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    Default my first night officially sucked.

    i felt weird and finally left after about four hours. i didn't have a problem getting (mostly) naked, but my current out-of-shapeness caught up with me and i had to plead exhaustion. also a guy offered me work in a modeling studio as an escort. whee.

    i did most of the wrong things, but i figure cramming them all into one night saves time and loss of income in the future. i stayed talking to one father/son set all night because the other guys were 'playas' or curled up with the skankiest dancers. that's no excuse of course, but at least i didn't fall down or trip over my clothing.

    i'm going back into the breach tomorrow. anything i can do to make it more profitable and easy on me (aside from stretching before work to help with going on stage lots)? it is dead slow, very few guys (maybe 5) until about 11pm, and shifts start around 6-7. if i can figure out how to cope with the 7-11pm part, i should be able to stay and make money without feeling all weird. any help totally appreciated.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    You didn't mention if money was made or lost. Did Mr. Father and Son buy dances? Did you ask them? Did you ask them again?

    Did you suggest Dad buy dance for Son and vice versa?Sometimes they need a little push - they want to be sold. And sometimes they feel embarassed asking for a dance for themselves but not so for their buddy.

    Were they drinking? Did you encourage it? The man who walks in the door is not the same man after he has a few drinks so bottoms up!

    You get what you put up with

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    Our shifts start at 6 and, like your club, we really don't see too much activity until at least 8 [when we open VIP lounge], sometimes 9. What to do? We put girls on stage when we have 2-3 guys in there, before that you've got a bunch of girls on stage practicing pole tricks, stretching and warming up [not just stretching, but make sure your toes, feet, ankles, legs and arms are WARM, worst thing is to be cold, more likely to get injured]. That kills an hour and a half. After that, talk to people. Don't be like the dancers at my club and scowl at the small crowd. Even if they aren't buying dances, sit and talk and sometimes get tipped for conversation, or they'll be induced to tip during your stage set OR they'll buy a dance. It helps to talk to every guy in the room for at least a few minutes, and when it is really slow it doesn't matter if you stay with the one guy for a long time.
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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    i broke even for the night. the club is byob, which made it more awkward, since the guys have their beer or whatever and don't have to buy anyone drinks. basically i was too nice and too nervous all at the same time. the father and son tipped whenever i went on stage and didn't tip anyone else, and basically left once i did, saying they'd return in a week or two once i'd been there a little while and gotten comfortable.

    that could be a fairy story or whatever, but overall during the night a couple of the guys who'd turned my company down in favor of the skanks did have that 'perhaps i should rethink my current choice' look once those girls got really loud and screechy.

    the club draws a diverse crowd skewed towards black/hispanic/india indian guys. i'm black and danced to new order and the cure, which i could tell after my sets disoriented some of the guys there. also, i really obviously stick out due to my precise diction. i don't give off an 'easy make' vibe.

    basically i was already in the middle of a murphy's law day and just couldn't shake that weirded out feeling. also i totally failed to look stripper-ish. when i came in as a customer, the guys spent more time looking at me than the stage. when i was wandering around nervously tonight, more eyes followed me than followed the other girls, some of whom were pretty attractive. if i could figure out how to make that translate into amiable approachableness, i'd be pretty set.

    i guess i am wondering how i can use the slight gloss of 'classy' i have to my advantage in a place that skews kind of lower-class. i'm not ready for upscale yet by any means, so i really need to figure out how to compete in a more downmarket club.

    in the meantime i will try to get into some of the topless places nearby and just see how this club goes over the weekend.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    "i broke even for the night."
    eek, sorry, but it's the first night, so it's okay....chalk it up to a learning experience

    "the club is byob, which made it more awkward, since the guys have their beer or whatever and don't have to buy anyone drinks. "

    You should not care about drinks. You work for money and alcohol distracts you. Plus, who needs the extra calories?

    "the father and son tipped whenever i went on stage and didn't tip anyone else, and basically left once i did, saying they'd return in a week or two once i'd been there a little while and gotten comfortable."

    Basically, they were giving you what they should have been giving if you didn't speak to them at all. You were letting them be entertained for almost nothing. You spoiled them. Don't do that. Who cares if they come back? They were cheap and wasting your time that you could have spent making real cash.

    "that could be a fairy story or whatever, but overall during the night a couple of the guys who'd turned my company down in favor of the skanks did have that 'perhaps i should rethink my current choice' look once those girls got really loud and screechy."

    don't hate on the girls making money! Learn what they are doing right instead.


    "basically i was already in the middle of a murphy's law day and just couldn't shake that weirded out feeling. also i totally failed to look stripper-ish. when i came in as a customer, the guys spent more time looking at me than the stage. when i was wandering around nervously tonight, more eyes followed me than followed the other girls, some of whom were pretty attractive. if i could figure out how to make that translate into amiable approachableness, i'd be pretty set."

    Some days you will be off. It's understandable these will occur more frequently in the beginning. You will start to feel natural there soon enough and the awkwardness will wear off. You should be working the new angle more, though. Guys love the fresh meat!

    "i guess i am wondering how i can use the slight gloss of 'classy' i have to my advantage in a place that skews kind of lower-class. i'm not ready for upscale yet by any means, so i really need to figure out how to compete in a more downmarket club."

    Well, every guys likes something different, but ultimately they want to feel special. Just look at him all lovey-dovey, make him believe you really like him and how you'd love to show him a great time.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    See girl, you thought you wasted your night, but really you took advantage of the slow business and produced at potential regular. Tell them you schedule and tell them to come in early. Also make them feel super special.

    Sounds like you had an ok first day.

    Were the other girls really skanks. Maybe that is your problem, look for the good in them and make friends. Their experience and established customer base can help you tremendously.
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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    Hi I am sorry your first nite didnt' go well. I worked in a club one night several years ago as a waitress. I thought the ladies who worked there were wonderful. They made me feel good about myself even though the other girl who was showing me what to do kind of was a bitch to me. She didn't strip for she thought she was above that and cut me out of customers when I would go to help them. Needless to say she gave me a bad taste so I didn't go back. But I want you and the other ladies on here to know I think they are wonderful. Everyone I met that stripped there wanted me to work to but I have always felt too uncomfortable in my body for it.
    Go back and you will do fantastic. Smile and just enjoy the music and it will show. take care...

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    Hi Miabella - Congrats on your first night! Don't worry, it takes a little while to get used to. Go in early and just take your time getting up to speed -- observing, talking to guys & practicing asking for lapdances. Then by the time 11 rolls around, you'll be a part of the flow.

    As long as you're wearing actual stripper-wear, I don't think being a classy individual is a problem. The guys with a lot of money tend to like that. Use your smart brain to be witty, silly, sexy and charming. And throw in some confidence.

    Not that I advise drinking, but when I first started dancing this one dancer got really mad at me for being shy about asking for dances. She said, "Drink a shot of tequilla if you have to, but ALWAYS ask for a dance!!" Don't let too many songs go by. ASK.

    Also, it sounds like you're paying too much attention to the other girls. The ones that make the most concentrate on and compete with themselves. You have to find your OWN way. GOOD LUCK!

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    At least you broke even.. look at it that way.. you've got some "bugs" to work out it sounds like.

    What I suggest to you, is to follow alot of what Emily stated in her post. She hit a lot of things right on the money.

    First rule: Don't spend more than 15 minutes with a customer, if they aren't going to buy a dance, then politely excuse yourself . I use the "Well, guys, its been nice chatting with you, but I need to get back to work" Its a nice polite way of saying, "if you want me to talk to you, you're either going to have to buy a dance or pay me for my conversation time". A lot of times, men have offered me to sit down and have paid me for an hours worth of conversation.

    Secondly: Don't work for free, just like Emily said in her post, don't spoil them, they were tipping you as they should be, but they really should have bought some dances from you. Guys love newbies in a club, they want to check them out, see what they are like, so you should have a good month of getting used to what works for you.

    You mentioned trying to fiuse a bit of class, do something DIFFERENT than anyone else. Whether its making an attempt to say hello to every man who walks in the door and introduce yourself (they will appreciate it and you will in turn be remembered when it comes to dance time), keep yourself up beat, and if the girls in your club are less than classy, than just keep to yourself, take mental notes on what they might be doing. Years ago when I started, I used to sit two seats down from a girl who was talking to a customer just so I could hear what she was saying, how she would break the ice, etc... don't copy, but just some ideas.

    I think someone also suggested not to pay attention to the other girls, and they are right: Do your OWN thing. You will be noticed more for your originality.

    First nights are hard, but they do get easier as time goes on.

    Hang in there and you've come to the right place (SW) for all the advice a dancer could ever need.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    You're in Houston, right? Those nude clubs there just aren't popular except on weekends.

    Even in the big higher end clubs there like St. James or Tresaures all of us have nights where we break even or go a little in the hole. Don't feel bad. Any dancer that tells you otherwise is lying.

    Houston is kinda tough because when you make money there most of it comes from one or two guys who spend $100-$200+. When you don't have the type of clientele who is willing or able to spend that much on one dancer, the night is bad.

    Hang in there. Don't let the guys brush you off. Tell them I want to dance for you now and grab their hand and lead them into a private area. Once you do one song for them tell them,"You want me to keep going don't you," in a soft seductive voice while still erotically dancing for them.

    You will have to give a good contact dance in Houston but don't give them any sex.

    Stay positive. You'll have some positive nights soon. Expect some gas money nights followed by some $200-$500 ones.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    ok, your post bothers me.

    i cannot stress the fact that it is NOT classy to talk about other dancers no matter who or what they do.

    You bring up the fact that you have class and its harder in a lower class club.
    this sounds a little snobbish. If it is true (and many times it is) its not good or CLASSY to say.

    Be happy, smile and dont be judgemental. Your night will be better that way.

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    If you have class. Work in a classy club. More money. I started at the best club in my city. Yeah, I was spoiled because of that. So when it came time for me to move on to another club it took some adjusting. I finnally found a great club. It's now the best since all of the girls I worked with at the old club came to the new club. It's just like a big family. We've known each other for years so there are few problems. We are a money making team. Don't pay attention to others. YOU ARE THERE TO MAKE MONEY NOT FRIENDS! I can't stress this point enough. Plus don't give guys the time of day who claim to be model agents, photographers,etc. Just wasting your time with bull shit. Be polite and move on.
    Smoochies...

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    Default Re:my first night officially sucked.

    asingledancer, you're right, just since posting this a couple weeks back, i've had time to realize i was treating the whole thing like an extended visit to a normal nightclub, at least by focusing on the other girls at all and expecting guys to just give me stuff on account of me wearing very little. overall, i'm glad i had that night-- it assures i won't do any of the wrong things ever again.

    weirdly, just allowing myself a night to totally screw up has made me feel totally different and at least a little more assertive, though perhaps not enough. i went to another club as a customer this past weekend and the response to me potentially dancing there was a lot more concrete instead of a bunch of maybes. unfortunately i didn't collect the name of the manager who seemed eager to add me to the roster and am not sure what to do next. but i'm posting more about that in another topic, because i'd really like to work at this other club.

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    so glad to hear you are doing better!! Keep your head up and APROACH EVERY potential customer with a smile and a friendly attitude. Compliment the women who are on stage to the men you are sitting with. Good word gets around. AND if it doesnt, the men you are talking to will find it endearing.

    if you would like to work at the club that you visited---- call the front and ask what manager was working the night you went in. Ask when he will be there again, and call him then. Tell him you loved the atmosphere and that you would like to work at his club and when you can possibly audition!! best of luck

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