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    I've actually run into this issue with a few dancers who have come through our classes. The underlying issue with guys telling dancers, "you are just too beautiful for me" is actually nothing with the dancer. Trust me ladies, take this as a complement in disguise because it really is. The issue here is with the customer.

    In many "blue collar" clubs, you have to take a closer look at who the customer is and what their background is. Most of the guys are generally in positions of doing labor-tasks all day. Construction, warehouse, etc. These are usually guys who are not watching MTV, VH1, or the E! Network. They may occasionally watch a rerun of Baywatch, but are not usually watching programs where beautiful women (models, rock stars, acressess) are shown very much. As a result, they are more used to seeing "beauty" as a woman with a few extra pounds, hair that looks nice, but not modelesque, etc. What some guys would consider a 7, these guys would consider a 9 or a 10. So when a true "10" walks along (I hate to use these types of number values, but it's just for the sake of making a point) they feel overwhelmed. They feel outclassed and are dealing with a lot of self-confidence issues. Generally speaking, very beautiful women are not who they ask out very often because they feel way too intimidated. So when one approaches them, they feel outclassed.

    Now, there are different ways as a dancer that you can deal with this. The first is to just suck-it-up and move on, OR you can use it to your advantage (which is what I'd suggest). If you really do hear that comment often, my suggestion is don't make yourself up to be a "10". I know a lot of models who I would consider to be extraordinarily beautiful, but not until they have the right outfit on, thei hair done incredibly well, makeup perfect, etc. Many supermodels look just like another pretty face when they are standing in line at the bank in their sweats.

    My advice would be to tone it down just a bit if you are hearing that comment often in a club as described. There is a reason that you'll never see a car dealership that is a Hundai, Kia, and Rolls Royce outfit. You don't always want to be the Rolls Royce in every circumstance in this business. Perhaps looking like a Lexus or Cadillac is actually better. Toning it down just a bit will make you relate more to the clientelle you are dealing with.

    A good friend of mine owns a video production company here in Las Vegas with his wife. His wife is a "10" by most guys' standards. She was actually a Dallas Cowboy's cheerleader for a few years about 7 years ago. She does a lot of modeling work now, but when she's not, she's running the business with her husband. She's extremely smart in the ways of video production and camera operation. She can rig lights, setup equipment, hold microphone booms, etc. When they first started doing this as a business though, nobody took her seriously looking the way she does...nice hair, nice makeup, etc. In this line of work, she's dealing with union workers who think a woman's job is barefoot and pregnant in the trailor park. She told me she used to go home crying from a video shoot sometime because of the ways the guys on the crew wouldn't respect her. SO, she got smart. Now, when they are doing a shoot, she wears dirty Levis, baggy shirt, hair simple, virtually no makeup, and a ballcap turned backwards. She fits right in now. Is she any less pretty? I'd say no, but she changed to suit her environment more and that was the trick.

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    Default Re:Too Beautiful to make money???

    I'd say that a beautiful dancer may be deemed a threat to the rest of the girls at a club so then the cattiness may build up to her detriment. Many guys also believe that a "stunner" is really a snob and the regular looking girls are friendly and non-threatening so they prefer to spend their money on them. So it is best for a beautiful dancer to work at a club where the rest of the girls are stunners too.



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    I've had guys try to talk me into quitting. There have been several blue collar clubs where I quit after 1 or 2 days because I couldn't make money. At one of these clubs a customer took it upon himself to explain to me why I wasn't making: I was to hot, to classy, looked least likely to give extras. He bought into all the stiripper sterotypes, but saw me as a normal girl who shouldn't be there, he didn't want to degrade me by buying a dance.

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    Yup, Tonya, it's like you were overqualified to work at that club, go figure



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina link=board=27;threadid=6559;start=msg72647#msg7264 7 date=1076537860
    Has anyone out there ever had a problem with customers telling them they are "too beautiful" for a table dance ?
    I work at a crappy little blue collar club and have this problem pretty regularly. Of course the obvious answer (esp. from my boyfriend) is to move to a better club, which I plan to do in a few weeks. However I'd like to understand the dyamics of what's going on so that I can either fix it or use it to my advantage.

    Monday night for example I know I was breathtaking. My makeup was done to perfection, I had on a really hot brand new pink corset & dress outfit, the girls and the bouncers/bartenders etc were all over me. but the customers turned me down left and right. The few white collar guys who came in that night spent money on me, but I had to hustle them extra hard. Like 5 guys at various stages through the night would come over in my general area and hover around me but avoid direct eye contact until I had to insist that they sit with me.

    There is another gorgeous girl at the club with a fantastic 10+ figure and a great dancer. The whole rooms energy feeds off of her when she works and the men's eyes follow her around the room. It's obvious that the customers enjoy their time with her, plus she is a bit of a dirty dancer (I'd think that would be a + for the customers). But time after time I see men give her 2-4 dances and let her go away, yet continue to stare after her for an hour.

    The whole concept of a being intimidated by a good looking girl in a strip club is bogus to me. I mean you just hand me some money and we can begin your fantasy. When I go out to a strip club or out to dinner or shopping, I damn sure want the best I can get. Perhaps men don't think the same way?

    Do you girls do better when you look a little less than perfect? Or have some of your better nights been when you look stunning?


    Well I do have this problem alot.. and yep ive had someone tell me this. plenty of times.. Honestly i have no idea how to react.. mostly ill have a "huh?" look on my face.. and is usually followed by a "uhhmmm" look didnt know there was such a thing..


    its about 50-50 for me though.. sometimes they wont because im pretty.. and sometimes they will cause they know it will never happen anywhere else...


    I guess its because they have such low self esteem themselfs :





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    I'm sure it works both ways though...there are guys that will shun you because of your looks and those that will flock to you because of them.

    I found that when guys want to buy their friends a dance, they will usually pick the hottest girl in sight.

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    I've also noticed that when I am busy with men they tend to keep me with them for a long time, and other customers will give me eye contact or try to call me over to their table. I tell them or signal to them that I'll be by in a few minutes and when I finally come over they are like --you thought you were to good for me before.It's like hello baby I was BUSY!!!

    YOu know looking back on that night I didn't to horribly. I made a sum well within my comfort range, but not what I thought I should have made considering the amount of attention and compliments I received from the staff, and how much I felt the men were visually attracted to me. After I cooled down a little I realized that I'm making so much money that sometimes when I make a few hundred dollars less than I think I should be making I get upset, but I'm fortunate to be able to make the kind of money that I do when the majority of the world is hungry and struggling. Don't get me wrong I work my cute little booty off for it and I know I'm worth it, but I always want make things work to my best advantage 'cause you never know how things may change and I won't have as much as I do now.
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    Default Re:Too Beautiful to make money???

    I think that is much better than "you are too ugly to be stripping..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeCool27 link=board=27;threadid=6559;start=msg74628#msg7462 8 date=1077013485
    I think that is much better than "you are too ugly to be stripping..."

    Yea that maybe true..... but if it effects your money making potential in a club than its a problem isnt it

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    Default Re:Too Beautiful to make money???

    It's cynical, but I've noticed that guys who go on and on about your looks - "you're too beautiful to be doing this" and that stuff are usually not big spenders. I often find that they are trying to make up for their lack of money with an abundance of compliments. It's a nice gesture, but it doesn't pay the bills.

    Anyway, if you go with a down-to-earth personality, you actually can clean up in a place where the girls are 6's, etc. I think the secret is to wear the sluttiest outfits possible to let them know that you're not snobby. And the messy "I just had sex hair" can work wonders with the blue collar crowd.
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    I don't know how many times I have said this in previous posts....but men really are intimidated by gorgeous women. I used ti have the same problem and to solve it I smile my ass off and go out of my way to make sure the guys think I am super nice....otherwise without meaning to ...in the guys eyes we are either stuck up .... a bitch...or stuck on ourselves. Seriously!!!!! Remember looks don't sell half as many dances as a good personality does!!!

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    i had the girl next door look and the men wanted to talk but wouldn't buy dances because they said that i was the type of girl they would date or better yet " i don't want to look at you that way" they'd tip and i'd be on my way. so i started to have to wear more make-up. now i'm doing much better. i don't get you look so innocent much any more.
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    I have something to add to this and it's kind of a spin off what DancerWealth was saying. A couple weeks ago, at my blue collar club, this guy was staring at me all ga-ga and he says, "You only date white collar guys huh? You'd never date a blue collar guy"

    I wasn't even saying anything, just standing there and smoking. Based on my looks (and demeanor I guess?) he came up with this all on his own.


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    yeah i have the hight problem, being 5'10 without heels....makes it a lil daunting for customers. im sure i could make more moneyif i was just a FEW inches shorter....from a guys point of view, but i know heaps of girls would kill to have my hight. i spose the grass is always greener on the other side.

    besides, all guys are differnt, some like to be intimidated lol

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    HOLD ON!!!!!!! I DONT MEAN TO BE A BITCH BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS...SO POST A PIC. AND WE CAN ALL VOTE ON IF YOU ARE "TOO BEAUTIFUL" OR NOT

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    Um, VegasVixen, I don't think that's the point nor what she wants. She's not asking for our opinions, more like how we handle such situations if we're faced with it. Regardless of whether we thought she was hot or not, that won't help her make more money.
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    Whatever. I am a hot bitch and I make money. - guys dig it, and I am nice in the initial approach. Who cares if you are all done up, or not?

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    Well, sometimes it's a bullshit excuse, and sometimes you really are intimidating to them. That's that.

    I had the same problem some of you have mentioned.... I went to this blue-collar club and went bust! I couldn't get a dance to save my life! Went across the street and cleaned up. In the nicer clubs in town, I cleaned up, but couldn't make jack in the blue-collar one... Go figure....

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    i never heard of that before....seems like guys want a beautiful girl to dance for them..............i know a lot of guys just don't like the baby pink color it's a turn off to them........but i have many(and love) baby pink.
    A couple of guys once told me they did not like baby pink.............HMPH!! go figure!! ........MEN!

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