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    Father who married daughter ordered back to prison

    The Associated Press
    February 27, 2004


    A 53-year-old man was sent back to prison after a judge decided the man had violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with his 30-year-old daughter, who is also his former wife.

    Mobile County Circuit Judge John Lockett ordered Carroll Eugene Ferdinandsen to prison on Thursday after determining he violated a probation order barring him from cohabitation with Alice Ferdinandsen.

    Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer in connection with their May 2003 civil marriage in Mobile County and served six months in jail before being released in January.

    Prosecutors presented police witnesses who testified they found the father and daughter together in motel rooms on two occasions, just days after the couple's release from jail.

    Each had pleaded guilty to incest last summer and served six months in jail before being released in January.

    Lockett ordered Carroll Ferdinandsen to serve the remainder of a 10-year sentence.

    The judge said the state had not proved its case against Alice Ferdinandsen and ruled she had not violated her probation.

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    Information from: The Mobile Register

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    Holy shizzle, Melonie.. lol

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    Now all this "couple" needs is an activist lawyer to fight for the father's release from jail based on the Gay Texas Couple Supreme Court decision, by equating state laws against incestuous behavior with state laws against homosexual behavior i.e. what a father and daughter do in the privacy of their own motel room is nobody else's business. The floodgates are open, folks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannon link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg78953#msg78953 date=1078011453
    Holy shizzle, Melonie.. lol
    Yup. That was exactly what I was thinking.
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    See, they were both atleast 29 years old....so why can't they fuck each other/be married? Incest honestly increases the chances of birth defects only slightly. The reason why its been tabboo is due to the belief that the offspring of relations is always born with birth defects. Do i want to slam my mother or sister? NO. But who am i to tell two other adults that they can't?

    besides, if nailing your daughter was strictly enforced, they'd have to close down Maine. LOL, my unwarranted attack on mainiacs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg79002#msg79002 date=1078018143
    See, they were both atleast 29 years old....so why can't they fuck each other/be married? Incest honestly increases the chances of birth defects only slightly. The reason why its been tabboo is due to the belief that the offspring of relations is always born with birth defects. Do i want to slam my mother or sister? NO. But who am i to tell two other adults that they can't?

    besides, if nailing your daughter was strictly enforced, they'd have to close down Maine. LOL, my unwarranted attack on mainiacs.
    LOL Sandy...

    Well, personally, I think incest is sick, and I just don't want it around me.. Does it go on? Yes, and it probably always will. My uncle for instance, married his first cousin. It was legal and deemed pretty much "ok" because they were both over the age of 60, and she was well past menopause.

    I have a problem with this particular story, because what if they were to have a child? Do they realize what the child could turn out like? I cringe at the thought of it.

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    personally i think it is gross, but i also dont think feet are sexy, or pee, etc. president Roseevelt married his cousin, not first cousin but she didnt have to worry about changing her name...

    http://www.cousincouples.com/info/facts.shtml

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    Despite the fact that my father's great aunt married her first cousin in Maryland (no kids) I believe that the ultimate case against interfamial reproduction is the British royal family.

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    Maine and Maryland too? I thought this stuff only happened in West Virginia.
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    lol FONDL....
    anyone seen "Wrong Turn"?
    Thats pretty scary

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    Sandy, stop the gratutious Maine attacks or you risk the wrath of the "Man-Moose Love Association".

    Apologies to Holiday and all other Mainards.

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    This is definately crossing the line. I don't think it really matters how old you are...incest is wrong!!!!! It will set bad examples, probably increase child abuse, and not to mention if the people who engage in incest have children, the devastating impact that it will have on their off-spring. (physically, and emotionally).

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    This is definately crossing the line. I don't think it really matters how old you are...incest is wrong!!!!! It will set bad examples, probably increase child abuse, and not to mention if the people who engage in incest have children, the devastating impact that it will have on their off-spring. (physically, and emotionally).
    Not according to the US Supreme Court precedent set in the Texas Sodomy case it's not (across the line). Since that decision, it is no longer left up to the majority of voters, or elected officials, or religious leaders, to judge the "right and wrong" when two consenting adults choose to engage in "private sexual contact". In this case the father and the daughter were both over 18 thus "consenting adults", and they were in the privacy of a hotel room while engaging in "private sexual contact". Both were charged with the crime of incest, and the father is going to spend years in jail because of that charge. Yet the two Texas gays charged with sodomy were also "consenting adults" and were also engaging in "private sexual contact" and the US Supreme Court recently ruled that the state of Texas had no valid reason to judge the inappropriateness of their choice of "private sexual contact" by charging them with the crime of sodomy and must therefore set them free.

    It's not fair in a legal sense to say that two males engaging in sodomy is any less right or wrong, sets a better or worse example, or is more or less negative to any children involved, than a father and daughter engaging in incest. Or for that matter, a customer and escort/dancer/prostitute engaging in sex for money. In all three cases, a large segment of the population, religious leaders and governments consider such behavior to be "wrong", to be "setting a bad example" etc. and has passed laws prohibiting such behavior. So why should it now be fair for the Supreme Court to abolish the crime of sodomy without also abolishing the crime of incest, or for that matter abolishing the crime of prostitution.

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    Yep, I have to agree with Melonie. I personally don't care to have sex with a member of my family, immediate or otherwise but really, how can I take my personal beliefs and force others to do/believe as I do? I wouldn't want someone doing it to me. Yes, there is a increase in birth defect for children who's parents are closely related and that could be a reason to keep it illegal as you are then affecting an innocent child and therefore involving another person in your person business. But really, the same could be said for gays adopting children (which I am all for.) In the end, it's not up to me to decide what is right and wrong for another person. I think incest, prostitution, hell even polygamy should be legal. I am not in favor of bestiality because an animal can not give it's consent and that turns into a animal rights issue. As long as it's between CONSENTING ADULTS, who am I or anyone else to say what people can or can not do in the private?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg79514#msg79514 date=1078165477
    ....but really, how can I take my personal beliefs and force others to do/believe as I do? I wouldn't want someone doing it to me. .... it's not up to me to decide what is right and wrong for another person. I think incest, prostitution, hell even polygamy should be legal. I am not in favor of bestiality because an animal can not give it's consent and that turns into a animal rights issue.....
    I agree with melonie too.

    What about when a dog humps your leg? technicly isnt that human abuse? last time that happend to me I wasnt consenting, but the dog certainly was.

    last night I saw an intresting family guy. brian (the talking dog) was horny and jumped a racedog (seabreze) he had a crush on at the track, durning a race. Afterward they found out she was pregnant. The issue the whole show then was his right to see his puppys. Frankly I was wondering what about seabreze's consent? wasn't jumping her while she was at work technicly rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ami link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg79928#msg79928 date=1078256371

    I agree with melonie too.

    What about when a dog humps your leg? technicly isnt that human abuse? last time that happend to me I wasnt consenting, but the dog certainly was.

    last night I saw an intresting family guy. brian (the talking dog) was horny and jumped a racedog (seabreze) he had a crush on at the track, durning a race. Afterward they found out she was pregnant. The issue the whole show then was his right to see his puppys. Frankly I was wondering what about seabreze's consent? wasn't jumping her while she was at work technicly rape?
    Yes, Luckily they turn out to be Ted Turner's and brian get's to keep his sack. Thing is, they didn't show the actual act, they just showed brian jumping up from his seat, chasing after her, and jumping her(you could certianly argue assault). However, we dont see after. perhaps she does give consent....she did run off with him, chances are she wouldn't run off with the guy who her rapist... lol, think i took this too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg79934#msg79934 date=1078257570
    ...... However, we dont see after. perhaps she does give consent....she did run off with him, chances are she wouldn't run off with the guy who her rapist....
    I don't know, some women are stupid. Why do some stay with guys who beat them? "oh he loves me, he dosn't mean to" "but we have children I can let them not have a father"

    who knows.. its a cartoon with a talking dog.

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    Well, according to George Bush, a legal, lawful, moral marriage is between a man and a woman...is he changing his speech again to rule this out, too?

    P.S. Not that I am all that thrilled about a man marrying his daughter (or woman marrying her son) but, ummmm...what gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ami link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg79946#msg79946 date=1078259306
    I don't know, some women are stupid. Why do some stay with guys who beat them? "oh he loves me, he dosn't mean to" "but we have children I can let them not have a father"
    That's a whole 'nother bag of worms!

    Here's my thing; I won't be participating in any incest, but I don't think the government should be regulating sex (out of public view) between consenting adults.

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    Here's my thing; I won't be participating in any incest, but I don't think the government should be regulating sex (out of public view) between consenting adults.
    So you therefore support the right of a dancer to offer HJ's, BJ's and FS in VIP rooms ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg80038#msg80038 date=1078275000
    Here's my thing; I won't be participating in any incest, but I don't think the government should be regulating sex (out of public view) between consenting adults.
    So you therefore support the right of a dancer to offer HJ's, BJ's and FS in VIP rooms ?
    Good Point Melonie! I'm a little stumped as far as an answer goes though. I guess if prostitution was legal, then that stuff would be legal too. But it would hurt the girls who don't do the extras. Maybe the club owners could regulate that type of thing ????
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    All i can say is WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=1;threadid=6975;start=msg80038#msg80038 date=1078275000
    Here's my thing; I won't be participating in any incest, but I don't think the government should be regulating sex (out of public view) between consenting adults.
    So you therefore support the right of a dancer to offer HJ's, BJ's and FS in VIP rooms ?
    I have yet to make a decision on any other person's right to do anything. I prefer not to make judgement on the issue of rights. My personal beliefs about extras are not the same as me supporting someone's rights... This is not even about extras!!!

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    I stick to my beliefs on this issue. Yes, it's disgusting, and there is no way I would ever have sexual feelings for my bro or my father. But if two consenting adults want to have sex, that's their business. They're not hurting anyone.

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    BUT ITS different because dancers are most likely doing it while working, getting paid for it. What a dancer does outside the club for personal pleasures is different.
    This situation is ridiculous and gross to me, but i also don't believe that a goverment should regulate it.
    What they are doing is not a business transaction.

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