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    Anyone works for the DejaVu or Larry Flynt's Hustler Club? I heard bad and good things. They are opening up a club in Manhattan I would like to know about how the other clubs are doing.

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    Suck city - they take a huge amount of your money. I would be really worried in any city they move into that the other clubs would follow suit.

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    fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view, Manhattan clubs already hit dancers up for significant amounts of money. The only real difference will be the way one club collects money from dancers vs another club. DejaVu/Hustler's typical 33-50% rake of dancers private dance sales isn't much different in total dollars than having to pay the large up-front stage fees already charged by most Manhattan clubs plus splitting Champagne Room money.

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    Wow, I heard of bad but that's terrible.

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    All the more reason to check out GOGORama & Delilah's
    in N.J.- money's just as good & usually BETTER
    because of much,much lower stage fees & tip-outs.

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    I just started at the Hustler in Baltimore.. and I'm making killer money. The place is brand new, very upscale, and the clientele is polite and well-mannered. It's really rather nice. They run specials so often that I'm not really having to hustle for my dances.. so all around, it's a pretty decent place to be, imho.

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    Sahara what is trhe dress code for the dancers there.

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    Deja Vu is notorious for taking huge cuts of dancer money, often to the point of leaving the dancers with little actual take home. I have read about girls selling VIPs at Vu clubs and taking home less than $100 for the night. Also with all the merchandise specials and bullshit they force the dancers to sell for the club, no way will I EVER set foot in one. HELL NO. And if I ever find myself in a town where they're taking over, I'll get the hell out.

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    LOL thank you Bridgette.

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    I'm currently at Hustler/DV in SF. There is a recently submitted review for dancers from me in the club review section. I must add, though, that I LOVE my club. There are so many variables that can make or break your experience at a club including, but not limited to management and staff.

    If you go work there in Manhattan, let us know how it is!

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    I'm at Deja Vu and I love my club, I hate the corporation! They are money hungry and have little to no appreciation for the girls, I'm only lucky that I have great managers to soften the corporate ass whooping when I pay my house rent every night.


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    Hustler/DejaVu is indeed a "corporate club". Management/financial decisions are made at a corporate headquarters, and those decisions are based on a plan that dancers are merely interchangeable laborers. If you land in a Hustler/DejaVu club where the local club management is decent, enjoy it, but keep in mind that any significant decisions are out of the hands of your local club manager !

    Resign yourself to the fact that, one way or another, the club is going to extract 33-50% of your earnings as their "cut". Also, resign yourself to the fact that if you aren't willing to play by their rules and smile at the same time, that they'll have no qualms finding another dancer who will.

    Where Manhattan is concerned, Scores and Penthouse are also "corporate clubs" - although they don't have nationwide coverage. But they certainly have the same sort of corporate management, accountants, and lawyers. In the long run, they also have the same attitude towards their dancers. And they also collect a hefty chunk of every dancer's earnings, although it may be in the form of a $200+ per night stage fee instead of a percentage of every private dance sold.

    Hustler/DejaVu is notorious for pulling a "WalMart" when they open a new club in a new market. This usually involves "buying" dancers away from local clubs with low "introductory" fees and percentages, stirring up anti-dance club sentiment with local government, using their corporate legal muscle to out-last local club owners through the resulting problems with city cops/government, and THEN raising the sleaze factor as well as dancer fees and percentages after other local clubs exhibit signs of financial trouble - such that the dancers who moved to Hustler/DejaVu now have no option but to keep working there despite suddenly increased mileage requirements and the increased fees and percentages (because the earnings potential in their former clubs has been cut to half of what it used to be).

    However, I doubt that it can go down this way in New York City, because Scores and Penthouse have deep pockets themselves, they have their own legal muscle and they already have contacts at city hall and the police stations. If nothing else, the ensuing events after Hustler/DejaVu opens in Manhattan will be interesting to watch !

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    As a customer and longtime industry observer, there's a HUGE difference from one Deja Vu to another. In some the dancers are like robots or ATM's that dance. They march around like Stepford Wives when the blue lights start flashing or the DJ says "mystery dance." It's a mystery to me how those dances differ from any other! IMO, Las Vegas Deja Vu is one of the worst. The dancers appear to hate it there and take that out on the customers. On the other hand, I was recently in the Nashville Vu and it was great. Friendly dancers & staff. Everyone appeared to get along. No ripoffs. Very few Deja Vu gimmicks. $15 dances and normal length songs. Best club in Nashville! There's no doubt that the Vu takes a bigger piece of the dancers' money than most others. It's especially frustrating to customers where they have the floor staff walking around with a clipboard, tracking dancers. But that seems to be in fewer Deja Vu's than in the past.

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    Thank you for the info Jay.

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    I just called the Hustler Club in NYC and the guy that answered the phone said they are not doing any more hiring until 2 weeks after the Grand Opening which is this week. He said they have more than enough girls due to all the girls they are flying in from all over.
    Thank God I called before hiking my butt down there and paying a ridiculous price for parking to find out I couldn't audition.

    I also called on this past Saturday and the female that answered said they were doing auditions today ,Monday, and if hired I could work the Grand Opening. I would really appreciate it if someone would call the club at (212)247-2460 and let us all know what story you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss george link=board=4;threadid=7171;start=msg84510#msg84510 date=1079362739
    I'm just making a guess here, but I think the Deja Vu that opens here in NYC might adjust their usual policies to be more like the local Manhattan club rules. Otherwise, how will they get any dancers?

    But Melonie is probably right; if the total amount of money the club takes is similar to other clubs, it won't make much of a difference. It's all about the money you leave the club with.
    I might disagree being that there are some many clubs that are trying to be just like Scores,PEC,etc. I think it might be a bit different. Variety is the key.

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    Yea 300 is a let down. Maybe they would do like what other NYC club do and have a flat house fee. Also I remember when I started they opened one in Queens but it was Dejavu and it went flop. So I hope they make the right choices.

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    since Hustler/Vu clubs are so corporate are the legaly safer ? I don't hear of their clubs getting busted alot and yet I hear about high mileage 2 ? Do they pay off local goverment ? I understand they make u sign a contract that says u wont work for other clubs- is that really true or just club by club ? Are there any lower contact Hustler/Vu clubs ?

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    The new club looks nice and they have poles...lol.They told me to come in in 2 weeks. I went to late. I'll see how it is.

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    Well, the opening of the Manhattan Hustler club managed to get the subject of all of these new west side clubs splashed all over the 10:00 NYC news last night. It seems that with Larry Flynt now joining the fray, the NYC councilwoman for the Chelsea (west side) district has managed to link Larry Flynt's history as a "smut peddler" and the opening of PEC and other new clubs on the west side of Manhattan to start a new anti-dance club crusade. She has called for increased police patrols in the area of the west side strip clubs - which the TV news referred to as "porno row".

    The councilwoman also raised the issue that the close proximity of these new west side clubs to city funded redevelopment projects may cause these projects to fail due to reluctance of would-be new renters to live next to strip clubs, thus costing the city a fortune in lost taxpayers money which was used to subsidize these projects. This is the first time since the Juliani days that a NYC government official has come out strongly against strip clubs, and does not bode well for the future.

    This new anti-dance club crusade would seem to fit right in with Hustler/Deja Vu's typical "WalMart" plan for areas where they open new clubs.

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