xxxxxx
    I'm also married!

    I won't jump on that "I'm so successful crap" I've heard out of others but I will say that I have a hobby and can afford it.

    I've owned other types of nightclubs where I had my first introduction to "dancers" which got me involved in the first place. I've also been fortunate enough to travel and visit clubs all around the country.

    Hands down the club scene in Houston, Texas offers the best all around selection of young beutiul ladies at middle income affordability. For those with more to spend it offers everything imaginable at affordable prices.

    It also has ladies that will take you and your wallet for a ride you'll never forget if your not careful.

    Topless or Nude. $1 to $30 dances. It has it all.

    My personal favorite were Treasure's and Michaels International. I do some export that involves customers traveling to the US to visit and I always entertained them at those clubs.



    Orlando Florida offers the wort experiences in my opinion. Large beutiful clubs and great looking ladies but overburdened with management

    Miami has it all as well as Houston but for me there are many language barriers in the clubs. The accents on a lot of the ladies are too much for these old ears to pick through over the club music.

    I have a difficult time meeting ladies!

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    Not an easy question, because it is the club owner & management who set the tone.
    Mitchell Brothers in San Francisco used be a club that was fun like a party. But as the Owners raised the price from $10 $40 admission price raised the girl’s stage fee to $400,
    And added $2 a minute booths. It takes most the fun out of it. Doing away with stage fees would help a lot. My best thing that keeps me going back to clubs is a charming girl who knows how to dance and I don’t mean posers I mean pro dancers. Unfortunately in San Francisco the Owners can charge these high fees because they know the tourist will pay the fees. But as a native why spend that kind of money when I can have a girl come give me a private dance at my home or hotel. When it cost 40 + 2 x 20 for the booth and $100 for the private show that’s almost $200. For a few dollars more I can get my own private show and most of the money goes into the dancers pocket not the owners. A sucker is born every minute I’m not one of them. What city and state and kind of club do you dance in?

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    Well I am not sure I am the normal customer and I say this because I hear the typical complaint from guys I go with is that they dont like the girls all coming around and hasseling them for pvt dances. For me I have actually been in plenty of places and was sitting there trying to decide whether I should get up and bother that girl ,,, I go there not for the sports tv, free food, beer, music selection, or anything other than wanting to meet talk to and have dances from sexy looking girls. And I have met alot of very nice girls too. I cant stand these guys who are in there with there one dollar bills and complain about all those things. But as I say I guess I am not the norm. There is a club near me that is closed on Mon, tues is two for night,,, 2 dollar beer,, 2 dances for 20, etc... and it is crowded that night. but on Wed they have these very erotic and sensual shower shows,,,, two girls putting whipped cream on eachother etc. then showering and sponging ,, making out etc.... it is dead on Wed,,,,, so u see the guys would rather have the cheap drinks than the good entertainment,,, but as for me ,,, I love wed,,,, LOL anyway ,,, tongiht is my first time here and I think this site is awesome ,,, I wish I could contact the sexy stripper I met in Minneapolis at Shieks a couple weeks ago ,,,, damn I think I fell in love after 2 one hour prvts,,, Tasha are u out there??? LOL

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    There used to be this bikini club where girls danced on the floor for tips. When they came up to me ,I'd usually boogie along with them. I became quite popular with it both among the male customers and the dancers.
    Later they put up fixed tables and barracades that prevented any direct interaction. It could have been because of legal issues or just the management didn't think his employees (the girls were from an outside agency) were cashing in on enough of the tips. Anyway the attendance really dropped, they stopped the other agency's shows and put in a topless stage corral in addition.
    I think they really had a winning gig in the beginning. I don't know why they changed their format. Anyway I hardly attend there anymore.

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    In a dream world, I would get cheap laps($10),nude with alcohol like canada.

    The girls would all look hot and be friendly.

    In recent times there is a lot of love lost between the customers(including me) and my home club.It used to be almost perfect. It had 8-10's whos did extras at all times, girl-girl shows, clean ,nice VIP rooms. However a small percentage of the girls working there had "pirncess" attitudes and thought they were the shit and bag of chips.

    The reecession now has knocked the tudes' down but a recent stage fee hike has made the girls evermore mercenary and less pleasant. If this is to continue all the gems that us PLs put up with to see them will leave, then the club will lose its rep for being one of the best in the country and nobody will attend that club.
    whats a PL to do?

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    Orlando Florida offers the wort experiences in my opinion. Large beautiful clubs and great looking ladies but overburdened with management
    Amen to that, brother. The REAL problem in Orlando is the LAWS! The political group that run the two counties that make up the majority of Central Florida (Orange and Seminole County) are run by good-ol-boy religious-right do-gooders, who would drop dead if a beautiful dancer put a nice set of boobs in their face! The laws here are so ludicrous here that there is a statute as to how much rear-end cleavage a dancer can show.

    That having been said, I think the best clubs are the ones with dancers who enjoy their work, and aren't fighting over every customer to extract every last nickel. I'm in sales, so I know how important it is to maximize a sale, but by no means do you do it at the expense of 'customer service'. I've been to clubs with friends who I've not seen in a while, and been interrupted while having a conversation by a dancer who literally YELLED at me for not paying attention to her. Last time I checked, *I'm* the customer, and the club is a social gathering place.

    Ladies, all of you who post here appear to be nice people who know how to handle the crowds out there, but I think the problem is that there are too many dancers out there that are just in it for the quick buck, and don't care about how they do their job. If you were an actor, and you didn't act well, would you get offered a lot of acting roles? Of course not. Same thing applies here. In essence, dancers are actors (actresses) who are auditioning before every customer to win the role of their 'girlfriend' or what have you.

    The uber-clubs that cram a hundred girls in on a Saturday night are doing a disservice to their employees AND their customers, because I'd be willing to bet that 75-80% or more of the dancers are so busy concentrating on how to get more money out of the customers that they're not focusing on how to *REALLY* get more money out of the customers -- by paying attention to them. Read the body language and adjust accordingly. It's simple sales.

    Anyway, I'll climb down off my soapbox now.

    Just my $.02 worth...

    Call me ][shmael

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    Overall the club I go to is well run. My problem is wanting to go too much.

    Things I hate...

    the dj that thinks he is an MC and people pay to come in to listen to him talk. Some of his rants go on for 10 minutes or more. Just shut up, introduce the girls and play music. You are costing the ladies money! And keeping me from getting my dances in.

    the sound system in the Platinum Room. Only one channel and you hear everything the DJ is saying on the main floor. All you should hear is music and dancer x stand by main. The DJ worked so hard trying to pump up a crowd one night, it gave me a headache for 2 hours.

    I'd like a more standardized song length. The weekday DJ plays shorter songs. The weekend guy longer ones but there are more "dance interruptions."

    I wish the majority of the girls would treat what they do more like a business. They would make more than if they just skim the cream. By this I mean they need reasonably regular hours or a way for a customer to contact them. 14 out of 17 dancers tried were because the girl I wanted did not show. Who wants to drive 2.5 hours and be disappointed your fav took the night off. Fortunately, I'm able to arrange all my play dates in advance now and have been doing so for some time. It makes a huge difference.

    I like the rules...

    No soliciting at the tip rail. (A safe place for a customer not to be hustled)

    A girl can't approach a customer if he is already engaged in conversation with another dancer. (the customer needs to know this so he can excuse himself if he sees the girl he wants.)

    Girls involved in a fight are both terminated. No questions.

    Girls performing extras are terminated.

    No drink hustle.

    Girls pay rent only. $35

    No stage fees.

    Dancers keep everything from private dances. This goes a long way towards preventing ultra high pressure hustles.

    Girls can spend as much time with a customer as they want. No 5 minute/ move on rule.

    Once an hour they have a 2 for 1 sale where the customer gets a "free porno." This can help most girls on a slow night. At least they get customers into the VIP for dances and hopefully keep them going after. I don't like them simply because it forces my girl to leave and go up on stage even if she is just coming back to me. It consumes 10-20 minutes out of every hour. It doesn't stop me from going though.

    It's a juice bar. That doesn't prevent problems from the drunks coming in. I prefer it simply because if I'm getting lots of dances, I want to be sober and enjoy the dances and be able to converse as well.
    When the man says, "I do," it is the happiest day of her life.-Al Bundy

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    It's not as complicated as everyone makes it. There are only 2 reasons I will go back to a club,If it has very hot girls or very hot lapdances,prefer both. I have 4 clubs I go to for the most part....1 has the best looking girls in town and the lappers are so-so and I hardly get dances here....2 has some decent dancers,better laps and a very laid back atmospehre with no pressure,good for drinking and some laps...3 not the greatest dancers in town but best laps..nuff said....4 would be my travel club some hot dancers and very dirty laps....if I lived closer I would only go there.

    All the other stuff is minor but I would agree that clean bathrooms,no shot girls/bathroom attendents,cut songs would be at the top of my list.

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    This is a reply to post 10 by Rochelle. It may be a bit late but better than never. Yes, I agree with you that good guys come in last. The fact that the bad ones prevail are testimony to the fact that there is a support structure for them. Like from my high school days. The cockiest , machoist, most conceited went around with the cheerleaders. They were the first to get married (also the first to get divorced). But they only retain their bad guy status with help of their groupie accomplices,in this case-the women.
    So the only reason we have bad guys or girls is because we put them there. It doesn't really bother me that much since if that's the person they're looking for ,they can have it. But, here's the stickler. You're doing the same thing!
    By tipping a girl that treats you like shit, dances lousy, is unresponsive to respectful manners you encourage their behavior! There's nothing saying you have to tip someone who is disrespectful or a lousy dancer or aggressive hustler. If you don't like the way they treat you, dance for you, turn them away and certainly don't tip them. It isn't necessary to stoop to their level to remain popular with them. Why would you want to be with them in the first place? Being a nice guy simply means you have different values.

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