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    The other night I was at the club and all of a sudden the cops rolled up in masks and burst in. They went straight for the dressing room and started writing tickets. Six girls in all got ticketed.

    They had come in earlier in the night 'undercover' and had gotten dances from the girls. I felt so bad for the girls, because they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. They were not 'dirty' dancers.

    Unfortunately the city ordinance in Dallas says, "No contact with customer or his / her clothing is allowed when the dancer is disrobed.

    So, technically you can get a ticket for touching a guy's arm...What a crock. Don't the cops have some real crimes to deal with???

    Anything like this ever happen in your club?

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    Thank God I haven't had this happen to me. I moved to Vegas to get away from those dirty cops that are in so prevalent in so many cities now. I personally do not believe that there is such a thing as a dirty dance. I have worked very hard to be able to do some of the more advanced lap dance moves. I should be able to do my job and show off my flexibility. It takes a lot of strength and flexiblity to be able to do a really good full contact lap dance. However, I do not consider any form of sexual penetration (anal, oral, genital or hands) to be appropriate in a lap dance club. I have nothing agianst prostitutes just as long as they don't come into the clubs to steal our business. That is just not cool.
    Do these dirty pigs go to the "regualar bars" and arrest the women for doing a stand up lap dances with the men who buy them a drink. Of course not. Those dirty pigs only go after the vulnerable women with no power or connections. It is just straight out harrassment. I really think that those poor women should start a class action law suit against the scumbags.
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    Never. And i thank my lucky stars, because i have club danced for many years. But i was at the then, Pure Platinum in Lauderdale for a very very long time, they did thier best, kept it clean.

    I since moved more north Fl. and have not had a problem with any clubs here either. We had a few cops stand at the door a few times when i was dancing, but nothing ever happened.

    Pamela :o

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    I have. I might be the only dancer here fortunate enough to have been present during a raid without having suffered any repercussions.

    We did our usual thing, not many customers in the club that night (Tuesday) but a decent crowd for early in the week. Only one party of guys stands out to me, and that was the one in which a black fellow kept trying to tip me a dollar bill in inappropriate places. I dodged when he tried to stuff the bill down my top, dodged again when he went for the front of my thong and redirected his hands towards the garter. Perhaps it was the Vice, perhaps not. I know he successfully pulled the same stunt with other girls.

    I was sitting with a favorite regular when they came in, wearing masks. Of course I knew what was happening,. so I told him to wish me luck and went straight back to the dressing room to wait for them. I'd been told since the day I started that, no matter what, I will go to jail if they ever show up. I'd pretty much made my peace with it. The other girls were crying, one girl asked what they were going to do to us. I told her to relax, that they were just normal people doing their job and that they wouldn't hurt us, that we'd be out in the morning. Two women cops were in the dressing room and one man. They took our pictures one by one (I posed). They then allowed us to dress in our street clothes but we had to keep our club underthings (mostly bikini tops an thongs) on and put the street clothes over. Then they handcuffed us all and bade us wait in the lounge.

    That was when the Leiutenant took over. He told us it was all the same charge, just one violation of the adult entertainer costume code (a panty raid, in other words) and that we would all be out within hours if we continued to be calm and cooperative. One of the female cops told us that we were the quietest group they had had all month. The cops selected Faith out of the bunch and pulled her aside.

    "Excuse me, ma'am, but which one of these guys is your manager?"
    "Roger, right there by the bar."

    Roger was arrested (and Faith had to put up with serious bullshit for "ratting" him out, but I told them all to shut up. I would have answered the exact same way and they never told us that the manager would be arrested, just us dancers. She and I both had no idea that he could get into trouble.) and he was given ten counts of violating the AEC, one for every girl on shift.

    At that point they were getting down real names to put on our Polaroids; I told them mine and sat back down. One cop took the pic to the LT., and then they all started popinting at me and murmuring amongst themselves. I was totally fine until they started that, at which time I shrank down in my seat and became very nervous that they were going to try to stick even worse charges on me.

    Two girls, both new, were in hysterics. The cops lined us up and directed us to head outside; I had to hold one girl up because she kept trying to collapse. I walked her out singing "The Ants Go Marching." Once we were outside, the LT. pulled me out of line and started walking me towards the other end of the parking lot, in the opposite direction as the other girls. I really panicked then, thinking he was going to try to rape me or something. He opened his car door and pulled out a pair of wire cutters, then cut my handcuffs off and told me to go home.

    The other girls went to jail and I went back into the club. The bartender got me ripping drunk and I made another $300 that night. But by God, it took them another hour and a half to convince me to put my strippergear back on. Weird as it seems, I was perfectly all right when I thought I was going to jail. It was when they let me GO that I freaked out.
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    Yes I have been in a club during a raid and was damn lucky not to get arrested.
    The cops arrested at least a dozen dancers for both costume and contact violations. The club management had basicaly lied to the dancers about local laws I sure did'nt know it was latex or whatever and not topless or I'd have worn the pasties I carry in my bag. I was told the contact rules were no hands /mouth contact to the groin. The law was no contact at all !
    The only reason I didn't get arrested is I had not started that shift yet and was still getting ready. The girls said they were booked,fingerprinted etc and then let go with court dates.
    One of my friends said it took 5 hours or so total and that the cops treated them fine overall.

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    Lilith: I admire how you kept your calm through all that, and thankfully the ordeal ended favorably for you.

    I've never experienced a raid, but have been working when the liquor commission came in. I guess it's a type of raid, but no arrests were made. A few girls were questioned, and the LC was obsessively checking the liquor bottles (for the life of me I don't know why). Apparently the club was fined for the dancers not wearing pasties, but that's as far as it went. I'm very thankful. I think back to when I used to work in FL and was going through my "coke" phase (I'm also thankful I grew out of this quickly). If we'd been raided then, a lot worse would have happened. Undercovers were in that place all the time!

    Just hoping my luck holds out...I'm in school again, and can't risk getting arrested. But I need to dance to pay for my education (and this leaves little money for a "legal" fund).

    I feel terrible for all girls that have to go through the trauma and hassle of a raid. As others have asserted...the cops must have better things to do. Such misplaced priorities by law enforcement is one of the reasons there are so many problems in this country.

    Well, enough ranting...I hope everyone stays safe and hassle-free.


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    BDD~
    I wasn't trying to sound like a heroine, but thanks. I got lucky. I was fatalistically pragmatic about the whole scenario; I figured I was going to jail anyways so snivelling and being upset would have been pointless. It was when they let me go that I collapsed into a wreck. Go figure, huh?
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    Unfortunately the city ordinance in Dallas says, "No contact with customer or his / her clothing is allowed when the dancer is disrobed.

    So, technically you can get a ticket for touching a guy's arm...What a crock. Don't the cops have some real crimes to deal with???
    Well, at least in Dallas it appears that "excessive contact" contrary to the city ordinance is considered as a "violation" from a legal standpoint - meaning the issuance of tickets and the release of dancers on their own recognizance without cash bail prior to their court date.

    A lot of other areas aren't so lucky and consider the same "excessive contact" as a "misdemeanor" from a legal standpoint - meaning a night in a holding cell, arraignment the next morning, having to post a substantial amount of cash bail, and having the charge show up on your permanent record.

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    I got a "warning" once when I worked at OG's.

    I don't know if you would call it a raid. Vice came in, dressed like anyone else. They came in a lot to OG's. We would usually know they were there by word of mouth. That night they had just gotten there. I was sitting on a guys lap (illegal) waiting for the next song to begin so I could lapdance for him. He was a bachelor so everyone in his group was talking to us. His friend came buy and untied my bikini style top in the back. In Vegas it's also illegal to be topless unless you are lapdancing or on stage. I didn't retie it because the song was getting ready to start and I just laid my top over my chest. It didn't cover it that well. Next thing I know a guy flashed his badge and told me to meet him in the office. There were about 10 girls in there. Some were crying. I wasn't. I cooperated fully and never missed an oppurtunity to give the officers my saddest puppy dog eyes. Three of us got away with a warning and had polariods taken of us. The other girls got tickets which I think were around $1500! I don't know what else happened to the other girls nor what they did. It was pretty scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodydewdrop link=board=1;threadid=5535;start=msg59760#msg59760 date=1072819675

    I've never experienced a raid, but have been working when the liquor commission came in. I guess it's a type of raid, but no arrests were made. A few girls were questioned, and the LC was obsessively checking the liquor bottles (for the life of me I don't know why).
    They may well have been checking to make sure that the liquor taxes had been paid. There's usually a stamp on the bottle of liquor indicating this. I don't know how big a deal it is if the stamp is missing.

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    They sure do like to take polaroids of the girls...a couple of you mentioned vice doing that. Are they being used in some way for evidence that I'm not seeing, or are their motives really as sketchy as they sound?
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    The Polaroids are purportedly "evidence" as to the charges, as well as being an identifier in an industry rife with assumed (stage) names.

    They didn't give my photo back, though, even though I was never charged. I've been making jokes ever since that my picture now adorn the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office men's restroom.
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    YES! I was the door host and Manager for alot of club`s in Orlando. Florida! It`s called MBI metropolitan bereau of investigations. A so called regular "JOE" would sit in the bar collect info for a couple of hour`s and leave! Within a few minutes 10 -15 cop`s would come in the club shut down all registers . Have the DJ stop playing the music and they would arrest the offending entertainer and have the other entertainers bend over at the waste . Take a poloroid of their crotch area and if they had any Hair or out line of their stuff they would go to jail for lewd act`s It`s very tough!

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    I have been present during a raid. It is a long story and I have had a rather trying time at work tonight, so I'll make it short.

    This was a go-go club in northern CA. We had a juke box, no DJ. I went to put in a selection, turned to dance and WOW :o!!

    About six male officers w/ guns!!! They were looking for crank dealers that happened to be the bartender and bouncer, so they got taken in.

    Two guys who had been "regulars" turned out to be narcs. One of them really wanted to date me, so when the raid happened, he really was trying to get me in trouble for.....about anything he could think of. ( I think this was because I didn't date him

    It didn't work, and us girls were free to go.

    Really scary. Don't recommend it.

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    In my hometown where I started Dj'ing there were two clubs. A lot of bitter battles took place between them. Such things as if a dancer worked at one club she couldn't work at the other and vice versa.

    There were raids all the time on the newer of the two clubs. This was the one I worked at. Not only did we get stopped in the middle of a night for drug busts (never found any), we got cited for too many butts in the ashtrays, lack of lighting in the lower parking lot (it was a city owned pole that was out), noise ordinance, and a couple others that I forget.

    I left there in Aug of '02 and just got word about 3 months ago that the club closed and has since re-opened as a sports bar.

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    I was in a "roust" more than a raid in NYC; a roust because no one got arrested or cited for anything. About 10 NYPD came in and got on the P.A. and told everyone not to move. They milled around for 20=30 minutes, while I had a dancer sitting on my lap who had been told not to move.

    Then they told everyone to leave, so we all filed down the stairs and stood on the sidewalk for 5 minutes. I asked the dancer if she wanted to get a cup of coffee, and she suggested a nice Japanese restaurant around the corner where she got a bowl of soup. She did not feel like going back after that and, so I gave her a lift to the train station 2 blocks out of my way to the tunnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=5535;start=msg59776#msg59776 date=1072824328


    Well, at least in Dallas it appears that "excessive contact" contrary to the city ordinance is considered as a "violation" from a legal standpoint - meaning the issuance of tickets and the release of dancers on their own recognizance without cash bail prior to their court date.
    That is true, but the ticket is $500.00 and it costs about $2500.00 to fight it and hopefully get it dismissed. IF it is not dismissed and the woman is convicted, she is put on the list of sexual offenders. The conviction rate is pretty low, and mostly for women who cannot afford to fight it.

    A woman I know that got a ticket the other night had received her second in 6 months. She had just started at this club to get away from the last club. This club had not been raided in over a year. I feel so bad for her.

    It's total BS.

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    Keep in mind lilth,that in florida,they can and do send you citations through the mail.Around 7 years ago I was working at a club and they came in and were giving warnings(supposedly) to all the girls working,they took polaroids and wrote down are real names too.Suposedly they were just giving us warnings,well a few months latter we all got citations in the mail for lap dancing.We had to go to court and got 250$ fines.Shortly after this,they started lisencing for dancers,you had to get an occupational lisence,then they didnt come in the clubs anymore,they had our real names and sent citations through the mail,to all area dancers,they didnt have to prove anything in court either,just wrote up bogus reports,that girls were lap dancing.I found it funny because without them busting us on the spot how would they identify who did anything ilegal as the occupational lisece only had our real names on them,so if they were coming in undercover like they claimed they would have no idea who we were to send the citation to,hence we would have given the undercover officer a stage name.Oh well you cant question authority.

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    I was present during a raid once, but they were really only making rounds. I was on stage during a packed Friday, that had JUST gotten packed, btw, when about 15 cops stormed in wearing what looked like riot gear, and spread out to cover all doors and exits. No one was allowed to leave or go to the bathroom or dressing room. I hadn't been dancing long at the time and couldn't for the life of me figure out why I was not allowed to pee after my set! Some of them went into the dressing room, while the others just stood guard. They stayed for 20-30 minutes and left fairly quietly, but of course with the way they stormed in and all, it ruined the momentum for the rest of the shift. Guys were afraid to get dances or tip on stage. Alot of guys left after the cops left. Turned out they had brought in a dog through the back dressing room door and sniffed out a couple bags of weed, so 2 girls were arrested for that. They also took in a couple girls for outstanding warrants, most likely unpaid traffic tickets. They had the decency to bring the girls to the dressing room quietly and take them out through the back, instead of parading them in front of everybody. That was in Texas. After that I was glad to get back home from that trip!

    -----Of course little did I know at the time of the kind of raids that occur in some clubs in some areas. I have since learned to quietly keep my fingers crossed there isn't a raid where ever I am. Last thing I need is to be working during a raid where EVERYONE working in the club is arrested no matter what.

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    Both ALE and SBI have been into our current club; most of the time just checking it out. We have never had the police busting in, guns masks or no, at least while I was present!! However I have seen two girls fired for illegal contact in the VIP (basically, the manager takes them to the dressing room, allows them to gather their things, and escorts them to a cab- we aren't allowed to talk to them or say goodbye or even ask what they did) and many sent home for being drunk when it was suspected that we had ALE in the club.

    That must work because we have avoided the things I'm reading about here so far!!
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    Sounds like Texas and Florida are really terrible places with super corrupt cops. Vegas just passed some stupid law where the pigs are extorting $100 from strippers to get an "independent contractors liscense". That is on top of the $45 sherriffs card that we are already required to have. It's not like these pigs are actually interested in protecting our rights as so called "independent contractors". We don't have that kind of money or power which is why these dirtbags are able to bully us around so easily. Isn't that double extortion?
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    actually north fl is the only area of fl that you have to worry about a bust.
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    Sounds like Texas and Florida are really terrible places with super corrupt cops.
    IMHO, probably no more so than many other areas of the country. However, in other areas, cops usually have more important "targets" to focus their attention on. The factor that appears to matter most in the likelihood that clubs will be hassled in a particular area is the political climate, i.e. local city fathers directing the cops to bust clubs and generate headlines. Ironically, the factor that appears to matter least is the actual degree of "illegal" activities taking place inside the clubs (i.e. San Francisco clubs are NEVER busted) .

    Vegas just passed some stupid law where the pigs are extorting $100 from strippers to get an "independent contractors liscense". That is on top of the $45 sherriffs card that we are already required to have. It's not like these pigs are actually interested in protecting our rights as so called "independent contractors". We don't have that kind of money or power which is why these dirtbags are able to bully us around so easily. Isn't that double extortion?
    I agree that, on the surface, requiring dancers to obtain independent contractor's licenses along with cabdrivers, street vendors etc. is a scam to collect more money for the local government coffers. However, in a larger context, requiring dancers and other independent contractors to obtain independent contractor's licenses is probably a prelude to increased income tax enforcement. This is probably particularly true of Vegas, where the IRS and the casinos have just reached an "agreement" in regard to casinos automatically reporting the income of dealers, waitstaff etc (including reporting estimated tip income) to the IRS.

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    I've been lucky not to have been at clubs during raids on at least three occasions. Twice at a club in Mayagüez I went the night before raids (which are publicized by the way in PR media quite quickly). I also went to my usual club in San Juan some 4 nights before a big drug and prostitution bust. Lucky me!



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    Actually Velvet,they have been busing clubs in clearwater and new port richey on a regular basis,so its not just north florida,I also hear ft myers has been getting heat lately as well.

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