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    I don't know what to think about something that happened to me at work today. I was sitting by the stage with this older gentleman who gave the girl on stage a 10, but then he gave her a 100 dollar bill. Not wanting him to get shafted when he wouldn't be able to find it later, I asked him if he'd meant to give her that bill. He said he had meant to give her a five and had gone into the wrong pocket by mistake. So he called the girl over and exchanged the 100 for the 5. Now, I come to find out later that all the girls at work are now accusing me of "cutting" the other girl by pointing out the faux pas to the customer. They asked if I'd have given the 100 back if I'd been the one on stage and didn't believe me when I truthfully said I would. Their view is that once it leaves the customer's hands, it's their's, whether the guy made an honest mistake or not. Now, I'd love to know what everybody else thinks. Should I have told him about it, or just let the girl have a VERY big tip?
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    Wow, sounds like a weird situation. I'd have probably handed it back if I were on stage, and if I were the one watchng, like you were, I'd probably have mentioned it, accidentally. I probably would have said, "Wow, you are a really great tipper!!!" and accidentally given it away but I can see how that would cause problems.
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    People think that when you are in an SC it's OK to undercut people or not question whether they meant to give you money that they had. I've seen it happen and one excuse I've heard is something to do with the fact that they deserve it because they are men or something similarly stupid. I saw a guy drop a tenner and a dancer just picked it up. When he said he dropped it by accident and wanted it back she told him to f*ck off! Very bad and it can really ruin someone's night at the club

    No honey, you did the right thing. And I'm glad you did. I'm sorry it's causing you aggro now but at least you are a genuinely honest person. Maybe that guy felt happy knowing you did that. He may even come back again and give you good business to reward your honesty! (fingers crossed)
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    someone gave me a big bill once on accident... and i gave it back... the other girls think i'm a sucker but i believe in karma

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    Just before Christmas two years ago, I stopped at a low-end club to see a favorite. She was on stage (more like a corral actually) completely nude except for a garter. She hung upside down off the side of the corral, and a fat hayseed tipped her five Benjamins. Maybe it was the room-and-board money for his mother, but it was also more than the dancer ever made in a day. She came over to me with her mouth wide open in amazement, not even thinking it could have been a mistake. Her only question was, "What should I do, blow him?" I told her to offer it with hugs and kisses, which she did, but he left before she finished her set. No one ever saw him again.... In Christy's case, I think she did the right thing for the club and all the dancers. I never bring anything larger than a 20 into a club.

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    While I do think that reporting it to the customer was the right thing to do, I think you went about handling it the wrong way. You should have done soemthing like what Lexi suggested so it doesn't look like you are jealous of her windfall, but in admiration of it. Once you come off as jealous, you are seen as vindictive, and then you have to deal with a bunch of dancers that don't see you as somone they can trust.

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    Actually Emily, I think you have a great point. Although she was right in bringing it up, I can see how the other dancers saw it as vindictive. But sometimes when you honestly react to things like that, you don't always think it through at the time. And the fact that dancers most of the time go out of their way to 'outdo' others, you can see why they suspected her motives and were p*ssed off.

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    We have a couple of regulars that come in and after afew drinks the money starts to flow. Once I was on stage and another girl was sittong on one guys lap at the stage and the ones are flying. She keeps taking money from their pile and tippng me. Next thing I know she grabs a $100 from his pile and throws it on stage. I was dumbfounded. When I got down the guy asked me if she gave me $100 and I said yes and tried to hand it back to him but he wouldn't take it, even though he was not happy about what she did. She told me to return the favor but I couldn't bring myself to do it. I also beleive in kharma.

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    The honest, trustworthy and earnest dancers are always the ones that wind up with more loyal and generous regulars in the long run. Most customer's can sense a good thing when they see it.

    The less earnest dancers, while they may have short term gains to boast about, are usually the ones that can't understand why they can't make tipout/fees and rent during slow periods while the more deserving dancers are staying afloat from well deserved regulars.

    Bravo Christy for being honest.
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    Christy, if I were the guy I'd be your regular customer by now. The other girls are off base, you did the right thing. And if they're pissed at you over this, you don't want them as friends anyway.
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    I would've mentioned it to the customer "accidentally", as a pp said.

    If I was the girl on stage, I wouldn't approached the customer after my set and said something to the effect of "that was a fabulous tip you gave me on stage, should we consider it a pre-pay for some lap dances?"

    if he gave it to me on accident (i.e., he really doesn't have a ton of money to throw around), then he'll probably take me up on the offer. That way I get to keep the money and he doesn't get completely robbed, and if I do my dances well, he might continue getting dances. if he says, "no, it was a mistake," then i give it back to him and did my good deed for the day.

    if he gave it to me on purpose (i.e., he's a baller), then he probably has plenty of more money in his pocket, and would have spent that money on me in VIP anyway, and will prolly tell me just to keep it. Might get dances anyway, but if he does, prolly won't consider that $100 as towards it.

    no bad karma possible handling it that way. yay!!

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    Definitely a tough situation for everyone involved.

    I have been seeing this one dancer at a club I frequent on a regular basis. Even thoug I have been seeing her fairly regularly for several years now, she still accuses me of "over paying" everytime she dances for me and she challenges my tips. Maybe she is trying to save me from the evil influence of scotch - but I have never made a mistake yet. *grin* But she at least tries to save me from myself!

    Since a "thank you" is what I would expect in return for a tip - not all of us expect extras when we tip you know! - perhaps a "thank you? Are you sure?" was all that was required from the dancer on stage.

    On the other hand, if the guy had been an a-hole, I would have taken the money and run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SW2 link=board=8;threadid=7140;start=msg81150#msg81150 date=1078490313
    Just before Christmas two years ago, I stopped at a low-end club to see a favorite. She was on stage (more like a corral actually) completely nude except for a garter. She hung upside down off the side of the corral, and a fat hayseed tipped her five Benjamins. Maybe it was the room-and-board money for his mother, but it was also more than the dancer ever made in a day. She came over to me with her mouth wide open in amazement, not even thinking it could have been a mistake. Her only question was, "What should I do, blow him?" I told her to offer it with hugs and kisses, which she did, but he left before she finished her set. No one ever saw him again.... In Christy's case, I think she did the right thing for the club and all the dancers. I never bring anything larger than a 20 into a club.
    The guy gave her a huge tip, no questions asked, and you tell her she should go blow him?? Just becuase a guy tips well does not mean the dancer 'owes' him anything other than a kind thank you.

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    actually she asked if she should blow him!! The guy didnt say she should...read it again (i thought the same thing the first time i read through)


    I think that what you did was right. We are dancers, we should be happy for what tips we already recieve and not try to take advantage of a guy who had no idea what he was doing.

    which ever way she decided to do it.. it doesnt matter as long as she did. She could have softened what she was saying by "wow you tip well," and thats a great alternative. But thats only if you can think THAT FAST to know that you may come of as vindictive..

    You did what was right in my perspective. If you would tell a guy if he gave you a hundred dollor tip on stage, there is no way you were trying to be vindictive.
    he thought the 100 dollor bill was a dollor bill, which leads me to believe the 10 dollor bill he gave her was also meant to be a dollor bill. This guy sounds like he has some kind of visual handicap, and please girls.. LETS NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE of someone who has that.

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    you deffinately went about it the wrong way this happened to me once and i didn't realized that i had gotten a $100 bill until i went to the locker room and when i saw it i said out loud wow this guy tipped me $100 infront of some girls so happend that this jelous b*tch went to the stage and told the guy that he tipped me $100 before i could get back out of the dressing room.. so happened that the guy was one of my regulars ...anyhow i gave it back to him and he gave me half of it ...the next day i went back on stage and another guy tipped me $100 without me even realizing it when i did i went back out and he was gone which to me means that it was meant to happen that way (it was meant for me to have gotten that $100 bill)........it does make you look jelouse by just going up to the customer and telling him .....maybe you should have said somthing to the girl first ...furthermore i dont pay attention to the girls on stage much less take notice of what customers are tipping them......
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    Wow! I would have assumed he meant to give it to her unless I knew better - like say it was my boyfriend or someone I knew. Otherwise I probably would not have said anything. I get $100 tips all the time.

    Once I was sharing a stage with another dancer and a guy threw a wadded $50 on the stage with a wadded up $5. The deal was to split whatever we got on stage but she claimed this guy was *her regular* so the $50 was for her. Not really caring I said "whatever." I figured it wasn't worth fighting over.

    In the dressing room later she told me he had done it as an accident. I don't know if she gave it back. I don't imagine she did.

    As my favorite manager once said: How does a man give a dancer a $100? Under a $1 if he's a gentleman.
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    Christy, I think you did the right thing. I think it's terrible that some people think it's okay to undercut someone (whether it's in a strip club or not). It was nice to see that other dancers felt the same way too.
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    This thread clearly reflects the tension between a "sense of entitlement" and "thoughtful honesty" in clubs. Something like this happened to me two years ago. I got dances from a stunningly beautiful girl who returned a few minutes later with $280 and said, "You left this behind. I only did two dances."... When other dancers heard what happened, they told her she was a fool. I don't think so. She went on my account for $20K a year and all her college tuition after that.

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    Did you give her too much $$ on purpose, as test, to see if she was "genuine" enough for you?

    This is not an honest business, take your truth where you want it, but don't expect anyone else to do shit for you in a strip club, dancers and customers both............

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    Well, I must say thanks for all the helpful advice about this. However, I do believe that I was slightly in the wrong and could have phrased things a little bit better. Basically, should this come up again, I would either do the big tipper comment if I knew the guy or leave it be if I'd never seen him before. I mean, my bf had a good point when I told him about it- I may only see this guy that one time, but I have to deal with my coworkers on a daily basis. (Btw, had never seen the old guy in b4, and doubt he'll be back in since he was disappointed when I had told him later that we were now a clean club.) So, I was right AND wrong in this, but I do believe that a certain amount of honesty with these guys WILL get you farther in the long run. I really don't want to be one of those chicks they bitch about at stripclublist.com.
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    Katrine, the money fell out of my pocket. That had never happened before.... Pan Dah, nine customers out of ten SHOULD complain. That is sooo unfair.

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    If my money fell out of my purse/pocket/garter I know I would never see it again. If a customer didn't snatch it up a dancer would. Hell I spend a considerable amount of energy just not getting robbed. It's nice all the girls give back their $100 tips but I am with Katrine on this. Don't expect shit from anyone in a stripclub.

    And I agree with Pan Dah that those guys on stripclublist.com would still find something to bitch about no matter what you do.
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    You did the right thing. Making the customer aware of the error is important, unless you know the guy is a big tipper. Being honest and upfront will bring the guys back time and time again. Guys know who the honest and open dancers are, and who isn't. I usually give dancers one or two chances to "prove" themselves. If they don't dance well, say things that are off kilter or just don't mesh with me...I don't get dances from them anymore. Though, as an aside, it's rare for me to get a dance from anyone who isn't my favorite. I've only been to her club once when she called in, and then I got some dances. The girls who didn't click with me didn't get more than one or two dances. I don't think that'll happen again though...I prefer to spend my money on my favorite.
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    I had a girl once after I gave her a folded $20 on stage ask if I had meant to give her that. Why yes I did. Most would have just tucked it away and maybe not even noticed. She seems so sincerely overjoyed by this gesture that it was definitely worth it. Makes me remember her a lot more fondly. I may have liked her to begin with, but she really high on my list at the moment.
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