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    I understand your feelings and don't want you to think I am putting you down by quoting this. From science writer Maggie Scarf in 1980 on "promiscuous" women:

    "To offer one's body and at the same time withhold the self is a wonderful way of expressing a good deal of underlying fury---and wonderfully confusing for the other person."

    I can personally attest to that second part.

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    ps: hold that word "fury" in your mind.

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    some say that women dance for the money, however it is usually because they are conditiioned into thinking that they aare oonly sex objects and that is their only role what is more interested however is the reason why men go in to a strip club

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsifal link=board=27;threadid=7123;start=msg80718#msg8071 8 date=1078389279
    "To offer one's body and at the same time withhold the self is a wonderful way of expressing a good deal of underlying fury---and wonderfully confusing for the other person."
    That's pretty funny. I don't know about expressing underlying fury, for me anyway, but the wonderfully confusing for the other person part is amazingly accurate!
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    They are confused that we act like we want them but we don't!!!

    I don't dance to fill a void or something so the first part isn't accurate for me. I don't like it when text book writers generalize such a diverse section of the population. We all dance for different reason's.

    Personally I dance cause I like staying up late and I like entertaining people. The money is great and I get to be wild a few days a week and a mommy and student the rest of the time. It is my sexual outlet.
    I am expressing my sexuality, not my fury. I have nothing to be furious at. My life rocks!!!!!
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    You go girl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotherDaisy link=board=27;threadid=7123;start=msg80968#msg8096 8 date=1078452070
    They are confused that we act like we want them but we don't!!!

    I don't dance to fill a void or something so the first part isn't accurate for me. I don't like it when text book writers generalize such a diverse section of the population. We all dance for different reason's.
    MotherDaisy, first it was a textbook quoting a science writer. And she was not writing about dancers. She was writing about promiscuous women. Here's more: "When is an active sex life with a large number of partners to be viewed as high spirits, and when is it sexual acting out? When is a person's sexuality an affirmation of life, and when is it to be seen as self-defeating, masochistic, hurtful of the self and others" She could be considering the lives of men as well as women here.

    All of these ideas are being taken out of their context, if you want the whole story go to the library and look up Maggie Scarf's article in the July, 1980 issue of Phychology Today. The year this was written is almost history for most of you. Some things change (gay marriage) and some don't (sexism and racism.)

    I posted the original quote because it "suggested" concepts that mirrored dancers' and clients' lives. It was not really meant to suggest that this was the reason anyone danced. Although I thought the subject's title would bring a little lightness to NikkiD's post on "Please, why do I strip?" about the problems of clubs that don't understand when the club has a bad night the dancers suffer the most.

    But it felt just right about how I feel as a client after a satisfying dance---wonderfully confused. It is not that we think you "want" us. It is the fact that for us we can leave feeling very sexy and also emotionally drained. That's my take on being a client.

    parsifal

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    I only danced for the money i was making, and got out of clubs. Now i have control and do private parties only when i want and with who i want. No house fee, tip outs etc. It's great! More fun! More 1 on1 take your time $$$$$ to be made.

    If i did not make the money i did, i would have stopped along time ago.
    Pamela

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    I don't think there is a parallel between a "promiscuous" woman that withholds "self" while "giving up her body" and a stripper, necessarily. I think that quote resounds a different activity than simply performing nude, removal of clothes or a lap dance! Sounds more to me like emotionally detached sex.

    Either way, it is a very wide brush to be painting such a wide variety of personalities, needs and lifestyles. The problem with generalities is- while they may hold true given a certain sub-set of people, the results can chage dramatically if scope is widened to different age groups, backgrounds or even geographic locations.

    Even the given result can vary. Confusion for some might instead be fulfillment, happiness, anxiety, depression or other reactions based on the receipient. Humans are messy.. and I wouldn't have it any other way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by parsifal link=board=27;threadid=7123;start=msg80718#msg8071 8 date=1078389279

    ps: hold that word "fury" in your mind.

    uh Parsifal what's with the hold the word fury in your mind ?


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    Default Re:Why you dance

    <uh Parsifal what&#039;s with the "hold the word fury in your mind" ?>

    Earlier in the week, there was a dancer who was angry at being short-changed by management on a slow Tuesday night. Use that energy source (fury) and let it transform your dance.

    parsifal

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