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    Hi I am just so sick of hearing low carb this low carb that. Every resurant has new low carb meals and Atkin's diet stuff. I do not think people really realise how bad this diet is for you. It is like begging for a heart attack. When I see people eating a burger with lettuce wrapped around it I want to laugh. Could that be anymore disgusting and boring. My aunt did loose weight on a low carb diet but surpise surprise when she went off it she gained it all back. I lost ten pounds by eating a low fat diet and EXCESISE!!! I think people do not understand that there is good carbs and bad carbs. Good carbs: 100% Whole wheat bread, whole wheat pasta, whole grain cereal, beans, veggies, and fruit....Bad carbs: white bread, white pasta, sugary cearals, doughnuts, cookies, chips, pop, crackers. It just annoys me that they lump all carbs together like that. Carbs are good for your body and you need them for energy. A low carb diet is such an unatural way to eat. DON'T belive the hype about this crap unless you want triple bypass surgury. Sorry I just needed to vent!

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    you can eat low-carb without it being high fat and high cholesterol. And people of all diets can gain it back if they go back tot he way they were eating before. Also, the atkins diet pushes exercise. They also talk about good carbs and bad carbs, but when youa re trying to lose weight, you must eliminate both.

    So maybe you find the diet boring and disgusting. It doesn't mean it doesn't have a lot of merit.


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    Im actually sick of hearing people tell me that Atkins is bad for me. LOL I dont push the diet on anyone, but there is nothing wrong with HIGH PROTEIN, and low carbs. My ass expands like a wet sponge if I eat too many BAD carbs. Anyone who has read Atkins books KNOWS that when he talks carbs, he is talking about the shitty carbs. (White ones like pasta, bread, sugar, etc...) He recommends exercise and eating veggies cause they are good carbs. And when you want to MAINTAIN your weight, you just stick to the maximum carb level that your body will tolerate, without gaining weight.
    As for people saying, "Oh you'll gain it right back" I laugh because who the hell said I was going to screw up my diet??? I did it once, about 2 years ago when I messed up big time. But its a LIFESTYLE. Theres no need for me to eat pasta, when it does nothing nutritionally for me, yet just makes me gain weight and inches. I dont benefit at all, from white carbs. I just get fat.
    So no I am not sick of the low carb craze. I think Atkins knew it all along and people just talked crap about it, and are now realizing that low carb diets are not bad for you.


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    and to add... Atkins is not a quick fix. yes you will gain weight if you continue to eat like a slob. Only way to put it. People who do Atkins and then think they can go back to eating cakes and candies are in for a real surprise when there body says, "Oh shit, heres some of the bad stuff" and ya gain it right back, with interest!

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    By the way lilac, he doesnt lump all carbs together. He explains the difference between the two.

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    I, personally, lost weight on the Atkins Diet, and kept it off. I failed to lose weight on the Low Fat Diet, with exercise. With the Atkins Diet, as with any diet, you need to extract the good information and leave the bad. Many diets can be unhealthy if you choose them as a lifestyle, and stick to them like glue. I agree, the diet does have merit.

    I also can see that one could become annoyed with hearing about it. There will always be a new diet, be it a fad or a staple, to replace an older one. In 20 years maybe we'll be hearing about the All Junk Food Diet.

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    Yeah. I am annoyed by the low carb craze. I think its sheer lunacy. I do totally agree with Atkins that wheat is bad for people, and grains are bad too. And for all the newcomers out there, whole wheat is not much better than white wheat. Brown rice is not much better than white. Squash isn't much better than a white potato. True, white does mean that all of the vitamins have been stripped out of it during processing, but neither white or brown grains are supposed to be part of the human diet. Humans are NOT designed to eat ANY grains. Grains are for birds, they can digest them, we cant. Cooked, raw, fried, baked, blanched, whatever. Grains have only been in the human diet for 10k years at most, and we do not have the enzymes to digest them, our bodies simply have no idea what to do with grains when we eat them. That includes all corn, potatoes, rice, pasta, beans, bread, wheat, cereals, grains, muffins and noodles. Carbs are good for us, but not in the form of grains. Humans have been eating fruit and vegetables since day 1. For hundreds of thousands of years our diets consisted of fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and a small amount of meat. Long-term studies have shown that the longest lived people in the world comsume about 5% of their calories from meat, the rest from fruit and veggies. The Hunzas from Pakistan are 1 example of this. Their average life expectancy is about 100, and people in their community regularly live to 120. Health problems are virtually unknown. They all have perfect vision and perfect teeth. These people eat a very small amount of meat, and their staples are apples, apricots and figs. They are avid gardeners and also grow lettuce and tomatoes and many other vegetables.


    I think the whole diet thing is pretty simple. WHOLE FOODS. If a food can stay in your home for more than about a week without going bad, chances are it's not that good for you. When shopping, the foods around the outer rim of the supermarket tend to be the best. The produce, meat, and seafood departments. Although meats are highly treated with hormones, antibiotics, and seafood has extremaly higy levels of mercury, dioxin, and other cancer causing agents. This is the very reason I have reccommended a diet high in raw fruits and vegetables. 5%-10% of calories from meat is more than adequate for any human on earth for b-12, protien, iron, ect. Eating a diet that is high in meat will cause the body to leach calcium out of the bones trying to buffer the excess protien, and will cause the body to become very acidic, which leads to a wide array of health problems. Meat also contains no fiber, and a diet high in meat can block up our GI tract. Our digestive system is 99% identical to a chimpanzee, which eats about 97.5% percent of it's calories from fruit and vegetables, and hunts meat approximately 1-2 times a month, and eats it fresh and raw. A diet high in vegetation, low in protien, high in fiber, high in raw foods is a diet that will maintain ideal weight for our entire lives. This will also make us age slow, and provide longevity. Look at people like Paul Bragg (died at 95 while surfing in hawaii, in perfect health) who ate 98% raw foods (and meat a few times a year). Norman walker died at 119, he ate all raw food with occasional raw dairy. And Jack Lalanne, well, read a little about Jack Lalanne and you will be amazed at his health and he is in his 90's.... (he appears to be about 50) These are the diet's we should be following.

    It's very simple folks, fresh organic whole foods, eaten in their natural state. We don't need to be reading all books telling us how to eat. It's sheer logic. We know that french fries, cola, fried chicken, cigarettes, beer, pizza, bagels, donuts, coffee, pasta, ect are no good for us. We only eat them because we have become addicted. Conquering the addiction to negative foods is much like beating the addiction to all other drugs. It takes dedication, knowledge, and a will to change. We can all be healthier than we ever imagined by having a life of the right foods, sunshine, low-stress, laughter, and postivie relationships.

    A good quote to follow is:
    "If man makes it, don't eat it."

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    I understand your point Ryan, but my great grandmother is turning 98 this year and she is a full flegded woman... her parents from Spain and Cuba. And they eat TONS of rice, and tons of MEAT. Major amounts of fat too. Not to say its healthy but the only problem she has is her hip which is dislocated due to a fall a few years ago.

    I agree that fruits and veggies are really good for you, but I get fat if I eat too many carbs, be it NATURAL sugars or the nasty fake kinds like in breads, pastas and such. This is why I stick to my Atkins. Actually I cheated BIG BIG BIIIIIIIG time today. But as Rhia mentioned in an earlier thread, the monthly bill is coming soon, so I blame it on that. LOLOL

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    Thats great that she's holding up so well at such an old age. She must be very wise. I hope I last that long, I am curious to see how different the world will be in 75 years.

    With reguards to you grandmothers diet, I understand there are exceptions to every rule, differences in metabolic type, differences in genetics, ect. I was merely loosly reccommending a diet that would work well for all individuals, even your grandmother!

    Unfortunatly the human body didn't come with an instruction manual telling us what the ideal diet is. Thankfully, we are able to experiment and look, listen to what is working for others(and ourselves) I look for people redaiting health when looking for health advice. People like Normal Walker, Paul Bragg, David Wolfe, Dr. Mercola all seem to radiate health, and all follow almost the same diet. They all eat at least 90% raw food, and eat a very small amout of animal foods, if any at all.

    I am not only trying to add years to my life, but also life to my years. I don't want to be trapped in a body that I'm unable to enjoy. I would like to go out like Paul Bragg, he spent his last moments in this wolrd surfing in Hawaii at 95 years old. I am looking at the whole picture, not just age.

    Food is a huge factor in health, but there is so much more. Like I said: sunshine, relationships, fresh air, laughter, exercise, low-stress and personal satisfaction also play a HUGE role in overall health. New research is showing the ABSOLUTE NECESSITY of sunshine in our overall diet, and a lot of scientists are rething their "sun is bad" theories. We are a species designed for a life of "fun in the sun" Why do you think our bodies are virtually hairless? We are supposed to get a vast majurity of our micro nutrients from the sun. The sun is a food. If this topic interests you, research "biological transmutations" and see how the body converts sunlight into minerals.

    BTW, Dr. Mercola gives a free newsletter with a lot of the latest health information that I highly reccommend. His articles are short, sweet, and I guarntee that if you take even a few bits of the free information he gives, you will live a longer, healthier life. You can sign up for his newsletter at. www.mercola.com

    I wish the best health for every single on of you, you are all divine beings of light.


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    i'm sick of the low carb diet craze to!! every where you look there it is. the atkins diet fails to tell you that all the protien and no carbs causes all lot of strain on you digestive tract not to mention all the cholesterol and fat in the red meat that everyone on that diet lives on. yeah they lose weight but it doesn't stay off and can cause long term health problems if their on the diet for an extended amount of time.
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    Alwaysalady, I argee. Long term consumption of high protien foods is a recipe for disaster. The nations that have the highest protien intake are also the exact same nations that have the lowest life expectancy.

    The low carb diet that is promoted by atkins does have some merit because as stated above, it does make some people rethink their grain consumption, however, I think the whole thing has turned into one big media blitz. Now they are promoting atkins at every steakhouse, taco bell, subway, burger king and mcdonalds. Americans do not need more meat, they need more fruits and vegetables. WHOLE FOODS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYAN link=board=5;threadid=7284;start=msg83085#msg83085 date=1078965575
    but neither white or brown grains are supposed to be part of the human diet. Humans are NOT designed to eat ANY grains.
    WHAT :o How come I have never, ever, ever heard this before or even close to it from anyone ~including nutrition specalist, Dr.'s etc. ???

    Sorry but I doubt that is true.

    If it is can you please show me some documented data from a respected health organization

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    ME! I can't stand how it's all over the place the way it is... I mean, the guy who came up with it died of what? Wasn't it something heart related?
    My husband did it twice, the first time he lost weight (and gained it all back and then some when he went off of it), the second time he didn't seem to lose anything.
    I don't have anything against people using whatever diet they want, it just bugs me when things become "all the rage."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexxxySierra link=board=5;threadid=7284;start=msg83209#msg83209 date=1078987240
    ME! I can't stand how it's all over the place the way it is... I mean, the guy who came up with it died of what? Wasn't it something heart related?
    actually he died as a result of a fall. He did have a heart problem but it was congenital and from childhood and not in the least related to his low carb diest. There was a whole story about that "rumor" of his heart problem being related to his death on one of the news show~ 20/20 or 60 mins or some show like that.

    He was also near 80 years old and was in very good active condition until his fall.



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    yes it annoys the hell out of me... i love bread and i don't care... it's ridiculous... even burger king has low carb shit... they have like whoppers served in a salad bowl with no bun... it's nutty... but i guess some people would call me crazy since i'm a vegetarian and order a whopper with no meat... well i guess to each their own...

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    Rayenna, if the grain topic is of interest to you, check out the books

    "Grain Damage" Dr. Joseph Mercola

    "The no Grain Diet" Dr Joseph Mercola

    "Against the Grain" Jax Peters Lowell

    "Good Food, Milk Free, Grain Free" Hilda Cherry Hills

    "Special Diet Solutions: Healthy Cooking Without Wheat, Gluten, Dairy,
    Eggs, Yeast or Refined Sugar" Carol Fenster

    "Gluten, Wheat, and Dairy Free Cookbook" Antoinette Savill




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    I am not really sick of hearing and seeing "low carb" every place. I chose to eat what i want. I don't drink, so alcohol advertisements don't bother me either. I guess you kinda get used to them.

    I chose my food for my body, and seem to do fine. Atkins was ok, i read about the diet, and learned alot, right or wrong.

    I still read diet books, but that does not mean they are going to change who i am , and what foods i chose.

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    well i want to loose 7lbs of FATness
    i hear all this great advice..
    i cant get to the gym everyday now
    ive been going to my friends 3-4 mornings for the past week as he has a universal and he has me on a routine for about 1/2 hour each muscle group

    i purchased some workout videos.. bellydancing, lecotte method or something and fawnia's floor moves

    so my plan is to do the workout thing at my friends and each day at least do one video

    so my questionano... what would be very COOL
    is if someone who has dropped 10lbs of FATness
    can you break it down and give me say a menu plan of what you ate
    hearing what people do exactly what they eat in a typical day and when and what they do for excersize will help me

    advice is cool and coming up with my own game plan is "ideal"
    but i think if i saw it written out on paper that would give me something to commit myself to

    like wake up and do this.. and eat this..
    go about your day ..
    then eat this and do this ..

    i know it sounds retarded but i think if something was written down in detail id do it

    i have flabby over my jeans and the backs of my legs are gross .... i know you have to work the body all over

    just write down something to follow for say 3 months and ill do it!! and ill even check in and let people know where im at and if its working

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    Well, I will admit, its annoying to see how people are all over this low carb thing but do nothing about it. Whatever! lol
    I'll eat my bunless burgers, my cheese, and so much more. I am not on the strict version of atkins anymore... I eat more fruits now, and im still losing weight. I have cut out a ton of bread and pasta, but I will occasionally have it, like I did at my aunt's party.

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    Yeah, Lexi, that annoys me more.....people that judge others on how they eat, especially when they are WRONG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily link=board=5;threadid=7284;start=msg83330#msg83330 date=1079027037
    Yeah, Lexi, that annoys me more.....people that judge others on how they eat, especially when they are WRONG.

    LOL Emily I hear ya on that. I have a cousin who always says, "OMG, atkins is so bad for you" Mind you she is like 240lbs, and eats like its going out of style. LOL

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    YES i'm sooo annoyed by this. more low carb versions of foods keep coming out and yet people keep getting fatter and FATTER. losing weight is not brain surgery-- you can eat anything in moderation if you work out. :

    i gained 20 pounds my fresh. year in college and lost it by..... eating less and working out!!! i could have never done it without carbs (energy for working out!!!!)

    and here i am almost 2 years later and i've lost another 10 pounds without even trying.

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    I have to agree that we are seeing everyone especially the high fat/fast food restaraunts jumping on the low carb bandwagon, and I admit it seems really odd to see McD and other places suddenly offering high protein/low carb choices.

    I expect alot of it is just trying to maintain market share, and fend off "your burger made me fat and its all your fault..my lawyer says you owe me millions of dollars" style law suits(what every became of personal responcibilty for choices???) :o

    I am amazed by how many people have an opinion on Atkins without really having the facts, there does seem to be a wealth of mis information about. I was guilty of this myself as I derided the beinifits of this program to my neighbours while they lost about 30 pounds each and kept it off for over a year.

    So I read the book.

    In defence of Atkins let me quote from a section he calls misconceptions.

    He states "IF YOU EAT JUNK FOODS OR OTHER NUTRIENT DEFICIENT CARBOHYDRATE FOODS( white flour, refined sugars etc) INSTEAD OF VEGETABLES AND OTHER NUTRIENT-DENSE FOODS, YOU WILL MISS MOST OF THE BENIFITS I WRITE ABOUT AND YOU CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE FOSTERING LONG-TERM HEALTH." (p.223)

    Good Carbs are supposed to be reintroduced into the diet so that in fact, after the plan is completed yopu have a healthy lifestayle that you can maintain not a fad diet that cause weight loss/gain to yo-yo.

    I suppose my point is that if someone doesnt read the book, then simply trying to go high protein / low carb is foolish at best, carbs arent our enemy but a lifestyle of little exercise and poor diet has lead many North Americans (including myself) to battle with obesity. People cany view "low carbs" as a solution to problem that really reflects a need for a lifestyle change. There is no silver bullet for good health but good diet and reasonable exercise.


    OK I now apologize for heading off on such a tangent, and step off my soapbox. I think I just became one of those people lilac was talking about ooops


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    great info Canuck. I used to think Atkins was terrible until I actually READ it.


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    Atkins was basically on the right track, but people have basically totally misunderstood him. In addition to meat, he promoted low glycemic carbohydrate foods like canteloupe, apples, and berries, as I have also reccommended several times. The Atkins Diet is not eating all the meat and cheese you want, despite popular beilef, and media programming. The Atkins diet is basically elimating starchy foods like potatoes, rice, bread, pasta, cakes, cookies, noodles, popcorn, corn, refined sugar, processed sugar, and wheat from the diet. Foods like low glycemic fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and meat should compromise a large majority of the diet. Following the atkins diet does not justify eating at Subway, Outback Steahouse, Burger King, and Mc Donalds. These foods are garbage. A diet high in vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, and limited meats will satisfy the nutritional requirements of any human on the planet, and keep weight down and strength up. It's really about Whole Foods, foods not created of touched by man. Atkins does NOT mean eating burgers covered with cheese and butter, followed by cheesecake for dessert, and eggnog for a beverage. A good Atkins diet would go something like: water for a beverage, salad, vegetables, and a small serving of fish or meat for an entree, and maybe fresh fruit salad for dessert. As usual, americans have turned a positive message into a total disaster, and Atkins message has been totally destroyed by companies like Subway and Burger King. These companies will promote, at no expense, their poisonous foods as part of the latest health craze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck link=board=5;threadid=7284;start=msg83390#msg83390 date=1079045882
    I expect alot of it is just trying to maintain market share, and fend off "your burger made me fat and its all your fault..my lawyer says you owe me millions of dollars" style law suits
    absolutely. most of the McD's salads have MORE fat than the friggin hamburgers!!

    it doesnt seem that the low carb craze is helping either. i see humungous people all day long.

    and i read in the post the other day that obesity is hot on the heels of smoking as the #1 cause of death. it was called "dying to eat" or something, i'll try & post a link.

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