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    This isn't meant to sound racist or anything, but has anybody else had a disproprtionately large number of Mexican customers who try to become too "friendly"?

    Maybe it is just me, or my club or something, but I find it disturbing.

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    Yes, and they seem to be the first ones who try to yap you into changing your mind! Some of them work my last good nerve. It's not a negotiation! Keep your hands and mouth off me unless you really want me to stand on your hands in these shoes and stuff a sock in your mouth. Which costs extra, BTW. And the faster and louder they talk, the more time AND $$ they're wasting. My clock is still ticking while they're wheelin' and dealin'. 4-5 minutes later, time's up, dance is over, I got their money and they're still running their mouths and wondering why.

    White guys (IMHO) will pay attention to a "no" and sit still and behave for the most part. They waste more time trying to negotiate up front, though. Middle Eastern guys try to look all sly like "it wasn't me, I didn't do it" then get sheepish and try to apologize if you call them on it. Black guys I've rarely--if ever--had a problem with getting grabby. If they do, they still wake up and pay attention to "no," but complain more than white guys afterward. Asians aren't interested in me at all so I don't worry about how they behave.

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    Well, I suppose it wouldn't bother me as much, but I am a little "thicker" than the other girls at my club, and apparently that is the reason why I seem to have developed a big Mexican following. Which, you know, is nice in that there are plenty of them coming in with money. But dammit - they need to learn to keep their hands to themselves.

    Several years ago, I worked Follies in Atlanta, GA, and they had many many Mexicans in there. But since I wasn't their "favorite", I did not have to worry with it so much.

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    I attract alot of latin guys also. Strip clubs in Mexico are brothels, so I'm sure that influences Mexican customers' thinking. Also, Mexican men are outrageously macho, and that definitely makes a difference - they automatically disregard "no" from a female in that environment. BUT, I find that this is mainly true for Mexican travellers and recent immigrants. Those who were born/raised here usually know better.

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    Well, the other girlies decided finally to break it down and brush me up on my Spanglish again.

    Let's see... the current roster of phrases learned... the Spanish rough-translations of...

    "I'm not a whore"
    "Knock it off"
    "Where's my money"
    "Fuck your mama"
    "Go away"


    There's more to learn, for sure, but apparently one or more of these works well if it is emphasized with a balled fist waved under their nose.

    The bouncer told me himself that next time I should just boot them n the head or elbow them or something - he said the other girls had to develop the reputation of being ones "that hit" before the guys started behaving themselves. So I suppose that's how I'll have to do things, but I muct admit that I dislike it - it can freak out the customers who are already well-behaved. Very unlady-like and all.

    Anyways.....
    At least last night they all sat on their hands for a change.

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    McCain,

    What I do, instead of hitting them, is to give a good girl scream and run backwards a couple steps (takes a little practice, but can be very sexy.. think Marilyn Monroe). Then turn to the bouncer and say "Hep, help, he tried to molest me!"

    It works for me, and it keeps your image for the other customers.

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    LOL! Right on Lena. I can just see some bystanding customer wetting his pants to save you from the big bad monster! I'm gonna have to work on one of those

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    Absolutely! That could be a good tactic. I'll need to work on it,, though - my girly screams need development. They usually sound more like someone being murdered.

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    I totally agree with this thread, and have another suggestion. I tell the security in advance when I know one of these guys is going to try to mess with me and have him come over at the first sign of trouble and say something loud enough for the rest of his group to hear but not to be broadcasting throughout the whole club - and he also warns me. Then I stick around and flirt, and if they dare try anything again I tell them I'm going to loose my job if they keep it up - then they'd never see me again! Works like a charm, and it gets the guys to keep paying cause they think I'd do more if I was "allowed".

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    McCain,

    Not picking on you at all, so don't feel offended. You stated that alot of Mexicans tend to grab. Up here where I am theres also a large Portugues population (I on't mean to stereo type either). However alot of them live in this small run-down city in Mass. and alot don't have a education, and mosty all are blue collar tyep workers.

    Would you say its more the blue collar AND not so well educated types??????

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    Sorry, shouldn't say Blue collar, should say more lower-class, low income people......again not trying to offend anyone

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    And here I thought this only happened where I worked, It got so bad in my club that we have posted the rules in spanish and taped them on the front of the stage in plain view LOL and I too hate to stereotype but the mexican clientel is usually the only one we have a really big problem with, granted there's and asshole in every bunch no matter the ethnicity but when 95% of one ethnic group acts the same what can you do?
    I'd love to fuck your brains out.......But apparently someone already beat me to it......

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    I think the distinction is cultural mexicans and not racial mexican. Strip clubs in most other countries are places of prostitution. Not only that but what is considered acceptable behavior varies from culture to culture. Men from Mexico still carry those ideas with them I'd assume. Whereas mexicans raised here shouldn't.

    Lauren -> LOL!!! Great idea! I like it that they think you wish you could do more!

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    Where I am (canada) it's the Yanks who are more grabby. And financial situation doesn't seem to matter. Or age.
    christ, I can't wait to take over the world

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    I have worked in many clubs with lots of Hispanic customers. I also have danced for a year in Houston where all customers want extras and the club owners don't care.

    I am black myself and don't discriminate against any races. As hard as dances are to sell nowadays I just smile and gracefully move their hands. of course they will want to touch your hips and legs, but if I am in a contact club and they try to touch more i just nicely move their hands and say that we'll get in trouble if i let you do that and that the cops have been in lately, so just sit back and let me give you a good dance.

    You don't want to be arrogant or you'll not sell repeated dances to them just think as a guy would. These guys all want something for their money. If they feel you aren't giving it to them they will buy dances from someone who will.

    in the no contact clubs you won't have much problem as the floor guys are watching the dances anyway.

    Just don't alienate the customers. Don't let them finger fuck you or rip your titties off but don't make them put their hands behind their backs either. You want them to buy dance after dance and if they are not gratified they won't.

    Whatever customer has money, smelly, or whatever, it's our job to make it and make the guys feel that they had good dances when we're done. If they only buy one dance but could afford more, we're not doing our job as dancers.

    As the old saying goes, to get what you want you've got to give other people what they want.

    In Houston when guys take their dicks out (which is common there), I look them right in the eye and say, "Bad Boy", you know there are cameras in here and vice has been in lately. Do you want us to go to jail?
    Zip your pants back up and sit back. I guarantee you I'll give you a really erotic dance that will turn you on. Even when they want extras, I still can get 2 dances out of them with that approach unless they are the gangbanger types.

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    I work in Arkansas and can agree with the Mexicans but have to realy agree with the cant keep a job types. Like Lena's idea and will have to work on the girlie scream! :o

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    Default G-Real - Your theory

    I don't think the theory that it is more of the blue-coller, under-educated types who are problematic, as opposed to a cultural or racial group. My reason for this is that 85% of the clientele coming into my club would be classified as blue-collar, and probably 70-75% would be considered undereducated. Now, Mexican males constitute 20-25% of our customer base. Out of all of our customers, I have problems with an average of 10% of our customers, and almost every one of the customers who caused me trouble was Mexican. As of yet, I have only had 3 white men, and one Asian man, cause me issues, and those four were obviously a little more affluent than our average clinetele.

    So this should explain why I cannot concur with the theory that perhaps the more troublesome population is simply men who are low-income or under-educated.

    I cannot say that would be true for all areas or all clubs, just that it is true for the one in which I work.

    McCain

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    I agree that Mexican men are the most macho, and super feminist. I am 100% mexican and I have never dated a Mexican because of these reasons. Every now and then I visit fam in Mexico City, Mex and hate how the men come on to me. I love my country very much but the mexican macho thing has to go!!!!!!!!

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    Any guy NO WAY, (on the floor.) while i am working, do not touch me. I do however let them rub legs, and feet, shoes, hair ect. while on stage. NO tits or ass. Pull my panty a bit i don't mind when i am down on the stage floor, because its not coming off. But on the floor, no way. Stage yep. But NEVER private parts. Pamela

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    I've danced in Las Vegas the last 3 years, the reason why stereotypes exist is because most, not all, but most people live up to them. There is a great deal of every race at clubs here, and I may be cutting my income a bit but I don't approach every guy that walks in the door. I size em up as I see them. I only approach people that look friendly, approachable, check out their body language. And I do shy away from certain races from previous experiences. That's just the way it is. Alot of guys I deal with are from all over the world and in many other countries women are on a very different level. They come here with some bad manners at times. So rather than frustrate myself with them I just pass them by. Makes my day alot nicer and less stressful.

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    I don't think that this just applies to Mexicans, but really to Hispanic men. I've know Cubans and Puerto Ricans who are more grabby than guys from Mexico.

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    Now that "guest" has thrown us Puerto Ricans to the lions I must reply. It all depends on the club. If the club does not allow grabbing and other forms of contact, we surely do not. If the club does allow it, well it's up to the respective clients. In my case, in El Alcázar in Isabela clients are allowed to grab butts and some dancers allow clients to grab their breasts. I, of course, take advantage of this. In Divas in San Juan, however, one cannot and I don't risk being thrown out by the bouncers. In this club's VIP's I've been able to touch and caress my ATF except in her private parts.



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    LOL canada.. thatd be a great place to strip.. the guys seem to be alot more nicer there You will however get your jerk offs..


    Theres always a guy or two trying to "Cop a feel" or "get more for their money" but i was born and raised there and im fond of that place.. when i moved to the US I noticed the attitude difference in people was huge.


    If i have trouble with a guy i will say to him.. You see that big bulky bouncer over there? YEs? good.. because if you do that again ill get him to come over here and throw you out! Now act like a gentlmen!



    Ps. Yanks.. LOL gotta love that

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    WE HAVE HAD THAT PROBLEM SOOOOO MUCH IN THE PAST THAT THE DJ STARTED MAKING COMMENTS OVER THE MIC LIKE, "NO GUYS, THERE ARE NO FREE TACO'S WITH YOUR DANCE" I AM NOT RACIAL AT ALL BUT IT SURE DOES SEEM LIKE THE MEXICAN'S ARE THE FIRST AND THE WORST AT TRYING TO GROPE YOU.



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    Funny I started reading this post at work today, cuz we had two Mexicans in today. I asked one if he was interested in some dances, and he whispered in my ear that he was interested in F***ing. Well, I promptly told him I didn't do that, and that it was illegal. His next response was "how about 2000 for just you and me?" I repeated that sex for money was illegal and walked off. Well, his buddy went to tip my friend on stage and told her to "open her pussy". She refused, and he yelled "I said open your f***in pussy!" Well, she basically told him fuck off, and stormed off to find the manager, which I had already told about what they'd said to me. He went to throw em out, but they were already gone.

    And, yes, Hispanic gentlemen in general are VERY grabby, but I've seen many white guys do it to. I just think we notice it more when it's someone of another race.
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