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    So, I've been working a little less lately and as a result, missed my best regular a couple of times. Anyway, I saw him yesterday. He had many interesting things to say about my co-workers. Appearantly this little Brazilian hustler-girl completely bad-mouthed me to him. Not as a person, per se, but she talked major shit about the size of my tits (appearantly they're too big) and according to her, I look too fake in general. Obviously, this was her tactic to try to win him. It didn't work, though. He didn't even give HER a dollar yesterday. I was SO PISSED that I told him that I don't share customers with her and if he ever had her dance for him again, I wouldn't dance for him anymore. I know it was super-immature, but I couldn't help myself. EVERYONE I work with knows I'm way cool about sharing customers and even getting my customers to buy dances for me from other girls, helping them make money. I know that this particular girl is known for shit-talking and that maybe she's jealous because her tits look like old, stretched out gym socks; but I thought it was a cardinal rule to not shit-talk the other girls to customers, especially regulars like him. So what should I do; confront her, beat her ass, or leave it alone?!? I don't have any idea to handle this. ???

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    Hey Heather! Hee hee! Its ME Leigh, we gotta stop meeting like this people are gonna start to talk LOL!
    I would in general NOT beat her ass, (much as this would feel soooooooo good, but never an answer) but I would be so above it she will feel like the ultimate loser that she is.
    In passing, like say when you are in the dressing room at the same time as her, while applying your lip gloss or what ever that "oh hey fluffy, you met my regular "JOHN DOE" the other day...huh?" "Nice guy isnt he?" "did ya like him?" "Yah I know, he told me *all* about it...glad you made a new friend, well see ya on the floor...tah tah"

    Smiling at her and holding the eye contact just a nanosecond longer than necessary before you stroll out. I would never mention it again.
    She obviously has an inferior complex to break you down to a customer to build herself up so u need not "punish" her or whatever. She still has to wake up every morning - look in the mirror and realize....SHIT she is still her. What a bummer. LOL!
    I would also like to mention some guys LIVE for this shit and he may be trying to stir you up. I cant speak for anyone but I do know I have seen guys try to get catfights happening out of the pure peverse pleasure if it. Sometimes guys are worse than chix in the catty department. Rise ABOVE, they hate that. heh heh!!
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    Well this guy is a REALLY old man (Anna Nicole's husband old). So, he probably isn't trying to start any drama. Although, you never know, some of those old-timers are pretty feisty!
    As for your advice, I think that's exactly what I'll do. Probably the best thing to do in this situation. Although I can't help but fantasize about dragging her around the club by her uni-brow!
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    You can beat her ass and go to jail, lose your job etc.. Or if you are a good enough hustler and dancer you would not let it bother you! The best dancers are not intimidated by others. Especially other dancers who "talk shit." It's just that simple. You dance long enough you WILL lose customers to other dancers. And you will gain others, maybe from other dancers as your regulars. It's all in the hustle! Pamela

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    Or if you are a good enough hustler and dancer you would not let it bother you! Pamela
    Thanks Pamela. That was really nice. ???
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    Heather
    u are way better than that
    all she did was make herself look like and asshole!
    i have a girl at work that tries to do the same thing, everytime i'm not there she right on my customers......they know where they got it good......i would never say they could'nt get dances elsewhere, u dont want to stoop to her shit eating level....just smile and be gracious......u get more flies with honey, honey!
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    her unibrow? HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!
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    Really Heather, that is the better side of any person. Since we are dancers not kick boxers or generally mean people, the best choice is to be a great dancer by just walking away! Don't let other people (dancers) bother you. This is advice that comes with experience. If i let other dancers bother me, i would be quiting clubs all the time. Let it roll off your back. Be a dancer, like you truly are! Pamela

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    You have to ignore this girl. First of all fighting in (or outside) the club is just trashy, and you certainly don't want that reputation. She has already cemented her image as a trashy dancer when she publicly insulted you!
    Secondly most guys say they think a catfight is sexy, but when it really comes down to it, they will never again associate with a dancer who is a known troublemaker. That not only includes fighting, but bitchy comments as well. This is especially true for your big spenders. They just don't need that kind of drama. Hell, more than half of them are married and getting it at home. That is why they come to see us at the club. To escape. Let them and you will be laughing all the way to the bank!

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    never lower yourself by stooping to somebody else's low level.

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    Hey Heather,

    I had a similar, well sort of, experience last night. I just started working @ a club in a new city I just moved to six weeks ago. They raised their private dance prices last night. Already, there has been bad mouthing from regular customers on other boards about the prices and how they were not going to frequent our club anymore.

    Anyway, here is my situation. Because of the price increase, customers were scarce and there were way more dancers. The customers were so few that you were lucky to have two at your stage. I had two customers at my stage and one was tipping well. Right in front of me and right after he tipped me a big bill, a house dancer took him away from my stage!! Another dancer told a customer who said he was waiting for me to do a dance,that she didn't know my name or if I was even working there!! She ended up taking my dance while I was getting ready to dance for him!

    She asked me later what my name was! The bitch knew. We met the prior week!

    I quit, on good terms earlier today. There are tons of clubs in LA. The manger didn't want to see me go and she said that I should name those dancers, but from experience,i.e. having my car vandalized, girls talking more shit to customers, I decided to bail.

    Maybe that is a cowards way out, but that is an unspoken rule in every club I have ever worked in. You just don't pull people from your stage while a dancer is performing. Plus, I am new and have no allies. This will be the first time ever that I didn't have a friend or some kind of contact of in at a certain club.

    How do you guys feel about it when another dancer takes guys from your stage when they are obviously into your show?

    Cheers,

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    It's hard to know what to do in a situation like that. I heard a girl at my club peed in another dancers bag after something similar happened to her. Obviously something neither you or I would do, but kinda funny in a Jerry Springer sort of way. :o
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    Well, I think I did the right thing. I would rather have a rest with no pay than to have to go out and buy a new bag because someone took a pee in it

    Some of the girls were just ghetto enough to do that!


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    Guys do not want to come to their favorite club and hear girls bad-mouthing other girls. They do realize what is happening and in turn, will usually not spend money on the girl who is doing the talking.
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    omg, peed in her bag?

    Holy shizer batman, thats nasty!

    I remember in China another girl was her turn to head home ( we all arrive at different times and leave at staggered times everyone puts in 2 months) and she hated one girl enough that before she left I was helping her pack up long after the other girls had gone back to the apt that night and she took the girls perfume bottle off the counter at her station, unscrewed the pump atomizer and emptied half the perfume out and peed in it back up to the level it was!!! I was horrified but I couldnt help but laugh my freaking ASS off!

    Thing was that girl was such a freaking Beeyatch, she stole food, make up, tips, she would trip out all the time about how horrible everything was she would buddy up with one girl and tell all kinds of untruths to her that everyone else said about her and then the girl would say stuff in defense then she would run to all the other girls and tell them the things SHE said HOLY HIGH SCHOOL, but hell was constantly breaking loose with this freak stirrin' shit up!

    Needless to say I never said word one about the perfume switcheroo - but alas I never got the pleasure of seeing her spray it on either though I would assume she must have at one time or another YUK!
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    Daisa has an excellent point-the guys really don't want to deal with this.

    I recently went through something similar, I just changed clubs-and thankfully have a loyal following. One of my best regulars was in one night, and while I was in the back after getting off stage-one of the girls (who barely knows me!) began talking to him, telling him I had a boyfriend etc..
    I of course was furious-she knows nothing of my personal life-let alone to "describe" it to a customer, but I didn't stoop to her level, and he knew she was playing games...

    He used to do a few dances with her, but that has now stopped and I get the extra $$$. Karma

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    I had problem since day 1....my stage name is Heather, was Heather, until this girl put the biggest stink about that being her REAL name and so it confused her. I stayed with it a few more days but got tired of hearing her bitch ALL THE TIME so I changed it to Angel (a customer asked me my name, and I told him but he didn't hear me, or forgot, and he started a drunken ramble about how I looked Angelic, and all night called me Angel, the DJ heard and next set he here's Heather, our Angel )
    Same girl, next night....two guys came in early, sat around forever, no one went to sit with them because they didn't seem to be spending and were drinking water. I got on stage, they came up and I made close to twenty dollars off these two my first set!!! They asked me to sit with them when I got off-stage. I got down, changed my dress and went to sit down....and that girl was there. I didn't want to cause probs, there were two of them, so I sat down on the other side. When they left, she grabbed me in the dressing room and flipped her lid! Saying I tried to take her customer etc. The guy was so obviously more interested in me! She ended up getting a shower ($300 dance in a shower) from the guy I sat with.
    So the rest of the night, I sat with EVERY customer she had, she let up on me after that.
    I hate catty girls!

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    Oh LittleOne, that's horrible. You shouldn't have had to change your stage name just due to her. Some women can be so catty-it's pretty sad

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    on of my ATFs used to talk shit all the time. When we were first getting aquainted I made a comment that I didn't smoke and I hated smoky girls. She immdediately stated how ALL the other dancers go upstairs to the dressing room and smoke making her hair stink.(this is in SF, CA ,smoking ban in public). I just said nothing cuz I took as her way to compete with all the extra girls at the club while she was strictly DDE (doesn't do extras)

    I really like her but I hate when she sees me with other girls and later makes comments like "Soooo, you had a private with HER huh?"
    whats a PL to do?

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    I consider it a complement when I find out girls are saying something about me to customers. It means they're intimitdated by me because I bank and they don't. I appear to be having a good time with all my customers wether I am or not and that makes the angry negative girls pissed. They know they can't compete and so they do the only thing they can do and that's to criticise me to other customers. I just think it's funny. They're gossiping about me while I'm getting all the dances. Ahhhh, it's lonely at the top. LOL

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    Never had a customer taken from my rack, but I send you empathy. That would suck. I'm the when-at-home very chillin, but sensitve-type. . . . Staring at the moon (hopefully it would be there for me) I'd dribble at tear. Luckily, inspiration and transformation being a godsend -- my dreams wyould erase it and lift my confidence. Bonne Chance; And think nothin of it, You don't need her, or that. They are but mere holograms....
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    Heather,
    Just remember, she has to spend the rest of her life being her, and there is no revenge you can come up with that would be worse than that.

    And when you think about it, chances are she's going to pop out a few kids from unknown fathers and they're going to grow up to be just as evil and tacky as her and she's going to have to put up with them, too.

    See, no need to kick her ass. Life and karma have done that for you already.

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    I had a similiar situation happen to me a few months back.. only this dancer bad mouthed me IN FRONT of my customer. You can imagine how infuriated I was!!! But, I was as classy as ever, and I just looked at her, and glanced at my customer and politely said, "I'm sorry, you just interrupted our conversation, please apologize to (insert customer's name) and if you'd like to speak to me later, please do so when I am downstairs".

    She spouted off about something, then walked off, my customer was completley embarrassed, but then mentioned that this girl had big issues and then he apologized for her.

    I was lucky in this circumstance because, the manager was two seats away when this happened, he witnessed the entire thing.

    Later, while downstairs, she decided to spout off to me again and then I ripped into her, but I did it tactfully, and without raising my voice. Right afterwards, the manager called her in the office and fired her for bad mouthing another girl on the floor in front of a customer.

    Always be calm and collect and if you have to get angry, do it after you've had time to think about it and sort your thoughts.. this girl you work with sounds like a major problem child, she's obviously jealous, and if you are good hustler, dancer and able to run circles around her, don't let her bother you. The more you show her you aren't bothered by it, the more it will bother her.


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    im kind of curious to why he even told you about it. iF HE IS a older gentleman, he SHOULD consider the source and MOVE ON.
    its nice to know sometimes who is saying what about who, but frankly, i wouldn't like to know.

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    Heather: Obviously, if he is a regular of yours, he doesn't give a rat's what any other dancer says about you. Why sweat it? The first chance he had to lap you again, he did, didn't he? No damage done, except that the Brazilian gal made herself look like an ass.

    Your mistake, though, was telling the customer whom he could and could not get a lap with. That's unacceptable: had you tried that with me, I would have cut you off as well. I recently had to deal with this stripper s**t at a secondary club I go to--there are very few guys who spend a lot of money there (mostly just 2-for-1 cheapos and even then get only one dance). There were four dancers I had planned to get laps from, and two of them started to fight over me when one got to me while the other was onstage. After that, the second dancer refused to talk to me the rest of the night. I found out why shortly thereafter and made it clear to everyone involved that when I come to the club, I'm there to see everyone I want to see and always bring enough $$$ for everyone, too. Situation over. You gals seem to forget you're selling a fantasy, and no of few men whose fantasy involves women pissing and moaning about other women, or threatening to withhold laps and/or attention.

    To Corey: While I certainly agree it is poor dancer etiquette to approach a railside customer and ask for a lap, a dancer could not "take" me away if I did not want to go. Relax, finish your set, wait for him to finish his set, and then approach him. Unless that dancer just made him come, he'll get laps from you, too.

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