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    Hi everyone,

    Just wanted to let you know that there is a story in this month's issue of Cosmo about three different girls who got into stripping. The story is called "Why I Strip". The girls talk about how and why they got into dancing, and what they like and don't like about it.

    I didn't like two things about the story. First, within the story, there is a smaller article titled "A Disturbing Connection: The dark reason some women strip." This article suggests that many strippers were sexually abused as children, and some strippers would never have gotten into stripping if it weren't for their bad childhood. I had a pretty normal childhood and I was never abused in any way. Yes, I'm sure that there are strippers who were abused as children, but there are also women with "normal" jobs that were abused as well. Articles like this piss me off; they just perpetuate the general public's stereotype of us that we all come from "screwed up" backgrounds.

    Second, one of the dancers that the article talks about works at Tens in Manhattan. The article says that she can make $2000 in an 8-hour shift on a good night. Yes it's possible, but it's not the norm all over the country, especially in this economy. Hopefully girls who are not dancers don't read this article and think that all dancers make this kind of money on a regular basis, and then get into the business only to be disappointed. Dancers can make excellent money on a good night, but on a bad night we can walk out with $100 or less and the article didn't mention that. And when we do happen to make good money, you better believe we bust our ass for it!






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    i wish our cosmo was the same.... i would send an email to the editor.
    Maybe one or a few of you girls should do that, it would be intresting to see if they print it in their readers section.

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    Maybe there are a lot of girls that were abused that go into dancing...like proportionately higher than go into other occupations. I don't think they are saying a lot of dancers have been abused, but a lot of abused girls go into dancing. I'd be interested in knowing moe about this. I can see how this job would be attractive to a girl who wants to leave home early and never had the encouragement to be anything greater. I'm not putting down dancing at all, but I feel bad for the women in it who have to do it because it's all there is versus women who do it because they want to do it after having the opportunity to try their other options.

    As for the lure of big money bringing girls in...I don't htink that's necessarily true. A lot of women are just not comfortable with this, and thats fine. it's not for everyone. Think of it like this....we know thre is a lot more money to be made in escorting, but we choose not to do it because we are not comfortable with job requirements! Also, you can't deny that it's good money. Even if you are making $200 on an 8-hour shift, that's still $25/hr, which a lot of women would be thrilled to earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily link=board=1;threadid=5963;start=msg64925#msg64925 date=1074635793
    Also, you can't deny that it's good money. Even if you are making $200 on an 8-hour shift, that's still $25/hr, which a lot of women would be thrilled to earn.
    That's true. It's hard to find a straight job these days that pays $25 an hour, even if you have a college degree. Plus having a flexible schedule instead of having to work 9-5 5 days a week is a nice perk too. I tried the 9-5 thing and I hated it; I'm not a morning person at all.






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    This article suggests that many strippers were sexually abused as children, and some strippers would never have gotten into stripping if it weren't for their bad childhood.
    This train of thought is most likely meant to perpetuate the "urban myth" that most dancers are the previous victims of sexual abuse, which in turn allows "normal" Cosmo readers to pity dancers and to think of them as "less than equal" women, while at the same time appearing to support them.

    Second, one of the dancers that the article talks about works at Tens in Manhattan. The article says that she can make $2000 in an 8-hour shift on a good night. Yes it's possible, but it's not the norm all over the country, especially in this economy.
    Publishing comments such as this in a national magazine is virtually GUARANTEED to draw the attention of official sources. The $2000 a night figure published is only going to reinforce the stereotype impression that New York City dancers are earning $500,000 a year and not paying taxes on any of that income! If I were a dancer who worked in New York City in the past year, I would be really careful in regard to filing my tax return. With New York's budget deficit, it's highly probable that New York City clubs like Tens are going to receive a lot of extra attention from State tax collectors as a result of this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=5963;start=msg64933#msg64933 date=1074638443
    This article suggests that many strippers were sexually abused as children, and some strippers would never have gotten into stripping if it weren't for their bad childhood.
    This train of thought is most likely meant to perpetuate the "urban myth" that most dancers are the previous victims of sexual abuse, which in turn allows "normal" Cosmo readers to pity dancers and to think of them as "less than equal" women, while at the same time appearing to support them.

    Second, one of the dancers that the article talks about works at Tens in Manhattan. The article says that she can make $2000 in an 8-hour shift on a good night. Yes it's possible, but it's not the norm all over the country, especially in this economy.
    Publishing comments such as this in a national magazine is virtually GUARANTEED to draw the attention of official sources. The $2000 a night figure published is only going to reinforce the stereotype impression that New York City dancers are earning $500,000 a year and not paying taxes on any of that income! If I were a dancer who worked in New York City in the past year, I would be really careful in regard to filing my tax return. With New York's budget deficit, it's highly probable that New York City clubs like Tens are going to receive a lot of extra attention from State tax collectors as a result of this article.
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    I am going to pick up the new Cosmo..I am curious to read the article.
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    LOL You beat me to it. I got my cosmo today and read that article. I also get PlayBoy too. Love those magazines
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    I'll have to go pick it up. I read an article before I started stripping, and though I would have done it any way, it definately did give me another incentive. Not just the money, but the attention, and they made it out to be so glamorous. Its deffinately nothing like they portrayed, but I stick with it for the freedom. Its not the focus of my life, I just work enough to pay bills, and be able to go places if I choose.
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    ng: Wow!! I just got my issue of Cosmo today also and came across this article. I totally agree with every1 about the "a lot of strippers were sexually abused as children" part. I for one was not sexually abused and a majority of the dancers I've worked with have never been either. I dislike articles like this one in a main stream mag. I will write the editor about this and I hope other dancers follow too. This is misleading to all the women out there that are whatever age. They read this thinking that they can make the BIG BUCKS by dancing. Which others have mentioned there are the ups and downs of dancing. Women will get there hopes up and them get them crushed when they figure out that its not all that its cracked up to be.
    Cosmo needs top look into this industry more next time before they publish an article again. They neglected to mention that there is alot of BS that we dancers put up with from the male customers and female customers, the management, the bouncers, the DJs, other dancers, etc. Plus the constint jackass trying to touch and grab and so on.
    We already have many labels put on us because we are dancers. Not all of us break the rules, get drunk, do drugs, etc. Cosmo needs to let the readers know that it takes a very tough, strong willed women to do this job. And many new, and old, women that come into this industry get sucked into the drugs, drinking, prostitution and so. Only us strong dancers and the dancers that have family stick by them, usually help those dancers if their lucky enough to get help.
    In closing, Cosmo should make there next article the Behind the scenes of being a dancer, the real version!!!!!
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    everyone should write them a letter. They do post the readers letters, even some that are negative. we should all write a letter and tell them that their article SUCKS lol

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    isnt that stereotype terrible? uuu she strips, she must have been abused bla bla bla.....its SOOO outdated......

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    I plan to pick up a copy in a few hours at the airport...all these comments have certainly piqued my curiosity.
    However, for those of you who plan to write in please be aware that at a lot of times Cosmo STAFFERS write the letters you see in the readers response section. Also, their writers often make things up for articles. It's not like the New York Times where they're supposed to be reporting cold, hard news. They make up entire "characters" in terms of age and backgound, and make up accompanying quotes.
    How do I know this? A high school acquaintance of mine works for them and told me so herself. It just bugs me that most readers won't know this and will assume everything is true...
    I'm sure they'll get a lot of letters from angry dancers. After all, how many times have we seen copies of Cosmo in dressing rooms?
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    Cosmo has had stripper articles before, seems like they now follow Jane and Complete Woman amoung others who have been writing about strippers. I never believe most of what is written. They need to grab the attention of the reader so they "beef up" certain details it seems.

    Sad for the industry, and misleading too.

    I read an article about phone sex in Womans Own I believe a few months back, BS. Alot of what was said was crap. PSO's don't do that. Ok, maybe the ones on the phone who are not really doing a "job".

    The article told how these ladies cheat guys. Whoa! Not good for us honest PSO's. Or dancers.

    Again seeing both sides of the business has is good points. But don't teach women how to scam guys for money in a very popular magazine.
    Better yet, not scam period. That mag. lost me as a buyer.

    I know where that article came from, and who wrote it, may not have been a woman, but a guy who has "some" knowledge about phone sex, for a popular phone sex co. Or she herself was quoted a few times, either way......WRONG info.



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    There is a great deal of academic research on strippers, but only one study I could find about the personality and background of strippers. I could not find the text of it on the net, but it is a study from the University of Pennsylvania and summarized here. http://www.geocities.com/ralphy_boy2000/

    For those of you of an intellectual bent there is some very interesting reading at these sites:
    http://www.ccv.org/images/Strip_club..._and_study.PDF
    http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol10is1/bernard.pdf

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    Facts are that 1 in 4 women are sexually abused sometime in their lifetime. IMO, I don't think being sexually abused directly influences whether or not a girl decides to become a stripper (of course, there are indirect ways it might affect it--a young girl is abused, decides to move out to get away, falls into poverty, works as a stripper to earn money to support herself). Also, I don't think many people have thought about the situation in reverse. Maybe what it is is that those girls who are strippers are more comfortable with talking about their sexuality (past, present, etc) and they more readily admit to being sexually abused whereas a "normal" girl might not feel open enough to talk about that kind of thing.
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    Just to put in my $.02, for what it's worth: I'm certainly not saying this is true of all strippers, or even the majority of them, nor am I saying there is a higher percentage of sexual abuse survivors in this profession than in any other (since I have not seen unbiased statistics), BUT I can see how sexual abuse survivors would be attracted to this profession. They've been indirectly taught by their abusers (who are often their fathers or father-figures, or at least older men) that the only thing men would ever want them for are their bodies and they're not good for anything else, and as they get older, they tend to seek out attention from men based on their bodies or their appearance, at best by dressing provocatively and habitually flirting, and at worst becoming very promiscuous. They base their self-worth on their bodies and it's the only way they know how to feel loved. Or, they can go the complete opposite way, being ashamed of their bodies and sexuality and being deathly afraid of male attention, but for those who seek it out, stripping certainly provides an outlet for that psychological need. They probably wouldn't last long, but I can see how it would be attractive to them.

    I'm not saying it's good or bad or even applies to any random stripper. All I'm saying is, having known sexual abuse survivors and seen the way the abuse has affected them without proper treatment, I can see how it would happen.

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    I have certainly heard my share of many stories from inside bathroom stalls from dancers speaking of being molested. Usually a family member was the person who has performed the act on them. It seems alot of dancers have been molested, seriously. And they will talk about the incident. Most it seems.

    Sad.

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    well....this thread has made me do somet thinking...

    no i don't like the article. it would be nice if it tried to make people understand that dancers better.

    my reactions:

    i have a few different jobs. i am a photographer in a portrait studio, and i know it didn't say strippers are whores or anything, but this stereotype pisses me off so much. anyways portrait studio. the girls who work there have no plans for college, are 16 and pregnant, think that they are aspiring super models (which there is no way in hell), and that their current bf's are gonna be there forever...i guess we'll say that they make poor decisions or have bad luck. that's cool i don't not like them because of that. however at the strip club the girls actually seem more wholesome (?). yeah we take our clothes off for money, but most of them are there to help put themselves through college. our parents haven't spoiled us and pay for everything for us, tuition, car, cellphones, rent, clothes, food etc, like everyone else who goes here. the dancers usually are more responsible for themselves, their money. (and pam not to look like i'm talking about this incident for attn) yeah i was raped, it wasn't repeatedly or anything, but this guy attacked me, beat me up, and raped me. it took me sooo long to even be able to look at a guy. let alone want to take my clothes off for anyone voluntarily?? i hardly talk about this, it's my buisness, not any customer's, and i this didn't have an affect on why i chose to dance. and besides if i can make a living flirting with guys, shakin my thang, and lookin cute, why shouldn't i?

    my other reaction that i'm going to school for magazine journalism. and yes stripping is paying my bills to a very good (expensive) journalism school so that major publications such as that will look at me for as intern or hire me down the road.


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    that article to me does not seem to be well put togather its basically feeding the minds of those who believe in what society think stripping is supposed to to be like and not what the true reality of it is ...i to disagree with the ...it talks about the econy ony how no matter how slow the economy seem strippers always seem to band ...this is totally bs....i think they need to redo that article cause from a dancers point of view it is totally crap ...its just basically telling people/society what they wanna hear
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    I am sending a letter to their editor and I'm also curious... Does anyone know where they get their information from?


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    Well in the side article it said something about it had never been proven, so why the fuck are they throwing numbers and stuff like that? If you can't prove it and you didn't do a clinical study on it, what the hell, why even add it?

    All that article did was add more fuel to the fire to the people that don't want me stripping!

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    They got that information from me!! I am the blond in that article named Nina and I work at Penthouse not Tens. I was told to give my own story about my own experiences on strippping. This article was about my personal experience and was not supposed to reflect the life of strippers all over the country. I think too many people are misunderstanding the purpose of the article. The writer asked me if I ever make 2,000 in one night and I answered yes but not all the time.(I usually make this when a regular comes in once every 2 weeks) I dont think anyone should be offended by the article- its not painting a picture for all strippers, its just telling the story of me and 2 other strippers who work in NY.

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    Oh I forgot to mention the clinical study they had at the end about abuse. None of us knew about this and I know Im pissed!!! I will definatly write or call them to bitch about them not telling us this.

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    I agree with Chrissy. The indevidual dancers were adding their own experiances, and I did not think that was bad. In fact, it showed a pretty diverse outlook on the industry from these different sources and showed that these girls work hard and have normal lives-school, boyfriends, etc.. I do think that the side article was in poor taste. I bet that because they didn't get any real dirt from the real girls, they added their own, because we all know that sex and drama sells! Just ask Springer!

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