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    I need some help. I'm meeting with this guy tonight who says he can get me work as an escort and I don't have to have intercourse...just other stuff.

    I've never done this before...How do I ensure my safety being alone with a client (stranger)? How do I know this guy isn't a cop? What is the standard "take" on his end?

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    I have looked into the world of escorting just to see how different companies and independant women work.

    I called a company not far from me about escort work. Owner said dress in lingerie under normal clothes, get out of normal clothes and massage him. Pay was $200 per hour. Eat, drink, smile have great conversation, and if you have sex, i don't want to know about it. good way of sving butt i guess. However generous tips are excepted.

    Anyway, first and very important BlondieNYC, meet this guy in a very public place, and drive your own vehicle.
    Another tip, you can't ensure your safety. You just can't. If he is a cop, should there be worry ? Do you plan on having sex. I know sounds dumb, but some girls have said they don't, and i really don't know about that part.

    I have heard from another company (don't hold me to this) that if you are getting a fee up-front for say dinner, conversation and dancing, all the things most do on a normal date, you are good to go, you should not get busted. If he asked you to have sex, and he pays you for the act, your busted. Anytime money is exchanged for ANY type of sexual act, you can get busted.

    Paying you for a date is one thing, sex is a whole other game.
    Be careful. Escorts are known for sex for money.

    It's a dangerous game from what i have learned.

    And you say this guy....Does he have a company ? Or more like a 'pimp' do you think?

    Guys expect sex when they pay for escorting services. Again, please be careful. Follow your gut instinct.

    Pamela

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    Sounds fishy to me. I've never used the services of an escort, so I'm speaking from a certain level of ignorance. I just find it hard to believe that "other stuff" won't eventually lead to pressure for intercourse. I agree with Pamela, once you're alone with the guy, it will be extremely hard to ensure your personal safety. I say do what your instinct is telling you to do, because your first instinct is usually right.

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    I have done some escort work. "Money is for time and companionship only". "Anything else is a mutual personal choice". However I am always prepared for a very intimate encounter.

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    Suzy can i ask a question ? How do escorts get around the money for sex thing. Is sex part of the money already paid by the customer, that is if you want to have sex. And no one gets in trouble ?

    If he tips you after sex, is it illegal ? I was probably told the wrong information.

    Thanks,
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    When I worked in a local club here ,we had liquor board meetings twice a year and they always said that even if you tell a guy you will meet him for any reason, that is solicitation and you can get busted, and the liqour board is up on all legalities because it can result in the club losing the liquor license.

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    What you need to do first off since you don't know this guy really well is to get a f-girl this with you. A f-girl is a friend girl though there are six million terms usually just a friend you trust, doesn't even have to be a girl who will record tag # of guys car, phone number he has contacted you from, date-time-location of ur meeting with the guy and this will be the girl who will call you when ur time is up. This person is someone who knows who you are with and when. THis person may also be the person who you give your money to if you have collected it upfront. Sometimes this person will wait immediately outside for you or they may simply know where you are and call in to check on you. Be careful with whatever you choose.
    "Come what may although I often say realities come from dreams, but approach all lies with open eyes because NOthing in this world is EVER ALL it seems."

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    Thanks for all the advice, girls...so far this is the easiest work I have ever done! These guys are lonely, dorky, but not bad looking guys who just really need some companionship...kinda sad...I feel like I'm doing charity work and making a buck.

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    http://www.inhispocket.com
    I came across this website the other day due to the e-book it was selling. The e-book sounds intriguing. :o

    It is actually quite true that there are plenty of escorts that do not have sex at all with any customers. The way Elisa (the inhispocket.com site girl) says it is something like this: Escorting is about companionship (dinner, dancing, conversation), back rubs (massages ONLY if you are licensed) and lingere modelling (NOT getting nude.. just stripping down to lingere to do the back rub).

    The legal professional independant escorts usually get the guy to sign a contract stating the terms of the arrangement. If you don't get nude or do anything to overtly sexual... you should be safe.

    My club offers something similiar to an Escort service where if the guy books a dancer for a min. of 3 hours (pre-paid) he gets the option of having her accompany him to public places such as the local casino (only 1 casino on the Gold Coast), niteclubs, pubs, restaurants. The customer also gets unlimited lap dances in that time INSIDE the club. The same rules that apply in the club apply outside the club and all dancers sign a contract before going on these "Outcalls" agree-ing that they understand the rules.

    There are plenty of guys are willing to just have the company of a pretty lady and no sex. They just are, like you said, lonely. One guy booked me for 5 hours because he just wanted someone to go for a walk with him so he could just vent and talk.

    If you are working as an independant, I would say make sure you check in with someone every half hour- hour or have them check in with you ORALLY - no text messages. Keep your mobile on and with you.

    If I ever did escort work outside of my club... I would most likely stick to the same rules the club has .. if they signed a legally binding contract that stated that they understood that no sexual services would be on offer then I would re-inform them of the contract and how I'm not willing to break that contract under any circumstances before entering their hotel and hence their hotel room.

    Just make sure everyone is informed. That's how I would play it.


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    There are plenty of guys are willing to just have the company of a pretty lady and no sex. They just are, like you said, lonely. One guy booked me for 5 hours because he just wanted someone to go for a walk with him so he could just vent and talk.
    I've never done escort work, nor do I have any urge to do so, but I'd imagine this sort of customer would be few and far between. I'm also assuming that most escorts view Companion Seeking Customers as a rare treat, like a SC patron who tips well without receiving dances. I couldn't handle seeing those guys, I'd be more apt to deal with the Sex Only Customers. I understand that these days anything can be bought; but I'm far too empathetic, just knowing that the poor guy has to buy a shoulder to cry on would eat away at me.

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    Well Girls, I certainly have a lot ot report about this biz...it's been GREAT!! I screen the guys by seeing a picture first and so far everyone of them has been sooooo sweet! They are all the same:

    business men (mostly young) who just don't have time to date and want a soft girl to kiss and hug and feel good with.

    A lot of them want me to act like a "girlfriend". Some who have been repeat clients even write me emails like I am their friend/girlfriend or something. Almost none of them even last an hour....usually I am out of there in 15-20 minutes!

    I actually ENJOY most of the guys company and don't mind it in the least.

    Believe me, it isn't for everyone, but if you have a casual attitude about sex, you can make some easy cash and meet some very interesting rich men in the process.

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    Lucky You! Unfortunately not every woman in this
    business (past or present) can be as upbeat as you.
    It is certainly possible to be very successful in the escort business but it usually takes a lot of time,
    effort and often a little luck.
    There is a downside to almost everything and just
    getting pictures from your prospective clients
    is hardly a thorough screening process. Unless you
    are actually checking into these guys before "hooking
    up" you are definitely running unnecessary risks that
    will bite your ass sooner or later.
    What are you doing with the money you make?
    Spending ? Saving? Investing?
    What are you doing with yourself?
    Going to school? One escort I used to know
    graduated from Princeton and is very successful
    in the "straight" world.
    Setting yourself up with a "straight" business?
    Most escorts burn out after only a few years.
    Time and gravity catches up with everyone
    sooner or later.
    Thinking of marrying one of your clients?
    Been known to happen but it's very rare
    and any one of them with real $$$ AND a brain
    is going to have you sign an AIR-TIGHT pre-nupt.
    agreement BEFORE tying the knot.
    In short, if you play it smart escorting will be a
    means to an end and not an end in itself.
    BE SAFE-BE CAREFUL-BE SMART and Good Luck!

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    You are soooooo right and I am definitely just waiting for my luck to run out (cause it will eventually). You have to be ONE CRAFTY GIRL to keep things under control. I suppose my last post was a little "sunny" and this biz is NOT all sunshine.

    The only reason I got into this was to get out of debt and help my mom...once that's done I will be out. Like I said, my luck can't hold up.

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    BLONDIE- Use your head.You're obviously NOT stupid
    and for the most part are taking the right approach.
    Take sensible measures to MINIMIZE the risks; not
    eliminate ( few things in life are risk-free). Screen your
    customers thoroughly. Have ONE reliable person KNOW
    where you are and with WHOM AT ALL TIMES.
    NEVER discuss sex with a 1st-timer. He is compensating
    you for the TIME you are spending with him- Nothing
    more-nothing less.
    NEVER discuss sex on the phone with any customer;
    1st timer or regular.
    ALWAYS meet your dates at a public bar or
    restaurant.
    ALWAYS frisk 1st- timers for wires and weapons.You know how to do it. Just make it part of the friendly and
    casual "getting to know you process".
    NEVER get into a car with them. It's a lot easier to
    run out of a motel room than a moving car.
    IF IT'S LEGAL where you work carry- a gun or pepper
    spray. If not, take a serious women's self-defense
    class. Not Tae-bo; not karate; not kick-boxing BUT
    A REAL SELF-DEFENSE class where they teach you inter alia how to use those nice long fingernails IF you have to.
    LASTLY- If you should get busted- SAY NOTHING!
    Just name ,address and DOB. Other than that
    NOT A PEEP until you see your lawyer. BTW- make sure
    you have one you can call with criminal experience;NOT
    the guy who repped your cousin for an auto accident
    or drew up Granny's will. Keep his or her card with you
    AT ALL TIMES.INSIST on calling him or her if you get
    popped.Remember, in most places a 1st time bust
    for prostitution results in nothing more than a fine
    and/ or community service. A lot of women you see
    picking trash up along the highways are working off
    busts for "soliciting".

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    Being an escort can be tricky at times depending on how open-minded you are. But it's true that a lot of men do not want sex. And depending on how experienced you are verbally you can swing their wants to your wants. Just be upfront on what you're comfortable doing so you won't get into anything you don't want to. Good luck!

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    about the pepper spray and the like, they are not in use by women like they used to be. We did a demo. for men who where NOT druged, and they still are functional. Slower, but can still grab, and do a woman lots of damage. I used to carry the stuff on my keychain, and i won't bother anymore.

    Upon taking the Dispatch/security class the number of men who get even more of an adrenaline rush due to pain is high. They can still see you, they just have major sinus and eye tearing, along with the very rare one who will die due to this stuff.

    I was taught never to let a guy get you inside the car, no matter what cost to you...Even if he has a gun he is most likely to drive off to an easier target if he can't get you in. The purpose for most of these guys is NOT to rape or kill you outside the car in public, but to get you inside. Once inside you have less chance for survival.

    ALWAYS yell FIRE....That will get everyones attention. Because fire puts people around you at risk too, so they look for the voice yelling. Also not to mention, alot of these guys will be like "wtf," you throw them off.

    Self defense is great, but a weapon can be taken from us, sinse most of these guys do the "hurry up and grab approach" our items get left behind at times.

    The buddy system is good, as is never go it alone at night, not for a second. Thats all it takes.
    Pamela

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    Upon taking the Dispatch/security class the number of men who get even more of an adrenaline rush due to pain is high. They can still see you, they just have major sinus and eye tearing, along with the very rare one who will die due to this stuff.
    This is so true! Forget all the BS that you've heard, when a man's adrenaline's rushing the worst thing to do is spray something on him or kick him in the balls... it simply won't faze him. I used to carry around a stun gun; but I don't bother anymore.

    However, if he can't breathe than he can't attack you. You've got to change his mind set from attacking to surviving. Then you'll have that crucial moment needed to escape.

    Unarmed: Use the edge of your hand or any firm narrow object, not a fist or large object, quickly jab him in the Adams apple. The key here is not force; but speed. A large object such as a fist, will lessen the accuracy. You want to dislodge his wind pipe. Human survival instinct, in such an occurrence, is to reach up and grab your throat as you gasp for breath. That's your cue to run like hell.

    Gun pointed at you: As Pam stated, never get in the car! It's risky; but to me, it's worth it to die trying. If gun is in his right hand than quickly, without any hesitation, grab gun with both hands and twist barrel around towards your left, his finger will be unable to bend. Use your body weight to follow through, you'll end up landing on your ass behind him and to his right, with his gun pointed at him. Fire! My dad taught me a lesson I'll never forget, never brandish a weapon unless you're willing and able to use it. Otherwise, you may as well surrender.

    Knife at your throat: Stay calm. Say nothing. Do what he says, at some point, if he's taking you somewhere, he'll have no choice but to falter and move the blade away in some small way, while he's using the other hand for something such as opening a door. This is risky, you'll know when it's possible. Quickly slip down under his arms and around his back. Firmly press your body against his back so that he can't wave knife around and stab you. Use every bit of strength you've got to gauge out his eyeballs, not just push them in; but really tear them out. If he can't see you... he can't stab you. Run like hell.

    ** I'm not a self-defense instructor. Take what you want from this; but at your own risk. I've used the first two; but it was purely instinct, I'm not trained. BTW, turned out the asshole's gun wasn't even loaded, he must've decided I wasn't worth it after all the commotion and approaching truck, so he got in his car and took off. Damn! I really wanted to shoot him too! I never reported the attack cause I wanted to keep the .45. This was almost five years ago, I ended up getting rid of it because I was afraid I'd be caught with a weapon that had once been used to kill someone. I should've turned it in for that very reason; but I was young and dumb as well as too terrified to take note of his plate number.

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    Nothing like first hand experience BUT
    !. Pepper Spray not working- you probably got
    ripped off and were sold an inferior product. I don't
    care how tough you are- if you can't see, you're
    less dangerous. Full strength pepper spray right
    in the eyes- he'll be disabled long enough for you to get away or scream for help.
    2. Going for the testicles- NOT reccomended. Too
    small a target. LEARN how to bring your arm up as
    fast as possible striking under the chin with your
    wrist bone( one of the hardest in your body) and
    with the downward motion rip his eyes with your
    fingernails. Not pretty BUT very effective.
    3. Don't deal with creeps in the first place.SCREEN,
    SCREEN and SCREEN some more or don't do
    escort work.

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    Thats great advice kid! Thanks, i am sure alot of women will jump right in and start fighting. It's that old fight or flight thing we all have.

    I have learned along time ago, the most powerful weapon we all have is our minds! A person who is going to attack us normally likes a "fight" first it's all about power anyway.

    Many women have talked their way out of a situation by simply just talking, of course if things are moving way too fast for talk, yelling is a great tool as well.

    I am not saying don't ever fight...By all means whatever you have use it. But the majority of us can not over power a man. And staying calm, but looking pissed, and very firm, lying about people coming now to meet you in their vehicle works well, as does i just pushed a key inside my purse that has dialed up the PD, they hear us talking. LIE and LIE more! May just be a key some of us hold that will scare a would be attacker off.

    I have excellent books from a Highway Patrolman about the minds of Bundy, Son of Sam, Jeff Dahmer and the like. They where a genius in their "sick minds."

    Pamela


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    If you can reason with a crazed attacker, than you're one bad bitch! Most of us though, aren't Pulitizer prize winning authors of works on Instant Analisis for Psycotic Trauma, so it may help to know how to take out a wind pipe or eyes. Last resort, of course, if he doesn't succumb to mind tricks and start crying about his momma who didn't care and daddy who wasn't there.

    One things true though, not everyone has that fight or flight mentality. For more detail on this matter, see Darwin's works, i.e. survival of the fittest.

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    PAMELA- If you want to wager YOUR LIFE; YOUR
    health; YOUR safety and in certain situations YOUR
    money on your ability to "out-think" an attacker-
    GOOD LUCK!!
    Is keeping your head a good idea? NO! it's a GREAT
    idea and serious women's self-defense programs
    focus and teach just that.
    If you can talk your way out of a dangerous situation-
    WONDERFUL! What if you can't? Then what? Just
    meekly become a statistic thinking it is some kind
    of divine punishment for being a bad girl.
    I don't like to share personal details but I helped
    teach serious self-defense to women. No I wasn't
    the instructor- just his asst. or "uki" for you martial
    artistes out there. For the advanced students I'd
    get "geared up" in helmet and body padding and those gals would practice escaping from choke-holds;
    delivering knee strikes, groin strikes etc.etc. Full Speed and Full Contact! There were a few that no
    one should mess with. I'm 5'11"- 190 lbs. and
    women barely 1/2 my size were striking and throwing
    me around as well as many of my male colleagues.
    The point is a simple one- IF you bother to put
    serious time and effort into a serious program-
    At least 2 classes per week for at least a year AND
    seriously practice at least 2x a week you'll be
    capable of handling most situations.
    The BEST thing to do is NOT to get in such situations
    in the first place. Don't hook up with just any Tom,
    Dick or Harry. Screen and take reasonable precautions. That's all I'm saying. Peace Sister.

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    Kid, sorry to stray off topic as I'm not an escort; but could you give me a quick tip. How would a girl escape a sleeper-like choke hold? I'd probably try to reach up and take out his eyes; but that might not be possible.

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    but could you give me a quick tip. How would a girl escape a sleeper-like choke hold?
    Tough call. We choked each other out in the Marines, and I could put a guy out in about four or five seconds with my wrists. (With a rubber hose or a smaller neck, it's even quicker.)

    It's not cutting off the wind that puts them out, it's blocking the brain's blood supply through the carotids. The normal reflex is to tug at the attacker's hands, and there goes two or three seconds. A second or two later, you're out, if the attacker knows what he's doing.

    Like I said, tough call. If I could keep my wits about me, I'd probably try to run backwards into him, throwing him off balance, maybe pushing him back off his feet, which could force his hands down in his catch reflex. If there's the time or the mental presence for that. Other than than, maybe just avoid being rushed from behind. It'd be scary.

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    Kid,
    my point was our brain is a very powerful weapon in itself. Thinking, meaning looking for a weakness on the attackers part has helped many many people. I sure am not against fighting for my life. I will fight before die.

    I was just letting others read what i have learned. It all starts in the brain, everything.

    Kicking, scratching, fists flying etc. I am not against one bit. I prefer (if time provides) to do my best with my brain first, and body second.

    If you grab me from behind, i promise you will get a very sharp heel someplace that i pray will put you down, so i can take my shoes off and run!

    I am not talking about trying to "talk down " a coke head, not usually do-able i would guess. But i will be looking for weapons near by to grab, and my words as to why he has picked the wrong person.

    Hey, in these kind of situations, anything you do is worth the try.

    Legs Don't fail me know........I can run very fast, don't want to be a hero, just save my life.

    Pamela

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    NAOMI- To escape a choke-hold the emphasis is on speed. There are a variety of techniques available:
    1. Rather than try to out wrist-wrestle your attacker,
    GRAB the pinky on the hand of the arm which is applying pressure to your carotid.PULL the pinky
    AWAY from the reast of the hand as hard and as fast as possible- Almost every woman has enough strength to cause the joint to break. Once free,
    rip at his eyes IF he's upright and RUN!. If he's bent over in pain- GRAB his ears and pull down into your
    knee which you bring up as fast as possible.
    2. Since his arms and hands are busy trying to
    "choke you out" yours are free. A reverse thumb
    strike to the eye OR a quick hard stomp on his foot
    OR BOTH at the same time are often effective.
    3. Quickly step to the side IF YOU CAN ( obviously
    you won't be able to if he's puled you up off the ground) and strike or grab his balls. If you can grab his balls PULL back and UP as fast as possible to
    rip and tear and cause maximum PAIN!
    4. DON'T try this stuff yourselves at home. Take a
    serious course. Look, MOST of you are in good to
    great physical shape anyway. The female students
    I've studied with and helped teach who had dance
    backgrounds picked up and perfected the techniques
    a lot FASTER than most of the MEN!
    5. One more little "professional tip"- some of the
    martial arts moves can easily be incorporated into
    your dance routines on stage. You can earn and
    practice at the same time.
    TAKE A SERIOUS COURSE- don't rely on what you may
    have heard or seen on TV or even what I've posted.
    Peace Ladies!

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