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    Article I found.

    Atkins Was Grossly Overweight and Sick
    But the Media Loves the Dead Guy
    On Tuesday, February 10, 2004 the fall of the Atkins Empire began with the publication of a medical report on Atkins’ body by the Office of Chief Medical Examiner, the City of New York. This report was obtained legally and without deception by Richard Flemming, MD, a cardiologist from Omaha, Nebraska. The report was then sent to Neal Barnard, MD, of the Physicians’ Committee for Responsible Medicine. This organization gave the report to the Wall Street Journal and they made these findings public with an added note from the Journal that with a weight of 258 pounds and a height of 6 feet he would be properly classified as “obese.” That week I appeared on several national TV and radio shows, and was quoted in newspapers worldwide, including the New York Times – taking the position that his medical report was fair game because he was an icon in the diet industry, and the lessons learned from his poor health would save lives.

    Atkins Medical Report

    Since I am a friend of Dr. Barnard and a diametrically opposed opponent of the Atkins philosophy, it was natural for me to take the position that these findings are important and should be public. They are important because the health and appearance of this diet guru reflect the merit of his advice. The man was grossly overweight for all of the 10 years that I knew him and I had met with him personally on several occasions. He looked very unhealthy to me every time we met – and his medical reports and the history that has been released by his organization confirm this. At the very least he suffered from severe heart damage known as cardiomyopathy. The Atkins organization says this was due to a virus – this is possible, but is an extremely rare cause for this condition. The most common reason for this severe loss of heart muscle is coronary artery disease due to a high-fat, high-cholesterol diet. In April of 2002 he suffered a cardiac arrest and almost died. Information from the Atkins web site tells us that he had coronary artery disease and suggests he recently had an angioplasty. His history also includes congestive heart failure and hypertension. The medical examiner’s report says he had a heart attack also – but I have no other history to confirm this. He is reported to have died from head injuries from a fall on the ice.

    The Atkins organization denies he was grossly overweight and claims he weighed between 180 and 195 pounds. They say his medical records indicate he weighed 195 pounds just before he entered the hospital at the time of his death. They claim the additional weight, totaling 258 pounds reported by the medical examiner, was from fluid accumulation during his 9 days of hospitalization prior to his death. That would mean 60 to 80 pounds of fluid, equal to 8 to 10 gallons of water, would have been added to his body. Any medical doctor who allowed this much fluid accumulation in a patient in 9 days should have his medical practices reviewed.

    Michael Fumento of Scripps Howard News Service obtained the records that reported on Atkins’ weight of 195 pounds. He wrote, “The ‘records’ were merely part of a page from an echocardiogram report, not admittance documents as one might expect. Conspicuously, the blood pressure numbers were covered.”… “The echocardiogram report did show Atkins' weight at 195, but the head of the echocardiography laboratory told me they don't even have a scale. ‘Sometimes we get the weight from ER, and sometimes we don't and don't put anything down,’ he said. ‘Do you ever just estimate?’ I asked. ‘Yup,’ he replied.”

    See complete Fumento Article

    At the present time the media coverage of this story is largely in defense of Atkins. Some of the press has labeled the release of the report of his poor health as a “Vegan Agenda,” and Mrs. Atkins, on Dateline (TV show), Friday, February 20, 2004, said those speaking against her husband are the “vegetarian Taliban” and “they’re nasty.”

    No harm is intended for the Atkins family, but all this controversy is an opportunity to save countless lives of people who fail to understand the truth about human nutrition, and especially those who have been mislead by Dr. Atkins and his organization. If people keep talking about the science behind low and high carbohydrate diets, then the evidence will eventually come out. My hope is that the fight escalates. For those of you who think maligning a dead man is in bad taste – think again – Atkins’ image is alive and well on TV, radio, newspapers, fast food restaurant menus, and supermarket shelves – making $100 million a year for Atkins Nutritionals Inc., selling people worldwide a program that results in short term weight loss (at best), is nearly impossible to follow, and eventually causes extremely poor health – the diet’s founder, Dr. Atkins, is one important piece of the proof. When the Atkins business stops promoting him, I will stop criticizing him.


    by John McDougall MD

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    I've never tried the Atkins diet, and I don't know too much about it, but My grandmother has a heart condition which causes her to retain fluid, and when she was in the hospital only a month ago just for 3 days she gained 35lbs of fluid mostly in her legs form being immobile. This could be some kind of agenda but maybe it's not. I'd have to learn more about the diet to actually have an opinion, but I just wanted to share that it still possible that it was because of fluid.
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    Oh my god Ryan, you are behind on the times. Atkins died because he fell on ice and stayed in the hospital for weeks (maybe a month or two not sure)
    He GAINED fluids and died of a heart attack. Theres enough video footage of Atkins, 10 days before he slipped and fell, and he was healthy and a great weight.
    Stop trying to shove your views on everyone.
    If I dont like your fruit and veggie diet, I will not do it.
    If you do not like Atkins, DO NOT DO IT.

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    Thanks for sharing that article Ryan. It's unfortunately simply agenda/propaganda as it provides no support for it's fundamental statements.

    The final piece-
    "a program that results in short term weight loss (at best), is nearly impossible to follow, and eventually causes extremely poor health"

    This tidbit is contrary to hundreds of thousands of Atkins followers who have experienced long term, controlled weight loss, found it very easy to follow and experienced dramatic improvements in health (lower blood pressure, higher metabolism, additional energy).

    There is no single-bullet theory diet that works for everyone since body chemistry, exercise, metabolism and personal lifestyles vary so greatly. I would easily say that for the vast majority of Americans, *any* form of program that puts emphasis on a structured dietary intake could only be beneficial. In Atkins case, higher protein consumption builds body density and reduced carbohydrates reduces exercise requirements. This makes it a really good "first try" diet for Americans on-the-go, obese to overweight, and that do little to no exercise.

    Long, long before Atkins was even a known name, trainers and dietary specialists encouraged similar values, but added more watch points in diet. I don't see why there is so much negative controversy over Atkins' death when his diet plan has helped many, many Americans and is obviously not a best-fit for everyone.
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    Ryan, just because someone cannot follow their own advice doesn't mean they can't offer sound advice. We're not all Jack Lalaines who have the discipline to carry out everything we promote.

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    Dreamer, you are right about that. Although I do not know if Atkins followed his own "low carb" diet, I KNOW he did not die of obesity.


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    Lexi is right. They showed pictures of him tonite on TV. He had a nasty fall, and the medication DID make him retain some fluid. He had CHF. (Congestive Heart Failure,) and survived only to have a heart attack soon after. The meds, for trauma, pain and to help combat fluid are tough on thre healthiest of bodies.

    He simply died. People in the best of heath can code, suffer sudden heart block, heart attacks and at an early age, you never know when or why you will die, no matter what your diet, as we even pass small clots alot of the times harmless, and we never know.

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    In my mind, the whole low carb thing should persuade one into cutting out excessive munching on junk. Eat fruits, veggies and nuts, with high fiber whole grains thrown in. I guess that's what works best for me. Though I must say since cleaning up my diet, I've just naturally cut out so much meat for the most part. I feel good. (vodka's a killer though!)
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    He simply died. People in the best of heath can code, suffer sudden heart block, heart attacks and at an early age, you never know when or why you will die, no matter what your diet, as we even pass small clots alot of the times harmless, and we never know.
    Reaffirms my theory that it is mostly a game of genetics and chance.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=5;threadid=7116;start=msg82132#msg82132 date=1078729067
    Reaffirms my theory that it is mostly a game of genetics and chance.....
    Absolutely. The best way statistically to enjoy long life is to choose your parents carefully. And even then, nothing's for sure.

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