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    The club lawyers here don't tell girls that if you get a misdemeanor contact, pornographic conduct(or whatever your local LE likes to write) ticket dismissed, but without costs or dismissed and not expunged with costs, when the DA gets ready to shut down another club or sexually oriented business such as a massage parlor or whatever, they can bring your charges back up against you and lump you in with all these other people who have nothing to do with you and more likely than not you will be guilty second time around. Also, you now need a lawyer of your own b/c the club lawyer can't help you b/c he did what he was supposed to and you are now on your own. Most dismissals are done for lack of evidence/technicalities rather than innocence b/c it makes the DAs job easier and keeps the docket flowing.
    You're exactly right about dancers having to "clean up the remaining mess" after accepting help from a club's lawyer. Actually, the most common thing that club lawyers manage to arrange for dancers busted for the first time is the infamous ACD - Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal. This means the dancer is released, but the charge is still on her record and the charge itself is never ruled on by a judge in regard to innocence or guilt. Divyne is absolutely correct that, in the eyes of the law, this is nothing more than a postponement - a postponement which might span 100 years or 24 hours.

    If the same dancer should happen to be involved in another club bust, or even be involved in something unrelated which results in a charge of any kind being made against her, then her records are re-opened. It's entirely possible for the DA to decide to pursue the original charge again as long as that charge has remained in limbo in the criminal court records without ever being resolved.

    In order to clear your record, it is necessary to have the charges 'expunged' - in other words officially erased from the criminal record. This requires a separate court action by an attorney, and a separate order from a judge, with separate legal and court costs. It is only through a charge being expunged, or through an actual court ruling or jury verdict finding you innocent of the charge made against you, that you legally wind up starting with a "clean slate" if you should be busted a second time.

    In fact, if you do wind up being busted again and the first charge against you is still on the books (but with your case having been adjourned indefinitely - ACD), it's worse than Divyne said. Not only will you likely be found guilty of the second charge and wind up paying a big fine or doing some days in the county lockup, but with two charges now on your record it is IMPOSSIBLE for an attorney to get either charge expunged. At this point you are legally considered a "repeat offender" and the two charges will remain on your criminal record forever, available to cops, prospective employers, and vindictive ex-husbands.

    I know quite a few girls that have been charged with prostitution, even though they were just breaking the 4ft law.... with clothes on!! WTF!!
    This is a "reverse loophole" that DA's can use. In general, prostitution is thought of as involving actual sex acts i.e. HJ's BJ's FS in exchange for money. But what many state prostitution laws actually say in regard to a prostitution offense may only require sexual contact in exchange for money.

    In fact, in some states, the person involved in the sexual contact doesn't have to be the same person paying the money. I have seen two dancers on stage together while customers were at the rail. One dancer touched the other dancer's breast while a customer laid down a tip, and boom the two dancers were busted for prostitution ! In some states, contact to sexual areas of the body through clothing is still considered to be sexual contact, thus a grinding lap dance can be grounds for a prostitution charge even though the customer had his pants on the whole time.

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    Default Re:Your Club Getting Raided...

    Occurred last nite, my first nite back in a month. I was kind of expecting it b/c they haven't been in on nite shift in a really long time, but have been giving the day shift girls hell for a minute now and have been popping every other club. Thank goodness I made money when I first got there and didn't go onstage but one time. After that I wasn't really making jack and wasn't doing stage b/c I recently had a medical procedure and was sorta meandering around smiling and keeping my hands/feet/other objects to myself. They will get creative with their charges if they don't meet quota.

    I thought I picked a few people out as shady that seemed to be watching everything everyone else is doing, but I wasn't positive it was vice. I didn't get a ticket last nite, but they got about 15-18 girls out of maybe 28 or so and at least 7 customers too this time. But they were nicer than usual and being surprisingly businesslike instead of sneak asking for numbers or if girls will do parties for cops and what not. May have been because they had a female team member with them last nite. But, like I mentioned you never know when its gonna happen and you're gonna need a lawyer. A few girls went on warrants and a # of the new girls were crying b/c they thought they were going to jail too and they didn't know that contact is technically illegal in this city where every club is a contact club and just didn't know what to do.
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