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    Okay now, girls - I'm really going to need some help on this one (guys too). I need to know if anyone has any experience or knows of any terms (sickness?) for a customer that likes to be a "money slave". I have this new guy that gets turned on by me telling him to give me money. I've heard of this before, but not experienced it. Tonight, I told him to go to the ATM 4 times- and by george - he did it. I made a grand off of him alone. I actually had to make him leave the club - and told him to come in again tomorrow, when he wanted to stay another hour in the champagne lounge and just give me money. It's not like telling a customr to get money and they begrudgingly do it - this turns hiim on and gets him all happy!. This is a bizarre, sort of self-deprecating behavior that I can cope with on a physical level, (when guys want to be spanked, berated, etc...), but not a monetary level.
    Has any one else dealt with this? I originally didn't think he was serious about this when he brought it up on Monday and wound up giving me a good amount of money, so I told him to come in today and he lived up to his word and dropped mad cash.
    A regular customer I spoke with later in the night said that there is a name for this behavior - but couldnt remember what it was. If anyone knows the name, let me know, because I am interested in researching this phenomenon. Who knows if it will last, but another reason I want to research it , is to see how both can benefit (me money - him fantasy) without making things go haywire. I can't imagine this would be good for anyones bank account for a serious amount of time, and i don't want that hanging over my head. I'm a libra with serious guilt issues!

    Jax :-/
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    I have some online experience with that. You might be surprised to learn how many guys are into that stuff. They get off on the fantasy of having a woman control them to the point of being 'forced' to give her money, support her, pay her bills, buy her gifts, sometimes even live with her and be her total slave. There are some who will go so far as to sign written contracts for varying levels of financial 'servitude', and some who will 'apply' to have his Goddess live in his house by offering her total financial support, and sending pictures of his possessions to see if they please his Goddess. The guys who get into that online will send money via PayPal, send stuff in the mail, and send gifts from online stores after you've chatted with them, emailed, whatever.

    I used to 'reward' my boys with Goddess photos, videos, old lipsticks, old shoes, etc. They love it! Anyway, being a flighty Gemini I got tired of it and quit. I think I still have some old sites out there I never got around to taking down - once in a while I'll still get an email from some guy asking if I'm still accepting 'tribute', as they call it.

    If you get into that, you have to be able to dominate the guy. They usually like some form of physical / mental / emotional domination as well as the financial kind. Many of them want you to 'force' them to go shopping with you and buy you whatever you want. Some even want to be 'forced' to give you their paychecks, while you only 'allow' them a 'meager' existence and you 'blow the rest of their money frivolously'. I have never dealt with a money slave in realtime, only online, so the domination we had was limited. Most of my boys were European, but I did have one American. They wanted me to totally berate them and tell them repeatedly how worthless they were and their existence was only justified by financially supporting their Goddess. I could go on and on, but the gist of it is money slaves are basically just subs who happen to really get off on financial submission.

    Do a search for money slave online, and you'll find quite a bit of stuff. There are loads of yahoo groups as well for this - alot of women have these to 'corral' their boys.

    My suggestion is you read what you can find online, and next time you see this guy, try going into a Domme mode and see how he reacts. If he's into it, at some point say something about how you're looking for a new slave boy who might be worthy of becoming your toy. If he starts begging for the position, you've got yourself a new regular. You'll have to 'force' him to jump through some hoops to earn the privilidge of being your toy, it's all part of the game. You also have to act like you don't give a damn about his finances and whether he can afford to give you the money - you are the Goddess and you deserve it and that's that. There's alot more and you can find most online. The key to keeping him is to find an amount he can afford to spend, then 'force' him to give you that every week or whatever period, and keep him from getting bored by creating new 'tasks', etc that he has to complete in order to maintain your 'interest', and getting into whatever roleplay he likes that you can get away with in the club, and 'reward' him sometimes for 'good behaviour'. Oh an make sure you don't talk about him to anyone in the club - if it gets back to him you'll likely lose him; besides, some other girls will jump at the chance to take advantage of him.

    HTH, PM me if you want to chat more.

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    Nothing like preying on someone's psychopathology to drain his or her wallet. It's the free market way.

    Liquor stores sell to alcoholics. Tobacco companies sell cigarettes to people with emphysema. Grocery stores sell candy to morbidly obese people.

    I trust it puts the "Bambi" thread in a different light. That behavior is abhorrent to me, but if you have consenting adults willing to pay and be paid to satisfy unnatural cravings, that's just part of the market system.

    Right?

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    Bridgette seems to know a lot about this! But I'd have to agree with everything she said. You have to give him more abuse than just forcing him to give you money for him to stay interested. Make him want to serve you...want to please you so badly. Don't make it easy for him.

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    OMG... I want one of those!!!!
    LMAO

    Luv,
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    Holy mother! It is certainly a form of masochism. My favorite kind!

    Masochism came from the author Leoplod van Sacher-Masoch, who penned the beautiful Venus in Furs. May I suggest all you dominant of wanna be dom women give it a read? You will learn SO MUCH truth. It's georgeous. Jax you might like it. It will teach you how to treat this man. It's the best field manual I have Ever come across.

    Enjoy
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    If I find a well-heeled lady who feels compelled to give me money in return for me being domineering to her and ordering her around, snarl at her a little to shake her up, praise her a little just to take the edge off, and make sure that I watch her checkbook just to make sure that I don't take so much that I kill the golden goose, is that morally OK?

    It's a rhetorical question. Obviously, it must be morally OK.

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    Well, Bridgette -
    I did my research and I found a plethora of information that should help me . This is otherwise financial domination. If I did not tell him to leave last night, he would have kept takig money out of his account. Even when I told him to leave, he came back in and asked for another dance.
    I by all means won't share this with other girls. The managers know, however - because they saw that in a manner of hours my money roll had tripled in size - they ALWAYS notice that. Also, he gets turned on if i literally go into his pockets and take out money, and the champagne hostess saw me doing that twice - so of course she asked me about it.
    I will definitely try to bring out the Domme thing tonight and see how well he responds to it. I told him to give me his email and everytime I work I will give him instructions via email as to what the plans are for that night.

    I'll definitely need some training on this, so Bridgette, be expecting a PM from me!

    Jax
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    Sign me up!! Even though I think many SC customers are money slaves already. I wonder if sex is involved? To me if a man is forking over sometimes thousands of dollars isn't he going to expect something? I should throw up a site just to see what I get . I have looked at some sites online and most of the women seem to be from England.. Go figure.

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    Simply put he is probably a person in a fairly high position in his daily life, and wants to be told what to do, because he makes decisions all day for others.

    Very common, he wants to be a Sub, and for you to Dominate him with his money!

    Gotta luv them. The are all over the place, this is really how these people live, (some) but piss him off, and at times the tables turn...and it could get ugly, so be careful.

    He just may be in his "fantasy mode" right now, and not actually live this way all the time.

    Sometimes these guys wake up. Others have an addiction to this sort of behaviour, and when the money runs low, can get pissed.

    You will have to play him by ear. It's comon, and sometimes short lived, other times along time. Some a lifestyle.

    They do have a tendancy to move around to others for the same feeling they get from say..you.

    He just wants to be your pet right now. Watch his wallet however, keep it easy on the $$, and he should remain cool.

    On the phones it's very different, they will throw a chargeback on ya at times. Especially after being told what to do...say, leave me a fucking $50 tip fuck up, and they do, some only to nail you later with a chargeback.

    PS these types of people are quite common, he's just extreme. Has money and it's his way of getting attention, and being out of control...it's a turn on...big time for these guys who want to be slaves to women.
    Pamela

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    OMG... I want one of those!!!!
    Me too girl!

    This is absolutely fascinating... There are so many different people in this world with an army of various turn-on, there's bound to be a money slave too, lol.


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    I've just seen a few sites. I really wonder if the ladies there get big items or just small items. That is an awesome way to make a living. LOL. I want in on the action!

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    I use to work w/ a girl that would do this to all off her customers,give me all your money would pull there hair make them walk on there hands and knees behind her and she wasnt real pretty either but guys loved her, even one of my guys(business,suit and tie guy) mentioned her to me, and I was like you like that and he was like Iam in charge of everyone at work everyday and I like her takeing charge,so I guess she would get all of these types of guys,Iam surprised he came to you jacklynn,if you are kind of shy, as I am and I would feel funny doing this as well, I had a foot fetish once, and he made me feel wierd, but was excellent money.

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    Jason, if you were to find a girl like that, say, at the mall or in your real life and bring her home so that you dominated her whole life, that probably would be wrong. Unless she understood and consented to the whole thing, then it would just be a normal dom/sub relationship.

    But, if she were to come to your place of employment and request such treatment, and it were kept on a business level, there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.

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    Hehe, Michele, I wouldn't exactly use the term "shy" for me. (you haven't seen me at work!). Having 2 friends who are both professional Dommes, it is the people sometimes you least expect to be Dominant in a bdsm type of relationship. While I'm by no means shy, I am sometimes overly nice...I am one of those people that is nice when we talk, yet I am very intense at work. I never smile on stage - (i don't know why - i just don't), and a lot of customers think I'm a bitch and are very surprised when I am not...(most of the time - while it's very easy to sometimes go into bitch-mode!) It's just that this is my first Dom/sub experience firsthand of such intensity, that I'm trying to figure out how to leash this animal of a situation.
    What is interesting about this customer is that he has always been described as cheap. I've known him for almost 2 years and only now did this come out. You see, 2 years ago I asked him for a dance, and we danced. I danced more for his friend over that period of time and one time when I asked my "slave"(?) in his pre-slave days, he said no. But the other day I just said - "we're doing dances", and he snapped. It just kept on going and then evolved into this. Then he admitted to me that he has been adoring me for 2 years - jeez! I told him to get double dances with me and another girl and to tip her an extra $40. he did. Then he said " you have no idea how much money you're going to make off of me". Weird!
    Anyway, Pamela - you hit the nail on the head. His friend who was with him last night told me that he is a very controlling person. He is a VP at one of the top Investing Firms in the US, and I suppose this is his way of "losing control".
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    Just an idea....don't call him your slave yet. That's what he wants to be. Let him work to become your slave!

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    Oh Jax yes.... they always are big wigs! It's the ones who want to kiss or lick your feet for example that feel they have a need to be wanted. (a sex pet, no self worth, foot worship, kiss the ground you walk on, but not all).

    Guys who want to be dominated by a woman or man on the other hand won't normally do foot worship, they want to roll out the red carpet and pay $$$. They have that urge for you to take away their power.

    They are nice people. I like them fine. But please for the sake of "not" losing him, play into his fantasy with kindness, unless he directs you to other grounds.

    There are all forms of Domination, as i am sure you know, and the ones who have the money are by far a girls best friend.

    PS and they usually don't want sex...the high for them is being told what to do, your case give money to you!
    I think it's great!!!
    More power to you.....Don't lose him, it's what he wants at the moment!

    This behaviour is ALWAYS a passing moment. Enjoy!!!!
    They have a tendenacy to move on to others.

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    I thought about what u said Jax and the simple change in language from a question to a statement might be what got him. You first said years ago you asked for a dance, and that this time you told him WE ARE DOING DANCES. That leaves no room for interpretation. You are a you by yourself so its understood that he made the we and "we are doing dances". That simple change may have made all the difference in the world b/c your assertive words may have given him an idea that you could be the dominant girl he was looking for. I hope it turns out to be a fun thing for both of you. It sounds so interesting to be able to do something out of the everyday "grind" in the life of a dancer.
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    Introduce him to me. I'd like to know if he can catch that disease with me.

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    Nothing like preying on someone's psychopathology to drain his or her wallet. It's the free market way.
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    .....but if you have consenting adults willing to pay and be paid to satisfy unnatural cravings, that's just part of the market system.....
    Preying? These guys ASK for it. Literally. They want to be dominated, just like any sub type, but the only thing that's different with money slave types is that they want part of that domination to include being 'told' to give his Goddess money. He still has his freedom to do it or not. If he gives, it was his choice; if he doesn't, it was his choice. 'Ordinary' subs often enjoy being beaten, flogged, bound and gagged in very uncomfortable positions, 'forced' to drink urine or serve as human ashtrays, do housework for their Goddesses, etc etc etc - and most of them happily pay professional Dommes for such things. Money slaves simply want to extend the domination right up to being 'forced' to pay, rather than offering to pay. The guys who like being dominated are generally very powerful men in their 'normal' lives, and get turned on by letting someone else take control. In reality they aren't being forced to do anything, because in this type of play the participants use safe-words and codes to let each other know how far is too far or far enough. The subs allow the 'forcing' - they even ask the Dom/mes to 'force' them to do this or that.

    Unnatural cravings? Why? Because you don't understand or agree with it? Or because they are reversing the so-called standard gender roles?

    I kept out of the Bambi thread, because I say if all are consenting adults, why not? But I did have a problem with the implication from one of the articles that the Bambis may not know exactly what they're getting into before they agree to let some dudes shoot at them with paintballs travelling at 200 mph. One girl was quoted as saying she didn't think it would be 'that bad', until she got his in the ass with a paintball and she cried 'a little' from the pain. In the D/s situation, both parties generally are aware of what they're getting into beforehand, and/or they try things slowly so as not to risk hurting or pushing someone beyond their comfort zones. Not the same as the Bambi thing.

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    Hi, Bridgette.

    No, I don't call anything "unnatural" simply because I don't understand or agree with it. I don't understand or agree with a lot of things that are, I'm sure, perfectly natural.

    If people wish to say that begging other people to take money from them - or wanting to pretend to shoot women, for that matter - is natural, they're entitled to that opinion. Whether I agree isn't going to change the world, or their minds, I'm sure.

    I don't play "gender roles." I don't mean to sound like a hypocrite when I say that - obviously, in a strip club, there's gender roles being played, but I'm referring to traditional gender roles of duties and dominance and subservience. Those types of roles, I don't play. We're all entitled to explore our talents, abilities, and desires, wherever they lie, as much as the law allows, regardless of gender or any other personal attribute.

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    Divyne- I agree wholly - it was just the change of my conversation that changed his views towards me.
    As for "preying", I have to add that I instigated none of this. It was the customer who told me in the lounge, "you know , I know i really shouldn't tell you this, but it turns me on if you tell me to give you money". Well, it's the nature of our business to make the customer happy, right? I had a customer who got turned on watching me smoke one time. So what did I do? I smoked about 10 more cigarettes than I normally would have that night and made a lot more money. This act for him is integrated into the fabric of his fetish. If I was doing something destructive to him, which is in essence the meaning of the word "prey", then yes, it would be morally wrong. IMO. I just couldn't deal with that, though I know some people could. But I can't really agree that me or any other girls who moderately entertains this fetish/behavior to be a predator on a helpless victim.
    it's not about free market, as so much it is about free choice. Which is why we are able to enjoy strip clubs in the first place!

    Anyway, to update you guys on him, I personally thought he'd last a hot week and then would be gone with the wind. But no, he's still there. I might as well take advantage of it while I can, because the economy is slow!
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    Love it!You must have the best charma ever.
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    so here goes girls...i need your opinions. could i have met a money slave?
    so im in the dressing room tonight, a girl walks in and asks another dancer " so whats up with the older gentlemen sitting at the bar?" the other dancer says "oh hes just a guy who will drop 200 on you just to sit with him and make him feel good" . so there i go ..im outta there!
    i go and sit next to him at the bar, hes playing a game. i nonchalantly say hey is that any fun? ive never played it before. he says yea..i cant seem to win it tho, you can help.
    we sit there for a bit, hes really quiet and i have to go on stage. he says to me" no you cant go, i need you." hmmmm....so i tell him ill come back in a bit. he tips me on stage. at this point i wasnt even thinking anything of it. so about a half hour goes by, i go back to talk to him....find out he is a doctor, and owns a radiology center. hes the boss. ask him if i can sit with him, he tells me "well i dont know why you would want to , but sure. then he asks me what he can call me....like a nickname. i told him i dont have a nickname, but this is my stage name...this is my real name....he can call me stephanie or steph.
    sorry this is long girls............
    so then, he tells me ..well...i cant call u either of those names. now im confused. so we ended up doing two dances,, and that was it. ahh theres more but i dont remember. but something gave me the idea that he is one of those types that think of themselves as lower than you. or somethin. so whats your take on this? the nickname thing really caught my attention, any ideas on somethin i could tell him to call me to get his response...and see if i can read into anything more? all i know is that i treated him like any other customer, and it didnt do it for him. but he seemed to have me on a pedistool...............help!

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    Sounds like he wanted a little domination. I wouldn't say he is a money slave, just a regular sub. They usually like to be told how to properly address their 'Goddess', as either Mistress or Goddess or the like. That's the signal I would have gotten from what you posted.

    OTOH, he could have been fishing for a little smoke blowing up his ass, but it really seems like a submissive thing to me.

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