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    Default What if the lap dance is lousy?

    I had that experience Thursday night in San Francisco. The first woman was ok but she was so adorable it made up for ok.

    The second dancer and I had a lot of eye contact on stage. I found her very attractive but when we got back in the back for a 2 for 1 she was giving the wall more of a lap dance than me.

    Should what I am seeking be discussed in more detail before agreeing? This was a lousy dance in probably anyone's opinion though. So do I complain to her? What do I say?

    I will have to say I was clean, wearing clean, soft clothing and although I am over 50 I am not hard on the eyes. And I am friendly.

    Any comments from the dancers here?

    Percy

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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    I'm not a dancer, but as SF is my home turf, I have to chime in.

    It's not worth it to do anything- just chalk it up as a bad experience and move on. There are PLENTY of charming, fun, talented and deserving women in the SF clubs that would love the attention of a clean, neat, well dressed and generous gentleman. Unless you had bad breath, some sort of body odor, a below price scale tip or were a bit too grabby- there was no reason for a "lap dance" to be a wall dance. It sounds more like a very young, naive and inexperienced dancer.

    I DON'T recommend trying to negotiate specific expectations prior. This really makes a bad first impression and under no circumstances should it be necessary. A lapdance is a lapdance. What you experienced is VERY rare as SF clubs are some of the most liberal in the nation. I can only understand two mediocre to lousy laps in a row in some of the smaller, dive Broadway clubs. Where was this anyhow? You should always stick to the bigger, more professional clubs such as Hustler's, Crazy Horse, Gold Club, Mitchell Brothers and New Century.
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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    Just do one dance with her. No harm done.
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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    Quote Originally Posted by percyw link=board=8;threadid=6469;start=msg71239#msg71239 date=1076232633
    I had that experience Thursday night in San Francisco. The first woman was ok but she was so adorable it made up for ok.

    The second dancer and I had a lot of eye contact on stage. I found her very attractive but when we got back in the back for a 2 for 1 she was giving the wall more of a lap dance than me.

    Should what I am seeking be discussed in more detail before agreeing? This was a lousy dance in probably anyone's opinion though. So do I complain to her? What do I say?

    I will have to say I was clean, wearing clean, soft clothing and although I am over 50 I am not hard on the eyes. And I am friendly.

    Any comments from the dancers here?

    Percy
    I agree with Polecat. Unless you are friends (actual friends) with the dancer, there is no chance of any suggestions you make doing anything but make you look like a jerkoff. You cannot suggest to a dancer she do anything she is not prepared to do.

    Treat it like a lousy yet not horrible trip to a restaurant. You eat, pay your bill, and quietly leave, never to return, and go somewhere else next time.

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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    If the dance is lousy, just don't get another one from her

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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    I've had my fair share of lousy laps. There's no point in making a scene to the dancer about it. She could be trying to rip you off, but she could just as well be an apprehensive newbie, not feeling well or just has a lot on her mind.


    Just pay for the dances she's given you (hopefully no more than one), wish her well and find another lady who'll give you what you want. The nice thing is, whenever I've gotten a lousy dance, another gal will usually make up for it.
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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    If you discuss the "terms" before hand, that might piss her off and she may give you a "bad" dance because she is expecting you to be grabby or perverted. Many customers at my club will say something like "do u give a good dance?" and then by the response that they get they usually know what to expect and it doesnt offend the dancer or embarass themselves. Usually a bad dance is from either inexperienced dancers, or body oder!!!

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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    I can't stand those "Do you give a good dance?" And "So what do I get?" guys. Ugh, right away I go into pervert aversion mode. I increase the distance between us to avoid any chance of his darting bodyparts making contact. If the guy had said nothing at all, and if he keeps his hands to himself he'll actually get way more mileage from me.

    So, I agree that it's not worth it to discuss what you're going to 'get' beforehand. This just makes you look like a pervie, and puts her on red-alert. If you don't like your dance simply don't buy any more from that girl. Try different girls until you find the right match.

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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    Yeah, if it's lousy just say your thank-yous and goodnights. Never berate anyone even if you mean well.


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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    I wouldn't take it personally. Like most of the other responses to your post have said, you may have been getting dances from a couple of newbies.
    Doing lap dances is really scary for a newbie. Just try to be as nice as possible so that she will begin to feel more comfortable in her new line of work. Also realize that some clubs are very strict in comparison to others. You may have been in a no contact club that doesn't allow "real lap dances". In those types of clubs the dancers do the best they can for the customers but they can not allow themselves to get fired by breaking the rules in a super strict club.
    I actually got fired from a club in LA for grinding. What's a lap dance without a little grinding?
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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    Well percyw-
    Digging a bit under the front- reading a few of your posts on the blue site, as well as your review on New Century here... I have to say that something is truly amiss.

    Obviously, every club has it's share of ROB's.. but from what you've described it seems you're someone that has identified themself as ROB'able material in one way or another.

    SF clubs have vastly differing unspoken policies about them. Some are simply tourist money traps- where they have a stage show with short rotation and the only sales pitch is to get the patron to "buy them a drink", which turns out to be a 12oz bottle of apple cider with a generic "Champagne" label on it for $120- in exchange for sitting with them for the 5-6 minutes it takes them to polish off their apple juice and ask for another, and then say they are due up on stage if you decline (at which point they walk up to the next victim right in front of you as you watch them order another bottle of apple juice). Others are full-on brothels, with a $40 private lapdance option really being "the code" for a $150+ extras private booth visit if otherwise isn't declared right off the bat.

    Forget your past experiences and I have a few pointers for you for your first few visits to a new club:
    1) Don't go during day shifts. Yeah, some night-shift women will occasionally work day-shifts, but management schedules night-shift women for a reason... they are the ones that generate the most $$ during peak attendance hours. This usually translates to stellar performers, higher physical popularity value or stellar ROBs lol.
    2) DO NOT buy dances or seek attention from the initial hustlers or women fishing with strong eye-contact from across the room. As you're a newbie in whatever club you are in, your first few visits should be trying to figure out the plan, the program, how things work.
    3) DO approach the dancers you've noticed after several minutes of lounging that are not high-pressure hitting up every guy seated or walking-in. The dancer pretty much keeping to herself is generally the best bet for a newbie to lean on for some information and club "training"

    You've probably noticed lots of hustles begin to you with, "So, have you been here before?" and upon answering an offer to "take the free tour" will follow. This is usually patented ROB behavior in SF. If you would have answered, "Why yes, lots of times!" 90% of the time the reply would then be, "Uhm. Great, have a nice time!" as they scuttle off quickly in search of easier prey.

    What you need to find is the veteran, non-ROB's who can truly show you the ropes and make you feel comfortable, but these are usually NOT the ones doing the high-pressure hustle, but instead mostly hanging around waiting for regulars. They don't have to hit up every single guy because their regular traffic pays their stage fees and profits. You can pretty much throw yourself in their mercy and they wont take advantage of that fact. They will share how things work, who to avoid and usually give you the best, warmest, honest attention in the whole club. Reward these few generously as they are the most deserving.

    Lastly, if you need some specific names per club, or would like some URL's for local SF stripclub forums (some which actually maintain ROB lists for the various SF clubs) where the dancers themselves participate, drop me an Inbox.
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    Default Re:What if the lap dance is lousy?

    Yeah maybe she was just a lousy LDer. Some people point this out about a lot of girls. I have given my share of lousy ones to people that have been really yucky, but if you are cool and nice, it was probably her. Some girls are new, and some girls just dont ever give good ones. it probably wasnt you.
    Just go for another girl

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