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    Default We have an ATM machine.

    Has this ever happened to you guys in some clubs?

    A guy wants to buy dances from you and put them on his tab and the club says no, but we have an ATM.

    This week a guy wanted me to spend the last hour with him. he had a tab running and already spent $60 on me. He wanted to put the dances on his tab and the club said no dances can be put on tabs,just drinks.

    The club has already been the slowest I have seen it in the 10 bookings I have had here and then to lose over $200 because of this bullshit is too much.

    Some of these smaller club owners (and this is one of the top small town clubs) ought to understand that bank cards no matter how high a limit one has restrict daily cash withdrawals to $100 or maybe $300 on a bank card. And many guys don't remember the pin #on their M/C's and Visas. He had reached his daily limit on the card.

    I am going to stop f***ing with some of these places if they can't understand that the GC business is an impulse business. If they aren't set up to handle a guy who wants to run a tab of $1000 or so, then they aren't in business.

    In Houston the waitresses run the dance tabs and all dances on tabs are $25 instead of $20 so that we get the full $20 per song and the club uses the $5 to pay their discount fee and cover their taxes on the money. They take the guys ID and call it in to minimize fraud.

    Losing money due to a club being improperly set up or unwilling to run our money through their account is not acceptable!!

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    You are lucky you have an ATM machine in your club! At Treasures in Houston there is NO ATM machine in there! You have to go to the gas station on the corner to get cash out!!! I have never in my life heard of a strip club not having an ATM machine!!! WTF!

    However, you can run a tab as high as you like. The problem is, and I'm growing very frustrated with this, is that to run a tab the waitress holds the customer's credit card and ID until he wants to close it out. Then she has to have the customer sign all this sh*t, then she leaves to have the credit card ran, then she comes back with the slip for him to sign, then she leaves again to have the manager sign off on it, then she finally comes back with the person's credit card and ID.

    Imagine how long this whole process takes, when the servers are busy and they have customers all over the club and every other server is also waiting for the bartender to run credit cards!!! People get so mad that when they are ready to leave they can't leave...it's puts people off from coming back (and in Houston it's all about regulars)...also, I have lost money on several occassions where it came time to add a tip and by that point they were so pissed that they don't add one at all. Also I have lost money because I have ran into customers on the way out the door who want me to dance for them but they already closed out their tab and it took so long they don't want to go through the whole thing again.

    Also, the servers are so busy and backed up from running back and forth and waiting at the bar that they will actually turn down customers that are paying with credit cards!!! Imagine wanting to open a tab and being refused! And then you have to go outside the club (in the rain or heat) to get cash off your card!!!

    When a club's systems for payment are screwed up we all lose money.
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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    our club had the same problem of not being able to sell dances like that *i dont like it* so they put in an atm for the customers so they could withdraw money and get dances

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    Fran,
    No kidding honey! Its the same at all the clubs I know in Texas...what a pain in the ass. Now, they are also requiring the guys to be FINGERPRINTED on the credit card tab..whatever good that does.

    Even though Caligula has an ATM, NO GUY WANTS TO USE IT because ppl get irked by the $5 service fee. Yes, they would rather pay $100 for 4 dances on their CC rather than get 5 with cash, essentially losing out 20 bucks than to pay that offensive Service Fee...so they have to leave the place to go to THEIR fancy bank that charges no fee...then they don't come back....

    True, this aspect of clubs needs MAJOR streamlining! Still, most of my big money has been made off of credit card tabs......

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66191#msg66191 date=1074980856
    No kidding honey! Its the same at all the clubs I know in Texas...what a pain in the ass. Now, they are also requiring the guys to be FINGERPRINTED on the credit card tab..whatever good that does.
    What?! I'd never agree to that.
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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    YUP!! Its a clear ink, so it does not stain the fingers, I think you can see the print under ultraviolet or something...SO, in addition to everything that Francesca clearly described above, now the patrons have to deal with the paranoia that comes with fingerprinting...and I still don't know what the clubs are gonna do....credit card fraud security I guess? All I know, its definately something that will save the club's ass and does nothing for us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66191#msg66191 date=1074980856
    True, this aspect of clubs needs MAJOR streamlining! Still, most of my big money has been made off of credit card tabs......
    Me too...that's why customers getting annoyed with opening tabs and servers turning down customers with CCs is so frustrating!
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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by francesca link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66182#msg66182 date=1074980234
    You are lucky you have an ATM machine in your club! At Treasures in Houston there is NO ATM machine in there! You have to go to the gas station on the corner to get cash out!!! I have never in my life heard of a strip club not having an ATM machine!!! WTF!

    However, you can run a tab as high as you like. The problem is, and I'm growing very frustrated with this, is that to run a tab the waitress holds the customer's credit card and ID until he wants to close it out. Then she has to have the customer sign all this sh*t, then she leaves to have the credit card ran, then she comes back with the slip for him to sign, then she leaves again to have the manager sign off on it, then she finally comes back with the person's credit card and ID.

    Imagine how long this whole process takes, when the servers are busy and they have customers all over the club and every other server is also waiting for the bartender to run credit cards!!! People get so mad that when they are ready to leave they can't leave...it's puts people off from coming back (and in Houston it's all about regulars)...also, I have lost money on several occassions where it came time to add a tip and by that point they were so pissed that they don't add one at all. Also I have lost money because I have ran into customers on the way out the door who want me to dance for them but they already closed out their tab and it took so long they don't want to go through the whole thing again.

    Also, the servers are so busy and backed up from running back and forth and waiting at the bar that they will actually turn down customers that are paying with credit cards!!! Imagine wanting to open a tab and being refused! And then you have to go outside the club (in the rain or heat) to get cash off your card!!!

    When a club's systems for payment are screwed up we all lose money.
    I am a Houston dancer too and you're right its all about the regulars there. I have had credit cards take over 40 minutes on a busy night.
    I have to tie the customers down to keep them from leaving..lol
    I remember being ripped off for a $100, when the waitress forgot to get the customer to sign my dance ticket before he left.
    Having said that I also have made a lot of money off of credit cards too, so I do appreciate them. I just hate all the hastle that comes with using them.
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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    I am learning that I must personally witness the dance ticket being signed...which takes up time when waiting for the server who is slammed with all that running around.

    I've seen people get so mad I thought they were going to leave without paying and leave their credit card and ID behind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by francesca link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66207#msg66207 date=1074982395
    I am learning that I must personally witness the dance ticket being signed...which takes up time when waiting for the server who is slammed with all that running around.

    I've seen people get so mad I thought they were going to leave without paying and leave their credit card and ID behind!
    I know you are so right. I had just started back at St.James and it was a madhouse w/ customers. I saw the waitress she told me she would handle everything. So I thought she would and headed to the back w/ a customer.
    Now I do like you said and just wait it out.
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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    I hate waiting it out....that's time you aren't making any money.

    Luckily we have an ATM machine, but it is always running out of money, so either you have to tell a manager to refill it, have them go across the street, or put it on a credit card tab, which takes forever.

    While I appreciate the devices to help us make money, I wish it was more efficient.

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    Couple thoughts here about what you girls have been saying. When the club runs a credit card dance for say $20.00 the credit card company takes a small percent. Maybe something can be worked out with the club owner where on a $20.00 charged dance he/she gets $2.00 and you get $18.00.
    Also ask an accountant maybe it would run havoc on his accounting system because if a guy has a $200.00 tab that includes an $80.00 bar bill and $120.00 in dances maybe he would have to pay taxes on the $120.00 because he billed it from the governments standpoint. I'm just guessing but no clubs seem to let you charge dances.

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    Also, there is the problem (while rare) of the cocktail server (A) getting drunk and forgetting to have the dance tickets signed and closing out the tab (B) getting drunk and leaving WITH the customer's credit card! (I saw that happen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace_barker link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66224#msg66224 date=1074983371
    Couple thoughts here about what you girls have been saying. When the club runs a credit card dance for say $20.00 the credit card company takes a small percent. Maybe something can be worked out with the club owner where on a $20.00 charged dance he/she gets $2.00 and you get $18.00.
    Also ask an accountant maybe it would run havoc on his accounting system because if a guy has a $200.00 tab that includes an $80.00 bar bill and $120.00 in dances maybe he would have to pay taxes on the $120.00 because he billed it from the governments standpoint. I'm just guessing but no clubs seem to let you charge dances.
    Most clubs charge $25 for dances on a tab, and the dancer still gets $20. The club keeps the extra to cover charges and a little extra just for themselves.
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    All clubs I have worked at allow credit card dance charges....The $25 in Texas clubs is pretty cool for the dancers since we get NO salary, and in my club, no commission from "renting" the champagne room....

    Sometimes customers DO leave their tabs at the bar. They get drunk or mad....So we have to wait until the next day to get our money. BUT, I have ALWAYS received my money in an envelope the next day, sometimes with a tip, and its always for the amount charged on the tab...

    Sometimes, even with a CC tab, the patron argues with me how much to charge when he is signing out, tries to "make a deal." I wish that all the guys could just leave the tabs and go so we can move onto our next patron, free up waitress time, and come back to close on the next day shift.

    Yes, its unrealistic and still leaves room for stiffing. But I think that on the morning after, the bleary eyed middle manager will just sign anything to get his card, id, and get the hell out before the shame of his existence causes him to hurl again.....hehehehehehehehehehehehe!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=1;threadid=6056;start=msg66232#msg66232 date=1074983842
    But I think that on the morning after, the bleary eyed middle manager will just sign anything to get his card, id, and get the hell out before the shame of his existence causes him to hurl again.....hehehehehehehehehehehehe!!
    LOL

    Isn't that funny how people try to bargain when they're finally signing their life away...as if we're going to change our minds about the price we already agreed on???
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    The whole thing would be easy if the club had a ATM that charged a reasonable fee. Like $1.00 or $2.00. That way if I'm in a club and you are working your magic I can go get $100.00 and pay the $2.00 but charging $5.00 or $10.00 or 10% above is a joke. I'll spend the money on drinks (profit to club) and dances (happy employee). There have been many times when I'll be thinking of going to a GC but don't have a ton of cash and don't want to drive around looking for a bank. Would go to the club if I knew the ATM wasn't a blatant ripoff

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    Francesca, Is that your real picture?

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    yes sir it is a real pic.
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    WOW

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    Nobody likes to pay inflated ATM fees. But just like in airports and casinos, in strip clubs you're trapped in there and pay heavily for it.

    The problem at my club with the ATM machine is that there isn't one.
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    thanks ace!
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    LoL,i just private messaged you Francesca about the Pic.Are your Boobs really as big as they look or is that optical illusion.

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    See if you can buy a used ATM and put it in the club. My friend has a liquor store in a college town and they are money makers. A lot of these college kids pay a $2.00 fee for $10.00 cash. Talk to some bar owners in the area that have ATM's. you usually split the fee with the bar/club.

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    Default Re:We have an ATM machine.

    I figure, there must be some reason why there is no ATM in the club or else there would be. Obviously the club would make money off of it and we all know the clubs will do all things possible to squeeze another little bit out of everyone. However, if the same logic behind the credit card tabs is being used for why there isn't an ATM machine then who knows.
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