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    Default What makes a bad dance?

    Let me explain what I don't mean by a bad dance. I don't mean a dance where the guy grabbed at you because he got a little overanxious. I don't mean a dance you didn't get a big applaud or tips for.
    I'm speaking basicly about the technical and artistic aspects of a dance. This is not another "spaz dancer" article. I want constructive comments. By constructive I mean comments that take you somewhere and you can build upon. Like if I said point your toes while dancing. Why? Because pointing your toes lead to continuous body lines so the body forms into a series of pleasing lines and curves.
    If I said "don't dance dorky" what does that lead to? What can you build upon that?
    Okay I'll start with the first one. A bad dance is one that after you view the first few moves you already know what the dance is about. A bad dance is where the music is simply used as a time keeper.
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    Default Re:What makes a bad dance?

    a really bad dance (speaking private dances) is when the guy is so stimulated that he blows his load in his pants almost immediately, then gets up and heads for the men's room without buying more private dances !

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    To me a bad dance is when a dancer is out of rhythm with the beat, that does look strange. Or major body parts that are meant to be viewed by the customer are out of line with your face. I do private ld's, and learned that i like to look in a guys eyes, and have my chest with sexy shoes pointed right at his front. If from behind, i want my rear pointed in full view of of his face as well, with legs showing all the way down.

    I like to keep as much of my "major" body parts towards him in other words, from my front or behind.

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    I bad dance, whether public or private, is when the girl acts bored. If you have a lot of energy, eye contact and a big smile, that's enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FONDL link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59015#msg59015 date=1072468736
    I bad dance, whether public or private, is when the girl acts bored. If you have a lot of energy, eye contact and a big smile, that's enough for me.
    God yes...there's nothing worse than a dance from a bored, gum-chewing dancer. For me, a lot of it is in the mental connection/energy between me and the dancer, and if her mind isn't there, it ain't gonna happen.

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    A dancer is a salesperson, selling a performance. Looking and acting like you don't give a crap is a bad sales job and a worse performance. Did you ever see a magician yawn and say "This is all fake, I'm just here for the pay."?

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    A lapdance can either be amazing, or it can be awful. The woman holds the power. The key to giving a truly great dance is being able to make the customer really believe that you WANT him and that you are genuinely enjoying being so close to him. Do this by looking deep into his eyes...and establish a nonverbal sexual and emotional connection with him. The energy between you and him determines everything. Trust me - if you do this, he will never want to leave, and he will always come back for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59039#msg59039 date=1072475341
    A dancer is a salesperson, selling a performance. Looking and acting like you don't give a crap is a bad sales job and a worse performance. Did you ever see a magician yawn and say "This is all fake, I'm just here for the pay."?
    Besides Penn & Teller? :-D

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    I count Penn and Teller as a comedy act, not magicians. Good comeback though Josh. Same with Johnny Carson. And Randi is retired as a performer.

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    Default Re:What makes a bad dance?

    - When the dancer kneels on top of your thighs for a long period of time putting her full weight down. It's just terribly uncomfortable.

    - When the dancer gives an uninspired performance after asking for the money up front.

    - When the dancer scolds the customer for having the nerve to behave himself and keep his hands off her (God knows its happened to me more than once).

    - When the customer's hands wander into "restricted territory".

    - When either party has had too much to drink.

    - When the Mexican cuisine that either party had yesterday begins to backfire.

    - When the customer asks something along the lines of, "Are those real?"

    - When the dancer tries "the flip" and it goes terribly awry (although you've got to give a gal points for degree of difficulty on that one).
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    A bad dance is at 1st shift and the chic isn't realy awake yet and spills her coffee on you that is a bad dance. Bad dances to me is like bad sex I haven't had it happen yet. To me their is different degrees of good. Hehehe

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    I think Pamela and Lady Victoria give excellent tips on what a good dance is and doc-catfish has the bad ones covered well. I might add one thing that puts me off and that is when a dancer keeps on looking at hereself in the mirror most of the time. Even if the body motion is very good, it is mechanical and doesnt do much for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59046#msg59046 date=1072477508
    I count Penn and Teller as a comedy act, not magicians.
    Well, Penn is mostly a talker and a juggler, but Teller is a first-rate magician. And you'll never catch Penn or Teller yawning during their performance, saying they're just there for the money, so I don't think NVJosh's answer was meant to be taken completely seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SusanV link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59270#msg59270 date=1072572753

    Well, Penn is mostly a talker and a juggler, but Teller is a first-rate magician. And you'll never catch Penn or Teller yawning during their performance, saying they're just there for the money, so I don't think NVJosh's answer was meant to be taken completely seriously.
    I've been to their performances where they like to expose how tricks are done. They get upset at people calling themselves magicians when its really just illusion. No, they aren't there for the pay, they just don't deny that ultimately its all fake. Very funny fake.

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    Ok, I apologize in advance, I am not very good at this quote stuff!!

    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59058#msg59058 date=1072480722

    - When the dancer gives an uninspired performance after asking for the money up front.
    I have asked for money up front before, dont a lot of girls do that? Not that we give crappy dances afterwards.

    - When the dancer scolds the customer for having the nerve to behave himself and keep his hands off her (God knows its happened to me more than once).

    - When the customer's hands wander into "restricted territory".
    True, true indeed...

    - When either party has had too much to drink.
    That is very true!! I have tripped & fallen onto customers before. I have also seen a girl go to sit on her customers lap & then slip right off, lol. I've also had guys spill drinks on me & another guy almost slipped oout of his chair.

    Here's one: When a customer pisses his pants & expects us to give a good dance while we try not to touch the smelly, wet croth area! Yea, that has happened to me twice now within 2 weeks!! I don't get it... lol

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    Talking about money, problems, boyfriends and tips during the dance. Smokey hair dragged over the customer's clothes. Looking in the mirror. Letting boredom show. Starting in the middle of a song and refusing to wait until a new song begins. Sweat. Chewing gum in my ear. Telling me my dick is too small. (That happened only once.) Asking for my business card. Asking if I'm married. (I'm not, but I didn't ask you any personal questions.) Pushing me to use the club ATM machine to get more money for dances. (Hell, NO! I will not pay a $20.00 service to use an ATM.)

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    LOL Mark! ahahaha

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    I think a bad dance is when the dancer is restricted by club rules or the law from doing what she wants to do in her dance. I personally like to straddle with both legs off the ground, grind and dance on my knees. In other words, I like my dances to have a lot of variety and I like to show off my flexibilty. Some clubs prevent dancers from doing the best dance possible because they think it could lead to extras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVJosh link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59285#msg59285 date=1072576674
    Quote Originally Posted by SusanV link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59270#msg59270 date=1072572753

    Well, Penn is mostly a talker and a juggler, but Teller is a first-rate magician. And you'll never catch Penn or Teller yawning during their performance, saying they're just there for the money, so I don't think NVJosh's answer was meant to be taken completely seriously.
    I've been to their performances where they like to expose how tricks are done. They get upset at people calling themselves magicians when its really just illusion. No, they aren't there for the pay, they just don't deny that ultimately its all fake. Very funny fake.
    You're right that P&T stand out from the rest of the magic community with their "bad boys of magic" image, in part due to their exposure of how certain tricks are done (actually more "pseudo-exposure" since the methods they reveal aren't typically used by any other magicians).

    You're also right that they fiercely criticize fakes like Uri Geller, Sylvia Browne, John Edward, etc., who claim to have supernatural powers. But other than Geller, magicians generally aren't frauds: the audience knows they are doing tricks as part of a show, and the performers aren't seriously trying to claim otherwise. P&T have nothing but praise for other skilled magicians like Lance Burton, Mac King, Jamy Ian Swiss, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marko link=board=1;threadid=5463;start=msg59351#msg59351 date=1072597914
    A bad dance is when a dancer sits on my crotch area for the full song and just grinds away. I thought one girl was trying to mash my potatoes!
    lol..im not sure about the mashing of potatoes since i dont have any..but that same thing happened to me last night at Club Madonna (south beach, fl). she just straddled me and gyrated for about 2 songs. at first i was into it...until a minute passed and she just kept doing the same thing. and im thinking "uhhh...is she gonna do anything else?"

    i guess she had never danced for a girl before. but she was really nice, so i just smiled and let her continue...and gave her a big tip as i do for anyone else. she also got tipped rather well by the guys i came with cuz they got to watch it all and loved it.

    i guess i wouldnt call it a "bad" dance, cuz i suppose it would have been enjoyable had i been a guy. i will describe it as redundant tho compared to other dances i've had. but i had a great time regardless, and i'll probably go back to Club Madonna next week :-)

    (anyway...in addition to sharing my story..i also wanted to say hello to everyone...im new, and kinda shy.... )

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    A bad dance is when either parties breath smells. also when the customer is a little thick and your legs get stuck between his outter thighs and the chair arms, you don't want to insult him, but circulation is being cut off and your legs are falling asleep. Happened to me twice.
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    I agree with most of what has been posted. For me its important to have great eye contact with the customer, dance smooth and effortlessly to the music, and make the customer think you care.

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    Not really a bad dance but a strange occurance..getting a LD and she did this floor back roll thingy and was stung by a bee. Boy real damper on the mood there.

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    Bad smells !! Too much perfume, kickin B.O., or fishy crotch can really ruin the mood.

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    Really ungraceful floorwork. You know when a girl just lies there on her back with her legs spread and a face that screams "LOOK AT IT!! LOOK AT MY PUSSY!!", like it's an unpleasant gyno exam. Scary! :o
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