View Poll Results: on legalized marijunia w/ DUI laws staying intact.

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  • 100% legal

    16 53.33%
  • limited to grow your own

    2 6.67%
  • buy and sell up to 1/4

    2 6.67%
  • buy and sell over 1/4 and up to OZ.

    0 0%
  • buy and sell over OZ.

    0 0%
  • any of the above and tax like crazy

    5 16.67%
  • keep it illegal

    5 16.67%
  • 0 0%
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    Default How would you vote ?

    If there was a national vote on the making ganga legal how would you vote ? Feel free to explain your point of view.


    Personally I'd make it legal to buy, sell and grow it and tax the crap out of it .

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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    100% Legal. It's far less harmful than Booze is.

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    I would vote to legalize it. I think the DUI laws should be enforced the same to control safety with use. (Although I know it would never completely control it, as it does not with alcohol.) I agree with you, Jim, and I think the government would readily legalize it if they could come up with a profitable way to tax it.

    I read somewhere, a few months ago, that marijuana was responsible for less deaths than overdoses on Tylenol. I can't remember where I read it, but will try to find it to post. It gave death rate comparisons on a lot of common medications, both prescription and over-the-counter. It may not have been a completely accurate study, but interesting anyway.
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    I vote for marijuana to be 100% legal (duh, in California it's been a ballot issue a number of times- and is currently legal to grow/sell for medicinal purposes in several counties already).

    I do disagree on trying to use comparisons with alcohol in order to sell such a concept though. It's wrongful thinking and misapplication of agenda. Long term effects of chronic marijuana use are SEVERAL times more harmful than alcoholism, just from a different perspective. A 5-7 year alcoholic can hope to reverse all damages (aside from physical problems such as liver/organ damages) whereas long term marijuana users have measurable and permanent metabolic and behavioral effects that haven't shown to be reversible.

    So if you focus on the long-term effects of substance abuse to only be narrowed to cellular and organ atrophy/damages, alcohol is very dangerous and marijuana is substantially less dangerous. Once you go into long-term use and encompass other effects, you go into a grey area with little study, but with the little study that has been performed leading to show trends of much more dangerous and permanent side effects.
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    The constitution was written on hemp, a by-product of the goofy grass and if its good enough to write on I say legalize and tax it to high(pun intended) heaven!Plus if its legal and a bunch more women run around stoned they might think im hot,lmao

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    I haven't found the article I mentioned in my previous post, but I did want to provide an interesting link...Some of you may have checked it out already....Worth a peek if you haven't, in my opinion.

    www.norml.org

    There's some very interesting information on there...(And it may be where that article is. Just haven't found it yet...)
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    I am all in favor of legalizing Marijuana.
    I have a prescription for it..under the guidelines of medicinal Marijuana, for my cancer.
    I stop using it though.. I live in the S.F Bay Area and the Feds have really been harrassing the medicinal M.J local industry
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    100% legal. I guess I just believe live and let live. There are already so many laws when it comes to driving, whether it's alcohol, prescription drugs etc.. laws are already in effect for driving while impaired. I just think it's stupid to continue to fight a "drug war" that we have lost, and throwing people in jail for smoking pot seems like a waste of time, money and jail space.

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    100% legal. I've seen people that were drunk do horrible things but people who had smoked pot were just chill and relaxed. I think that says it all.
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    Yeah, people get drunk and go shoot someone all the time.

    People get high and just forget to go shoot someone.

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    I voted 100% legal. I've got a green thumb and a nice little greenhouse on our property and I'd be growing my own for sure if it were legal

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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    I did a research paper on this last year. I think marijuana should be legalized but with certain limitations. Also, driving stoned should be kept illegal.

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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    It is easier to make a case for making alcohol illegal than to make one for pot being legal. Part of the reason for alcohol being legal is that it is far easier to measure impairment without a blood test, but this is more of a modern technology and would not have been available in the 1920s or 30s when prohibiton was attempted. If it were readily measureable, I would have gone with some form of legalization but as it is there are enough impaired people on the road and we do not need anymore.

    How many extra traffic fatalities would you guess would result from legalization? 6,000 on top of the estimated 20,000 due to alcohol? That, to keep in perspective, would be 2 - 9/11's. 9,000? Another 20K people?

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    I voted legal..... i have s few reasons for this but am so tired ( its 1.30am here ) and my brain wont work lol

    Anyway yes i agree that alcohol is worse, i hardly drink the stuff now..... but monty does make a valid point.

    Anyway i still say legalize it but like bambi said with limitations.

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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek link=board=1;threadid=6526;start=msg72247#msg72247 date=1076462815
    How many extra traffic fatalities would you guess would result from legalization? 6,000 on top of the estimated 20,000 due to alcohol? That, to keep in perspective, would be 2 - 9/11's. 9,000? Another 20K people?

    Well I did include that DUI laws should stay in effect re: pot or any other mood altering substance. Road side tests already commonly used such as: walking the line, following a light, saying the alphabet etc could be used to determine over the limit drivers.

    I personaly don't think DUI deaths will rise if it becomes legal, actually I think it might just lower the DIU fatalities as I have heard many people say the prefer pot to alcohol and I just don't believe pot hinders people nearly as much as alcohol.

    Wow Monty I didn't realize you were so conservative :o First I read your gay marriage comments on that thread and now this... you are ofcourse entitled to your opinions and to express them but I guess I am just surprised to find a person with your apparent conservative views on a site dedicated to strippers ??? I usualy find that people who oppose such things as legal pot and gay marriage also often oppose stripclubs too. I'm a little curious now as to your position on a womans right to an abortion but I'll not take that subject up here in respect for any of the ladies who may have made that choice.
    I'm going to have to do some back reading on your past posts, maybe I am off base ?

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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    if it were legal we could buy it from the store like regular ciggaretts. that would be a lot safer. no laced weed! yeah! (good reason not to do it now)

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    I am sorry but I did not know there was a litmnus test to join stripper web. LOL
    Politically I am more liberarian than stereotypical conservative, and from that perspective I would oppose taxation of a commodity as being none of the government's business. My comments re pot are more a matter of do we need another legal mind altering substance at the cost of an uncertain number of drivers lives. Especially if it is accompanied by "suspicious" behavior triggering blood tests and DNA databases as opposed to a breathalyzer. The DUI law still results in a massive number of drinking related deaths so the same law applied to more substances is hardly likely to result in fewer DUI deaths, but I leave it to speculation how many.

    I can not personally make comments about the impact on performance of drivers who smoke pot since I am personally one of 5 people in the country who has never indulged in that commodity, and one of them just never inhaled it.

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    Keep it illegal, too many people behave differently on the stuff. Use it for the terminally ill while in a controled environment. The stuff diminishes peoples senses. I don't see much of a difference between alcohol and weed when one uses too much.

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    100% Legal!! People are much nicer when high, where as they are more likely to be violent when drunk.
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    Default Re:How would you vote ?

    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek link=board=1;threadid=6526;start=msg72326#msg72326 date=1076473353
    I am sorry but I did not know there was a litmnus test to join stripper web. LOL
    I'd hope there wasn't or I might not be here either and its a great little online community.

    Sorry if I was off base ,I was just surprised and since I read the two threads back to back and it sorta compounded things.

    At any rate thanks for your well thought out comments on both subjects I have been focusing my attentions to today

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    I voted keep it illegal. I agree with Monty 100%. Also, I have seen friends, as well as my younger brother turn from healthy happy people into obease, lazy people who just don't seem to care about themselves, or can't think of where to begin. There are a few, like my last boyfriend and when he didn't smoke he was an obnoxious hyper active immiture idiot. Right after he did smoke he was a sexist lazy asshole. I prefer the first to the second, but I liked him best a few hours after he'd smoke, and he'd still be lazy, but way more mellow. As for me, I don't smoke, but I used to regularly, and I feel so much better now, it's llike I'm a whole new person. And by the way, when I was stoned I'd turn into a lazy bossy bitch, and take pleasure in rubbing people the wrong way. Thats not a person I care to be, because really I hated my self, and liked the distraction. Keep it illegal.
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    Being a hard-core libertarian, I'm naturally for re-legalizing it. It was once legal.

    And if you read up on why illegal drugs became illegal, it had NOTHING to do with health issues and everything to do with racism. It all started with whites wanting to strike down the Chinese in California.

    And as long as it is illegal, it will be attractive forbidden fruit.

    And it is also a consentual crime. A good book on consentual crimes is "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do: The Absurdity of Consentual Crimes in a Free Society" by Peter McWilliams (Prelude Press, 1993).

    As for myself, I've never used marijuana or any other illegal drug. Heck, I don't even drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. Having been raised by a functional alcoholic and having older brothers who are recovering alcoholics, doing any type of mind-altering drug has never had a big appeal for me. Lifting up your passed-out older brother's face so he doesn't drown in his own vomit was a real turn-off. However, I have no problem with others socially drinking or doing drugs around me ... just as long as they don't try to pressure me to take them or try to excuse their bad behavior on it.
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    About 2 years ago here in Nevada, it was actually on the ballot to semi-legalize marijuana. I forget the exact components of the proposition, it was something along the lines of you wouldn't get in trouble if you were caught with 1/8 or less. I did vote in favor of "legalizing" it, b/c that was when I could outsmoke a chimney! lol. However, it failed anyway. Now it's a misdeameanor instead of a felony to be caught with a gram or even a pipe. Or maybe it's the other way around.

    Ahh, weed.... I miss the days when I could outsmoke a chimney, lol!

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