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    Have any Vegas girls payed the $100 fee for this liscense yet? Will out of state dancers have to buy this on top of the sherrifs card? At my club they are saying that we won't be able to work unless we have this by Jan. 15th. Are all Vegas clubs taking this stand?
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    I believe that this is somehow related to an IRS settlement with the Vegas casinos, where every person working in Vegas who is not considered an "employee" (i.e. who is paid in cash instead of receiving an employer paycheck) must now be registered as an "independent contractor" business. As to the future overtones in regard to income taxes, time will tell ...

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    I just found out the answer to my own question. Yes all dancers, even those from out of state will be required to pay $100 for this license. Melonie - you are right about the taxes. It's a way for the state to raise money because there are no personal income taxes in Nevada.
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    Default Re:Las Vegas Independent Contractor Liscense

    So how do we get one? do we get it when we get it when we get the work card?

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    You have to have this in addition to the Sherriffs Card. I think that you need to go to the Department of Taxation. I work at a club where they had people who filed it for us for an additional fee of $50. I have heard that the lines are super long. Basically you should plan to spend a large part of your day standing in line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by livenudegirlsunite link=board=4;threadid=5728;start=msg62013#msg62013 date=1073769119
    Have any Vegas girls payed the $100 fee for this liscense yet? Will out of state dancers have to buy this on top of the sherrifs card? At my club they are saying that we won't be able to work unless we have this by Jan. 15th. Are all Vegas clubs taking this stand?
    I started working at Treasures in Vegas this past weekend and got my Sheriff's card on Friday morning. No mention was made by anyone of the $100 card. I just paid the regular $35 and got one of the new non-laminated cards with holograms.
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    I spoke to the manager of Pleasures tonight and he said he had never heard of the independent contractors license requirement. My wife speculates that some of the big clubs have their dancers on schedules that would make them awfully close to employees under the law, and they are having them get the licenses to prove that they are not employees. Based on some of the discussions, that could well be the case.

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    Hi there! I'm working in Vegas right now and I only had to get my sheriff's card and have heard nothing about the business license thing at any of the clubs I checked out. Last week I worked at Strip tease and this week I've been working at SR, and neither one mentioned the IC license. I also went to Crazy Horse 2 and OG and only overheard a conversation about the the IC license at OG, but the gist of it was that OG isn't making the girls get one to work there.

    I would be willing to bet that this is more coming from the clubs that are worried about dancer orginization, and the possibility of a class action suit against them for back wages. Especially if they are particularly picky about how the girls do business while in the club (like dress code, schedules, music selection etc).

    On a side note, I would love to meet you Vegas folks while I'm here. PM me and we could get together for drinks and stuff. I will be here until about the 23rd of January or so. I have a few more clubs I want to work at while I'm here, and would love the input for everyone!

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    I work at Sapphire and have heard no mention of it either

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    I've got my $100 license!
    It's a simple piece of paper that has my name, home address, places where I perform at, and my "company name". It also says on it "POST IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE."
    (Like where? Should I tape it to my ass?)

    You have to go down to the Nevada Department of Taxation to get it. There are 2 of them...one in downtown Las Vegas and the other in Henderson. And no, the lines are not long...but then again, I did all my paperwork last month before the New Year's "deadline."

    I spent a whole 2 hours filing my paperwork...but that was because I had alot of questions and wanted to be absolutely sure of what was required. For example, there was one part of the form that asked for my personal bank account number and business bank account number. ( I put in those spaces "N/A not applicable" and still had my paperwork approved.) I spent about an hour and a half asking an employee there about various questions on the application. For someone who doesn't care what the hell she puts down, you could probably fill out this paperwork in 15 minutes. So, go on a Monday thru Wednesday, and you should be in and out of the office in about an hour.

    So far, the only clubs I know of handing out paperwork for the license is Olympic Gardens, Sapphire, and Crazy Horse Too. All the other clubs seem to be ignoring the issue.

    Now, will this licensing be enforced? When the clubs are now raided, will the vice officers ask to see you business license in addition to your sheriff's card? And if they are allowed to do that, will the clubs even bother to tell the girls this? This just all opens up one big can of worms and I thought it would be better to be safe than sorry, and part with $100 to keep my ass covered.

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    Now, will this licensing be enforced? When the clubs are now raided, will the vice officers ask to see you business license in addition to your sheriff's card? And if they are allowed to do that, will the clubs even bother to tell the girls this? This just all opens up one big can of worms and I thought it would be better to be safe than sorry, and part with $100 to keep my ass covered.
    That's the real question of course. Cops can certainly ask to see the Independent Contractor license of every dancer in any club they raid, can charge dancers with working without the necessary license, and the courts can levee fines based on whatever this particular law says the penalties can be for working without a license.

    I'm actually more concerned about the tax consequences of getting this license. It's a sure bet that IRS computers will be automatically reviewing tax returns seeking to match up license holders with tax returns actually having been filed and a reasonable amount of taxes actually having been paid. Even if a girl was only going to work in Nevada for a few weeks, having her real name and address listed on the license and handed to the IRS will also likely result in the rest of her dancing activities for the year being scrutinized as well.

    The only rough info about this which I could find on the net is from the City of Henderson website -

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    Quote Originally Posted by livenudegirlsunite link=board=4;threadid=5728;start=msg62498#msg62498 date=1073936282
    I work at a club where they had people who filed it for us for an additional fee of $50.
    damn . . . . where i work, they filed all of ours for us and didn't charge us any extra. then again, i work in one of the smaller clubs. i just gave the manager my paperwork and the hundred bucks and it got taken care of.

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    I'm a newbie, so I've never heard of a sheriff's card. I'd like to try to dance in Vegas before looking for a club near home. What is this sheriff's card all about? Do they require it anywhere other than Vegas?

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    Its a Vegas only thing. To do certain jobs in LV, including all casino work, I think, you need a Sheriff's card, which I think verifies you aren't a wanted criminal. The trick is that to dance you need a sheriff's card, but you need a referral from a club to get a sherriff's card. Kind of a catch-22. However, probably no club will hire you without one.

    http://lasvegas.about.com/cs/assista...eriff_Card.htm has a write-up on how to get one.

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    you can get hired without a card . . . . you go audition somewhere and if they like you, you tell them you don't have a card. they give you this yellow paper to take to the office to get one. most clubs keep a big stack of referral sheets around, pre-signed. then when you have your card, you can come work.
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    Right...it just makes it harder to come to town knowing you have to get a referral to work, so you have to audition with no certainty of being able to get a job.

    The good part is that you could get a slip from, say, Treasures and use it to work at Olympic Garden. Once you have the card, you can go anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVJosh link=board=4;threadid=5728;start=msg62643#msg62643 date=1073974108
    My wife speculates that some of the big clubs have their dancers on schedules that would make them awfully close to employees under the law, and they are having them get the licenses to prove that they are not employees.
    At CH2, I had to learn the hard way that they like the dancers to be very reliable with the times that they work (a certain # of hours and days). I got put down to the crappy shifts because I was not reliable. I was used to being able to work 2-4 hours a day when ever I felt like it. Now I am having to work super long shifts four days a week prove to the managers that I can be reliable. I wonder if the other clubs who are enforcing this also have a non spoken strict "employee" requirement. It makes since that the big clubs would have this. Not having any schedule leads to chaos as far as way too many dancers showing up or not showing up. In the major clubs it can cause big problems as far the as dancer : customer ratio is concerned.
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    I was used to being able to work 2-4 hours a day when ever I felt like it. Now I am having to work super long shifts four days a week prove to the managers that I can be reliable. I wonder if the other clubs who are enforcing this also have a non spoken strict "employee" requirement. It makes since that the big clubs would have this. Not having any schedule leads to chaos as far as way too many dancers showing up or not showing up.
    This may very well be an ulterior motive for the new requirement that dancers obtain Independent Contractor business licenses. There is a large body of legal precedent which supports the position that if a club specifically controls/requires its workers to work specific shifts of specific hours on specific days, if the club establishes and enforces rules in regard to attendance, dress code, or other activities, that the degree of control being exercized upon the workers classifies them as "employees" under the law. However, being classified as "employees" also brings into effect labor laws which require that the club pay for workmen's comp, unemployment insurance etc. and also that the club pay for 1/2 of the "employee"'s Social Security tax. Additionally, being classified as "employees" brings into effect other labor laws which prevent arbitrary firings without just cause, workplace safety laws etc., as well as automatic income reporting and tax withholding by the club on behalf of the "employees".

    If the club's business model is such that the IRS might rule that it is treating its dancers as "employees", this could potentially result in tens of thousands of extra dollars in expenses to the club. To possibly avoid such an IRS ruling, and the extra costs to the club which would stem from such a ruling, the fact that dancers are required to obtain Independent Contractor licenses can be used as a strong argument that the dancers should be treated as independent contractors despite the degree of "employee" control that the clubs wish to exercise.

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    Wasn't one of the goals of the Dancer's Alliance in Las Vegas to have the dancers treated as employees so they could be eligible for benefits like health care?

    Does anyone have any info on whether the DA is still active?

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    Will this new state business license work for both Las Vegas and Reno? I'm looking at the application now and it's confusing. Here is the form: http://tax.state.nv.us/taxnew/docume...gistration.pdf


    I need help with questions:

    (1) - Do I check "State business license"?
    (2) - Am I a new business because I haven't gotten a state license before (even though I'm licensed individually in both Las Vegas and Reno)?
    (3) - I do own a corporation name. Are there advantages or disadvantages for putting it down instead of just using my real name?
    ( - Do I need to write down the addresses for all the different Nevada clubs I work at? Will this be verified? What if I later get hired at one that isn't on my list?
    (12) - I've worked in Nevada for a few years. Do I put the date I'm applying on the application, or so I put when I first started dancing in Nevada?
    (13) - Do I check "Live Entertainment" or "Adult Materials/Activity"?
    (14) - Should I put "nude and topless exotic dancer" or does it need to be more descriptive than that (listing lapdancing, etc)?


    Here's the second form: http://tax.state.nv.us/taxnew/docume...12-03-03_2.pdf
    What do the need this information for? It's all very personal.

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    Hmm, maybe I can help answer some of your questions.

    1. Yes, its a state business license.

    8. You're supposed to write down all locations of all the clubs you currently dance at. If you want to change or add on a locations, you simple go back to the office and fill out the form again, stating that you want to add on another business location. There is no extra charge for doing this later on.

    13. and 14. You need to check "Live Entertainment" and for the description, simply put "dancer". You do not need to put down topless dancer, lapdancer, etc.

    The other questions you are going to have to see your accountant/CPA for.

    I hope this helps a little bit! Also, the employees at your local Nevada Dept. of Taxation will help you answer some of these questions too.

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