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    For those who have done or are doing VIP's I have a question. When u first started doing that how did u know what to charge for doing oral sex or both sex and oral sex? also,do u have certain things u ask or go through to make sure u are not dealing with an undercover cop?I truly don't mean to offend anyone with these questions, this is what i am dealing with at the club i'm at. I am not doing VIP'S right now really dont plan 2 but I was always curious because i wouldn't know what to charge people

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    Default Re:For those who do VIP's

    Damn, I thought VIPs were strictly meant for a more intimate enviornment for the dancer and the customer, and not all that stuff... but to answer your question...
    I would say that you can never tell who is an undercover cop so you'd be risking it everytime you went in with someone. As far as money, I wouldnt have the slightest idea about what to charge someone. Those acts, to me are a bit much to be charging so freely.
    Hope someone responds who can help you...

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    Lexi, I had to ask the question. yes for some people at some clubs the VIP room is exactly what u said. However, here in chicago in some of the clubs u can do that, but most of the time its a sexual act involved unfortunately. i can only wish 2 be in a club where VIP is only dancing and talking privately.......

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    Naughty, that must suck. Are there any other clubs where you can go? I know moving is such a silly thing to tell you to do, since most people can not do that, but are there clubs you can drive to even if out of the way?
    I would hate to have to feel like thats the only way I could make money.
    Hopefully you'll get some good customers who wont even ask for that kind of thing, ya know? Not all customers want that, so you may get a bunch who dont. As for the ones who do, (and while I dont condone this) charge there asses a lot. If they are going to be getting all that stuff, it better be at a high price.

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    OH MY GAWD!

    I hope no one gets this girl's posts mixed with mine. Is this person serious?

    I have one thing to say to "Naughty" if this is the kind of service she wants to sell...go work at a legal brothel in Nevada.

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    Default Re:For those who do VIP's

    first of all i would like to make one thing clear. I am not a prostitue. i asked this question because thats whats goes on at the club that i am at.i did not ask this question to start doing it i just find it hard to put a price on stuff like sex just to give out to anybody for money.if u want to share how much u charge then fine if not then dont just comment on the situation. also to nawtygirl, i cannot change my name. yours is spelled very different than mine, and if people cant tell the difference then i dont know what to tell you.its amazing how one question just gets u in a whole lot of trouble.

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    in Chicago ? NOT!

    Maybe over in Hammond across state line but not in Chicago. Not buying this persons post one teeny bit.

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    Default Re:For those who do VIP's

    rayanna:you must not be in chicago. there are some small clubs, social clubs in chicago that have strippers in them. and the stuff i mentioned above does go on in these small social clubs that hardly no one knows about only through word of mouth. open your mind to other things that go on under the table jus because u have not heard of this doesnt mean it does not go on

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    I've worked in Chicago and so I am familar with the scene there and thats why I am doubting but at any rate if you are actually having to deal with this I have a very simple suggestion ~ Work in an upscale club !

    Which club in Chicago is this anyway?

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    don't feel stupid Pan Dah...I did too...sorry Nawty!...looked so similar and I'm used to seeing your name....thank goodness you said something! Wow....I was so shocked for a moment....now that I know it's not our Nawty I guess I can ignore this thread. *whew*
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyGyrl link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82418#msg8241 8 date=1078799512
    also to nawtygirl, i cannot change my name. yours is spelled very different than mine, and if people cant tell the difference then i dont know what to tell you.
    Yes you change your name- check out http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/ind...ort/t4293.html


    what club this is ~ I'm quite sure traveling dancers not familar with Chicago would want to avoid a situation like the one you described. Maybe you could help out others by telling us what Chicago club has BJ and FS going on regularly in Vip

    edited to add: she did answer my question btw - all non extras dancers might want to avoid the following clubs: one is called club cherries, and the other is interstate290.

    Can't say I've heard of either place and I can't find them on tuscl or stripclublist.com either so I dont think too many unsuspecting traveling dancers are going to wander into these clubs.

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    Um, maybe the real Nawty could put a big pic by her name saying "I'm the REAL one" or something...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82464#msg8246 4 date=1078805387
    Yeah, I tried SCL too, I guess between your edits. Also don't show up in a fairly thorough check of the "superpages" [Verizon] telephone directory site. Getting real, real deep under ground here.
    I guess so ~ I'd say if a dancer wanted to avoid prostitution it helps tremendously to stick to commerical clubs and avoid the underground scene.
    Nawty2- if you really don't want to deal with bj and fs in the vip room try getting hired at any of the following clubs :
    Admiral
    VIP's ( old crazyhorse)
    Scores
    Scarletts

    things are a little more relaxed over in Harvey but extras are still not super common there so you could also try Club O or Skybox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NawtyGirl link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82416#msg8241 6 date=1078799095
    OH MY GAWD!

    I hope no one gets this girl's posts mixed with mine. Is this person serious?
    Not to fear Nawty. Her post count was a dead giveaway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayanna link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82421#msg8242 1 date=1078799876
    in Chicago ? NOT!

    Maybe over in Hammond across state line but not in Chicago. Not buying this persons post one teeny bit.
    I agree. 6 total posts and I'll bet most are in this thread. Seems like a fishing trip.
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    Some of you guys are acting brand new. You now that these acts are going on in even the most prestiges clubs. We all know that sex sells. Don't blame the club,
    don't blame the girl,blame the money......It can be a million reason why a female choose to do a V.I.P! Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be one sided. I'm very aware of the situation. Face it some people have to do what they have to do. It shouldn't effect you that another female does V.I.P'.S! When you are at the club you are there to do only one thing and that's to make nothing but money. You are not there to conversate with the customer or client to see if he's married or how many kids that he has. You are there to show your potential in giving the guys a fantasy show or lap dance etc. They are paying $10,$15,to $20 dollars to get in just to see naked women stroll the floor. Face we are not saints. Some guys don't have a problem with spending there money on you. You have females that's already having sex for drugs,clothes,or maybe a place to stay. But if you expose those type of females to the exotic dancing they will have a field day. All i have to do is give a lap dance for $10,$20 dollars that's it! She will
    feel that she could have sex for a higher price. YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP LIVING IN THE WHITE&BLACK AREA
    AND STEP INTO THE GRAY AREA. V.I.P.'S ARE NOT ANYTHING NEW. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR THE LONGEST AND IT WILL NEVER EVER STOP.........OH YEAH THIS REPLY IS A GENERAL ONE AND NOT DIRECTLY POINTED AT ONE PERSON..........NaughtyGyrl I GOT YOUR BACK..............2MG

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2MUCHENTERTAINMENT link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82484#msg8248 4 date=1078810978
    Some of you guys are acting brand new. You now that these acts are going on in even the most prestiges clubs.
    Inside the most elite clubs huh ? You think there are FS sessions going on in the vip rooms at VIP's, Scores, PentHouse Exec ???

    WHATEVER !

    Sure there might be the occasional out of the club "date" but inside clubs like VIP's and Scores NY- try again. Sounds like somebody else is the one who needs a reality check

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    Funny. My bf went to a neighborhood bar in Chicago with a country western theme that was having a "lingerie show." The "models" were doing full-on grinding lap dances on the floor. It was $10 a song plus customer had to pay for song in jukebox. ???There were only two models.

    Perhaps there were Very Important Panties being modeled in the back? heh

    I honestly would like to hear more from girls who do extra's, if for no other reason than to know which clubs to avoid. I have questions - do the guys just pud on the floor like in hotel rooms? Or are there tissues in there? Or do the girls just swallow it or what?
    You get what you put up with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayanna link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82497#msg8249 7 date=1078812601
    Quote Originally Posted by 2MUCHENTERTAINMENT link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82484#msg8248 4 date=1078810978
    Some of you guys are acting brand new. You now that these acts are going on in even the most prestiges clubs.
    Inside the most elite clubs huh ? You think there are FS sessions going on in the vip rooms at VIP's, Scores, PentHouse Exec ???

    WHATEVER !

    Sure there might be the occasional out of the club "date" but inside clubs like VIP's and Scores NY- try again. Sounds like somebody else is the one who needs a reality check
    RAYANNA- I'M NOT ON HERE TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHIN. DEAL IS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE FS IN OUT THE CLUBS IT IS STILL GOIN TO HAPPEN.......

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    FS in the club is a big deal and alot of dancers are way sick and tired of being stereotyped as whores when most are not, saying that FS goes on out in the open or in vip rooms of most elite clubs is not only irresponsible, it's a flat out lie
    There are select areas of the country where you might find extras inside an upscale club- Houston for example but the vast majority of upscale clubs do not tolerate such behavior, not even close. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayanna link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82504#msg8250 4 date=1078814711
    FS in the club is a big deal and alot of dancers are way sick and tired of being stereotyped as whores when most are not, saying that FS goes on out in the open or in vip rooms of most elite clubs is not only irresponsible, it's a flat out lie
    There are select areas of the country where you might find extras inside an upscale club- Houston for example but the vast majority of upscale clubs do not tolerate such behavior, not even close. Sorry to burst your bubble.
    RAYANNA- I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT! IF YOU SAY THAT 2+2=100 YOU ARE RIGHT......YOU WIN! WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE NEGATIVES AND POSITIVES TO THIS SITUATION. I NOW THAT THE FEMALE'S THAT DOESN'T DO THE THE V.I.P.'S DON'T LIKE TO BE STEREOTYPED BY THE ONE'S THAT DO IT. BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT. YOU TELL ME A SOLUTION.....WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THE MINDS OF A FEMALE WHO HAS BEEN DOING V.I.P.'S SO LONG TO STOP AND JUST DO LAP DANCES.
    ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT ON HERE TO ARGUE OR TO POINT THE FINGER BUT TO INFORM IN A POSITIVE WAY........I'M LISTENING...........

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    Doing a vip DOES NOT mean extras , not doing a vip does not mean a dancer doesnt do extras either.

    You can't change the mind of a prostitute, only she can do that ,but you can weed them out of clubs for the well being of the rest of the club~ including the customers who don't want their club closed down or raided. This particularly important in upscale clubs since alot of the people who work in them and attend them do so because they are interested in dances not sex.

    Best solution for prostitutes, go work in legal brothels. Second best solution is to have them work for escort agencies. I'd like to see prostitution be legalized for the safety of all involved but thats not going to happen anytime soon so....

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    FROM A GENERAL STANDPOINT I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE......THE SOCIETY AS WE ALL KNOW [email protected]#$%*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARIES link=board=27;threadid=7250;start=msg82378#msg8237 8 date=1078788740
    Lexi, I had to ask the question. yes for some people at some clubs the VIP room is exactly what u said. However, here in chicago in some of the clubs u can do that, but most of the time its a sexual act involved unfortunately. i can only wish 2 be in a club where VIP is only dancing and talking privately.......
    There are clubs everywhere that allow there girl to do those thing. But that dont mean you have to do it, because other girls do it. It illegal sweetie. And maybe you are not looking for the right clubs. I know that there are good clubs in Chicago.

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    Well, this thread went about as well as I would have expected such a topic...

    First, welcome to StripperWeb Nawty and I did see your coming-out post with pic. You are a very sexy and pretty woman! You should do very well in your area of Chicago, if not anywhere in the USA.

    I think it's a little discouraging the reaction that was given here. You have to understand this site has been attacked by juveniles a number of times posting false and often controversial issues (such as sex in strip clubs), so please attribute your not-so-warm welcome to those morons and not the many insightful and intelligent women found here who are justified to have a strong guard against such tomfoolery.

    That being said, the impressions you have expressed about VIP are not unfounded and mindsets established by both dancers and customers. There are various locker-room boasting forums coast to coast that detail portrayals of VIP experiences, describing by name, price and activity- be they totally fictional or true. From dancers, albeit lesser discussed, it also generates animosity or accusations toward that "one girl" that consistently takes men to VIP/Champagne for $700+ and becomes at least subliminally insisted she's doing more than a lapdance. Hell, on this very forum the same impressions you expressed can be found on the thread about a new dancer bringing a slew of regulars to a new club must obviously be doing extras by a few.

    So without further focus on the animosity or acceptance level of the assumption (which can never be agreed on), the point is- not all VIP visits involve sex. There are plenty of women coast to coast that can perform value-added VIP sessions without providing any form of sex services. You should strive to become one of them is what all the negative essence in this thread really stems from. Throwing all morality, politics, and ivory tower images out the window for a moment, for the simple reason of health and safety is a pretty good reason.

    It's absolutely futile to argue what degree of sex or no-sex occurs in stripclubs nationwide. As there isn't some trustworthy, unbiased source able to go tour all 3,000+ of them with infinite budget to create statistics, it all comes down to hearsay and personal opinion. In the context of this subject, it's pointless anyways since there are a number of full-on, open sex clubs between San Francisco and Houstin where there are some women that still sell pricier VIPs without performing sex in an environment where it is openly tolerated and encouraged. This adds support to the last point.

    Vanilla dog will never get her wish of having any 'extras' dancers participate (not as if they aren't already here.. just they are wise enough to know what happens when any hint is mentioned here..). Given the format of this forum, and the jobs these women have to do day to day, maybe it's not such an appropriate place for newer or veteran dancers that wish to escape that aspect.

    I personally know women that work both sides of the coin, and are each happy, successful and empowered by their jobs. Everyone has their own personal boundries and what they feel comfortable doing, and not everyone is aware enough to realize that geographics and dynamic vary so widely from place to place. Obviously, some things a travesty and dangerous in one place may be perfectly acceptable and tolerated in another. I just cant bring myself to condemn anyone that puts in hard work and has to deal with the kinds of things that are commonplace in the stripclubs. I wish a more "sisterly" approach could be had by the women here since many of you would make such fantastic role models and the peer support facet offerred here is second to none.

    So whatever you face down the road Nawty, good luck and by all means try to have fun and be safe! Do whatever is necessary to maintain your comfort level and I'm sure many here wish you great success up there in Chicago.

    And to 2MUCHENTERTAINMENT- I may be totally off-base, but your writing style and commentary strikes me as the kind of guy that "manages" lots of working ladies or possibly strippers. I've seen your ALL CAPS posts here in SF, and your attitude is an exact mirror of these kinds of people. Forgive me if I'm totally wrong, but my spider sense is tingling off-scale with each of your posts. If I'm right, my tolerance and compassion doesn't extend to that kind. It's my only exception.
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