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    I am looking into hypnotherapy because i think this will help me with some underlying issues that i am still dealing with due to my childhood and teenage years....

    I wanted to hear from those of you who have first hand experience with hypnosis or if you know of anyone who does.... How was it for you/them? Did it work? What happened during the sessions?

    Thanx in advance.... Seraya


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    Hello Seraya.
    This is my first post here.I'm a married bloke from the UK too.Much further north than you though.I've been to a hypnotherapist,as has my wife and we both found it very beneficial.Obviously,there's a lot more detail to the story.If you'd like to know more detail,let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65854#msg65854 date=1074896518
    I am looking into hypnotherapy because i think this will help me with some underlying issues that i am still dealing with due to my childhood and teenage years....

    I wanted to hear from those of you who have first hand experience with hypnosis or if you know of anyone who does.... How was it for you/them? Did it work? What happened during the sessions?
    First, not everyone can be hypnotized. 5% of the general population cannot be. I myself cannot be and I've had a number of hypnotists try. Too bad since I see the value one can obtain by hypnosis. In college, I did a full-scale business plan for a hynotherapy clinic and thus researched it thoroughly. That and I had my psychology professors sign off on the business plan on its cover letter.

    Hypnotherapy is best used to change what you'd like to change about yourself. Things hypnotherapy is good for:
    +changing or eliminating a bad habit.
    +developing a good habit (like going to the gym each morning).
    +and other things that most people don't view as habit-related but can be, such as better social skills, better sex, becoming more assertive, and so forth.

    However, hypnotherapy isn't a catch-all magic pill. Hypnotherapy is very poor at memory retrieval. The further back the memory, the less reliable it is. The problem is that we do not remember things as they are, but as we preceived them and, even worse, how our unconscious mind preceives them today. Then there's the horror stories of childhood abuse (physical, mental, and/or sexual) that hypnosis supposedly unearth but which never happened. During the 80's, "repressed" memories unearthed by hypnosis destroyed families, marriages, and long-time friendships and were later to be shown to be completely false. Due to this, hypnotherapy has fallen out of favor with a lot of psychotherapists.

    You see hypnosis is basically a creative process, but one few understand. To understand just how creative it can be, hypnosis can not only take you back to your childhood memories, it can take you back into the womb and before you were born. Those that believe in reincarnation love hypnosis for this reason. Of course, the common joke among psychologists is that no one ever discovers in regression hypnosis they were just an ordinary peasant. It's always someone important. And there is in lies the flag which identifies what regression hypnosis really is.

    If you want to deal with childhood and teenage issues, I recommend you just talk to a regular psychotherapist. I'd recommend you read up on the different schools in psychology, determine which you agree most with, and seek out a psychotherapist that is from that school. And by "school" I do not mean an education institution but a "school of thought" such as behaviorism, Jungian, existentialism, and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65902#msg65902 date=1074906059
    Hello Seraya.
    This is my first post here.I'm a married bloke from the UK too.Much further north than you though.I've been to a hypnotherapist,as has my wife and we both found it very beneficial.Obviously,there's a lot more detail to the story.If you'd like to know more detail,let me know.
    Hi squiggles, welcome to SW!

    Thanx for the response i have found a very good psychotherapist/hypnotist in harley st london that i am very interested in...... So yes i would love to know more about your experience ( i'll send you a PM )

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    Hi Pumpkin Pie....

    Thank you ever so much for responding.... I just wanted to address some of the points you made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    First, not everyone can be hypnotized. 5% of the general population cannot be. I myself cannot be and I've had a number of hypnotists try.
    Y'know this is something i have also wondered myself.... from what i have read, Hypnosis is an altered state of consciousness where your body is deeply relaxed but your mind becomes sharpened & more focused and during this you have a heightened sense of awareness.

    "Other hypnotic states include daydreaming, doing things on autopilot, i.e. on the highway, being engrossed in a television programme or a good book, where we are oblivious to distractions around us & respond as if in the situation on television/in the book, due to a change in awareness. Music also produces altered states of consciousness" - londonhypnothereapy.net

    If the above quote is true, well, i do this several times aday.... I'm constantly daydreaming ( i used to get in trouble for this when i was a kid ) and also when i listen to music i seem to go into a very deep state of mind. So hopefully i will be able to be hypnotised but hey we'll soon see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    Hypnotherapy is best used to change what you'd like to change about yourself. Things hypnotherapy is good for:
    +changing or eliminating a bad habit.
    +developing a good habit (like going to the gym each morning).
    +and other things that most people don't view as habit-related but can be, such as better social skills, better sex, becoming more assertive, and so forth.


    If you want to deal with childhood and teenage issues, I recommend you just talk to a regular psychotherapist.
    Sorry my post wasn't very clear.... The reason i want to try hypnotherapy is because i have a social phobia/lack of confidence/nerves about something which i think is a result of incidents/issues that i encountered as teenager ( around age 12, 13 ).

    The problem is that even though this doesn't effect my every day life it effects my career goals ( not stripping btw ) and this is something i want to eliminate before starting school ( i'll be studying the performing arts ).

    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207


    I'd recommend you read up on the different schools in psychology, determine which you agree most with, and seek out a psychotherapist that is from that school. And by "school" I do not mean an education institution but a "school of thought" such as behaviorism, Jungian, existentialism, and such.

    Thank you for the tip i will definitely read up on the different schools in psychology before making my final decision...Also If you don't mind i may want to ask for your advice and input again.

    Thanx again Seraya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66041#msg66041 date=1074957134
    Hi Pumpkin Pie....

    Thank you ever so much for responding.... I just wanted to address some of the points you made.
    Sure. Ask and ye shall receive. Just realize that I'm not a trained psychotherapist. I just have a BA in psychology, raised by a professor of psychology, and was surrounded by psychologists of one sort or another who were family friends.

    And in case you're wondering, the reason I didn't become a psychotherapist was simply it is one of the hardest jobs there is. Hard on your soul. It isn't by chance that psychotherapists have the second highest suicide rate by profession. Having said all that...

    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66041#msg66041 date=1074957134
    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    First, not everyone can be hypnotized. 5% of the general population cannot be. I myself cannot be and I've had a number of hypnotists try.
    Y'know this is something i have also wondered myself.... from what i have read, Hypnosis is an altered state of consciousness where your body is deeply relaxed but your mind becomes sharpened & more focused and during this you have a heightened sense of awareness.

    "Other hypnotic states include daydreaming, doing things on autopilot, i.e. on the highway, being engrossed in a television programme or a good book, where we are oblivious to distractions around us & respond as if in the situation on television/in the book, due to a change in awareness. Music also produces altered states of consciousness" - londonhypnothereapy.net

    If the above quote is true, well, i do this several times aday.... I'm constantly daydreaming ( i used to get in trouble for this when i was a kid ) and also when i listen to music i seem to go into a very deep state of mind. So hopefully i will be able to be hypnotised but hey we'll soon see.
    Everyone daydreams. I do and I'm one of the 5% that cannot be hypnotized. Whether or not you can be hypnotized thus has little to do with whether or not you daydream.

    There are many theories why some cannot be hypnotized. Some believe such individuals are control freaks. Some believe they're control freaks not necessarily of others but definitely of themselves and their minds. Other believe it is a trust issue. The less you trust someone, the less their chance of hypnotizing you. Others believe that the more educated you become, the less you'll be susceptible to being hypnotized. Still others believe it might be biological in nature.

    Whatever the reason, it just means someone else cannot hypnotize you. It doesn't mean that you haven't been hypnotized by other things, such as the dashed line on a long straight highway in Montana at night. The only way you can know if you can be hypnotized by someone else is by having someone try to hypnotize you.

    Also realize that different people can be taken to different "depths" of the hypnotic state. The deeper the depth you can be taken, the more you'll get out of hypnotherapy. Some can reach deeper states of hypnosis after repeat sessions and other can only go so deep and that's it. Again, the only way you'll know how low you can go is by being hypnotized. And if your hypnotist is a professional, they'll be testing your hypnotic state and thus know the depth you can reach. Different depths require different therapy strategies.

    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66041#msg66041 date=1074957134
    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    Hypnotherapy is best used to change what you'd like to change about yourself. Things hypnotherapy is good for:
    +changing or eliminating a bad habit.
    +developing a good habit (like going to the gym each morning).
    +and other things that most people don't view as habit-related but can be, such as better social skills, better sex, becoming more assertive, and so forth.


    If you want to deal with childhood and teenage issues, I recommend you just talk to a regular psychotherapist.
    Sorry my post wasn't very clear.... The reason i want to try hypnotherapy is because i have a social phobia/lack of confidence/nerves about something which i think is a result of incidents/issues that i encountered as teenager ( around age 12, 13 ).
    If you want to PM what those incidents/issues are and what you believe to be the social phobia/nerves/etc. that you attribute to that event, I might be able to tell you how hypnotherapy may or may not be able to help you.

    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66041#msg66041 date=1074957134
    The problem is that even though this doesn't effect my every day life it effects my career goals ( not stripping btw ) and this is something i want to eliminate before starting school ( i'll be studying the performing arts ).
    Understandable.

    Quote Originally Posted by seraya (london) link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66041#msg66041 date=1074957134
    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207


    I'd recommend you read up on the different schools in psychology, determine which you agree most with, and seek out a psychotherapist that is from that school. And by "school" I do not mean an education institution but a "school of thought" such as behaviorism, Jungian, existentialism, and such.

    Thank you for the tip i will definitely read up on the different schools in psychology before making my final decision...Also If you don't mind i may want to ask for your advice and input again.

    Thanx again Seraya.
    You're welcomed and if you have any other question, I'll try help out as far as I can.

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    I saw a hypnotherapist for a while to deal with my childhood issues, maybe she wasnt suited to me, or it is hard for me to be hypnotised. I found that it didnt work on me very well, but I found I could talk to her, so we ended up doing that instead of hypnotising. I want to try a diff person though to see if it was just her, or if I cant be hypnotised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss courtney link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66821#msg66821 date=1075071205
    I saw a hypnotherapist for a while to deal with my childhood issues, maybe she wasnt suited to me, or it is hard for me to be hypnotised. I found that it didnt work on me very well, but I found I could talk to her, so we ended up doing that instead of hypnotising. I want to try a diff person though to see if it was just her, or if I cant be hypnotised.
    Hypnotherapy isn't really good for dealing with childhood issues. The most it does is allow you to relax and let what your subconscious mind (your uninhibited mind) say what it thinks went on then. That's it. What it recalls is NOT what happened. Sorry. Human brains are not video recorders. Our brains are barely able to recall the name of the person we met at the bar last night.

    If you want to deal with childhood issues, you can do two things:

    1) You can talk to a psychotherapist.

    2) You can talk to a close friend.

    The difference between those two is that your close friend knows you, cares about you, won't shut you up at the end of an hour, and doesn't have an economic interest to keep you talking for years on the couch.

    The negative thing about talking to one of your close friends is if your close friend is a moron. And that's where psychotherapists get us. They know we know our friends are morons. They also realize that we think psychotherapists aren't. Note the word "think" in that last sentence.

    Seriously, if you have an intelligent close friend that understands human nature, they're probably better for you than a psychotherapist. If you don't have such a friend or feel uncomfortable baring your soul to a close friend (but not a complete stranger), give psychotherapists a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66875#msg66875 date=1075078537
    Quote Originally Posted by miss courtney link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66821#msg66821 date=1075071205
    I saw a hypnotherapist for a while to deal with my childhood issues, maybe she wasnt suited to me, or it is hard for me to be hypnotised. I found that it didnt work on me very well, but I found I could talk to her, so we ended up doing that instead of hypnotising. I want to try a diff person though to see if it was just her, or if I cant be hypnotised.
    Hypnotherapy isn't really good for dealing with childhood issues. The most it does is allow you to relax and let what your subconscious mind (your uninhibited mind) say what it thinks went on then. That's it. What it recalls is NOT what happened. Sorry. Human brains are not video recorders. Our brains are barely able to recall the name of the person we met at the bar last night.

    If you want to deal with childhood issues, you can do two things:

    1) You can talk to a psychotherapist.

    2) You can talk to a close friend.

    The difference between those two is that your close friend knows you, cares about you, won't shut you up at the end of an hour, and doesn't have an economic interest to keep you talking for years on the couch.

    The negative thing about talking to one of your close friends is if your close friend is a moron. And that's where psychotherapists get us. They know we know our friends are morons. They also realize that we think psychotherapists aren't. Note the word "think" in that last sentence.

    Seriously, if you have an intelligent close friend that understands human nature, they're probably better for you than a psychotherapist. If you don't have such a friend or feel uncomfortable baring your soul to a close friend (but not a complete stranger), give psychotherapists a try.
    That is really good advice thanks Pumpkin Pie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    However, hypnotherapy isn't a catch-all magic pill. Hypnotherapy is very poor at memory retrieval. The further back the memory, the less reliable it is. The problem is that we do not remember things as they are, but as we preceived them and, even worse, how our unconscious mind preceives them today. Then there's the horror stories of childhood abuse (physical, mental, and/or sexual) that hypnosis supposedly unearth but which never happened. During the 80's, "repressed" memories unearthed by hypnosis destroyed families, marriages, and long-time friendships and were later to be shown to be completely false. Due to this, hypnotherapy has fallen out of favor with a lot of psychotherapists.
    How does hypnotherapy cause false memories ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrah_Holiday link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg66915#msg66915 date=1075083673
    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpkin Pie link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg65952#msg65952 date=1074922207

    However, hypnotherapy isn't a catch-all magic pill. Hypnotherapy is very poor at memory retrieval. The further back the memory, the less reliable it is. The problem is that we do not remember things as they are, but as we preceived them and, even worse, how our unconscious mind preceives them today. Then there's the horror stories of childhood abuse (physical, mental, and/or sexual) that hypnosis supposedly unearth but which never happened. During the 80's, "repressed" memories unearthed by hypnosis destroyed families, marriages, and long-time friendships and were later to be shown to be completely false. Due to this, hypnotherapy has fallen out of favor with a lot of psychotherapists.
    How does hypnotherapy cause false memories ?
    Because we cannot remember things exactly as they are. Period. The courts have long known this and thus why eyewitness testimony is anything but reliable. Unfortunately, we're forcing minds to try under hypnosis. Under hypnosis our subconscious mind fills in the gaps. And the further back we try to remember, the bigger the gaps. Now add to this an underlying hate, love, or whatever for what you're trying to remember under hypnosis. That underlying emotion being what your irrational subconscious feels. Now guess how your mind fills in the gaps. On top of this, your subconscious has to make sense of it all and those same emotions weave the story to its liking. Presto! False memories.
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    Ah gotcha !!
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    I have practiced self-hypnosis off and on during my life, with varying degrees of success. I have never been hypnotized by anyone else.

    It can be very effective with things like attitude and performance (this can come in very handy for DJs and dancers). I used it with great effect in college for tests and the like. It will help you deal with lots of things much more effectively, even behavior patterns from childhood--though this will require lots of work.

    As Pumpkin Pie says, it will NOT resolve chilhood issues, it just makes it easier to deal with them.

    Like most things, it gets easier and better with practice. When I was doing it a lot, I once hypnotized myself, as an experiment, to raise my arm and--just like out of a goddamned horror movie--my arm jerked in small stages right up there, like I was possessed. It was VERY strange, but it convinced me of the power of hypnosis, that's for sure.

    It is really not like being asleep, though it can help you fall asleep (and let you program some excellent dreams if you are so inclined, LOL). It is like your body is asleep, and your brain is awake--but in a totally calm and focused manner.

    The problem I have found with hypnosis is that when I need it the most is when it is hardest to do. I am a restless and sometimes impatient person, so if I am stressed it becomes almost impossible to relax enough to enter the hypnotic state. If things are going well for me I can overcome this more easily.

    I think the closest state to hypnosis would be not so much daydreaming, which is easily interrupted, but intense prayer or meditation. I believe that the reason that prayer works so well for so many people is that they are actually in a state of hypnosis.

    Visualization is the key to success, and intense visualization in a totally relaxed and totally receptive state of being can really help get you what you want.
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    Hi Seraya,

    I guess you will have to the victim of my first post, so please overlook any mistakes.
    I will have to disagree with those who say hypnotism can"t help
    with problems from the past.
    My wife was pregnant with our second and going to a Dr. that used hynoptism for chidbirth and although he never was able to convince her to use it for that purpose they uncovered the root of fear of Drs. and hospitals.
    As a teenager she had an appendix rupture, it was 25 miles to the
    hospital so the whole ordeal left her with this fear. After this was brought to light she could spent more time in and around hospitals than anyone eles I know.
    The thing I have found in life is that there few hard and fast rules when it comes to medicine, one thing may work for and do nothing for you.
    I hope I have been some help to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccand7 link=board=1;threadid=6032;start=msg67060#msg67060 date=1075129965
    I will have to disagree with those who say hypnotism can"t help with problems from the past.
    That wouldn't be me. What I have been saying is that memory retrieval by hypnosis is flawed and thus shouldn't be trusted. Using it to reveal what you (namely your subconscious) feel about what you think has happened in the past is fine. This a psychotherapist can use in their treatment of you. Believing that what you recall under hypnosis actually happened has long been proven to be at best unreliable.
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    "I will have to disagree with those who say hypnotism can"t help
    with problems from the past." ccand7

    That wouldn't be me either. What I said was that it would not RESOLVE issues brought about during childhood. I did say it could help deal with them.

    I am willing to concede that being able to deal with them might conceivably mean they are effectively resolved, and further, that it might conceivably be possible for some people to actually and completey resolve deap-seated childhood issues. But such people would be extremely rare, I suspect.

    What Pumpkin Pie said was "If you want to deal with childhood and teenage issues, I recommend you just talk to a regular psychotherapist.", and "Hypnotherapy isn't really good for dealing with childhood issues." I hope you will forgive me, Pumpkin Pie, for not properly quoting you.

    An experience suffered in teenage years would generally be much easier to deal with than something which occured in infancy.

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    I bought a hyposis tape a few years ago. My GF and myself listen to it almost every night when we go to sleep. I love it.

    The Doctor (Travis Fox) on the tape has this awesome voice. As soon as he starts talking on the tape, I am out like a light.

    Just sharing my experience.

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