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    ::) Hey girls!
    I have been dancing for almost a year, but problem is that i never made a regular costumer for myself. All the girls i work with have regualrs, they come see them, bring gifts and lot of cash. But i always feel like i am left out.... i still make enough $$$, but, being unloved and feeling invisible is not really cool. Sometimes i want to stop dancing, but can't really affort it...ya know..
    I am in the good shape, very flexible and dance well and they just say that i am gorgeous, but go back to dancers they prefer.
    Any tricks to get them pay attention to me too? And stay there for me?

    Thank you so much!
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    You seem nice...maybe you should flirt more or something. Guys like that.

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    Orchid, don't feel badly about not having cultivated "regulars". I also don't bother making efforts along these lines. Occasionally, fate will bring you together with a customer who just clicks with you - your personality, your appearance, whatever. But to be honest, many customers who wind up becoming "regulars" do so for less cosmic reasons.

    I don't mean to slam anybody, but over the years I have seen many dancers build a base of "regulars" based on providing them high mileage private dances. There's nothing inherently bad about this I guess, other than it creates an "unlevel playing field" among dancers in the same club and that it could expose other dancers in the club to the risk of a bust.

    Also, I have seen dancers use "deceptive business practices" to bulid a base of regulars, i.e. leading them to believe that the customer in question is "special" in some way, such that if he keeps spending enough money over a long enough period that he might become "more" to the dancer than just a customer. I have heard of many incidents where such regulars finally get frustrated with the "deceptive business practices" and attempt to collect on the implied promises which the dancer never intended to keep in the first place, leading to some very nasty and dangerous situations.

    Personally, I'm happy without the "regular income" provided by "regular customers" because I'm not into high mileage and I definitely don't need any more complexity in my business or private life than already exists. In fact, if I do happen to meet a customer who takes a 'cosmic' liking to me, I still make it a point not to spend more than 25% of my time with him and not to take more than 25% of my night's earnings from him. I do this specifically to quell any mistaken impressions on this customer's part before they can take root.

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    Thanks Melonie!
    Another thing is that i am married and keep my ring on. Mybe you are right about being happy without "regular income" seems safer. Really. I know i am pretty though!
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    The regulars that i have are all due to the cosmic fate Melonie talked about. I was in the right place at the right time with the right attitude and we just clicked. You don't expect it and I'm pretty sure there's so sure-fire way to "make" a customer into a regular. Either he has that kind of time and money available or he doesn't. Getting one, IME, is a simple matter of talking to the right guy and having a good time with him, giving good dances and then him deciding that he would like to do this again. And when he does, he has an equally good time, so he comes in again. Etc etc ad nauseum... boom, you have a regular.

    It's nice to see a familiar face and know that you have an automatic $200, but don't count "regular" money as regular income. All regulars have a shelf life; sure, that shelf life may be five years, but it's more likely a few months (unless the guy's really rolling in dough). Don't encourage a potential regular unless you like him as much as you like his money; the 'click" has to be two ways, or you'll be bored silly spending time with this person. And he'll know if you're bored silly. Best of all, don't maintain a regular unless he is worth the time and hassle. Regulars do take you off the floor and away from other customers. Regulars do take some maintanence (ie; you have to remember what they say and you usually need to chat with them) and that's often a bit more hassle than approaching some schlub just in off the bus. Just make sure that the extra down time and extra hassle are worth the money.

    Some dancers, like Melonie, discourage the whole "regulars" thing so don't consider yourself a fluke for not having any. A good hustler can get by fine without them.
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    Lilith,
    I also wish I had more expirience with men. I don't know what i would talk about...what exactly they want to know? There is no personal informatin exchaned is allowed in our club, it is not hustling club either, you can't just sit around and talk to one guy. As i said, even when i try, they just give me a dollar and then i see them buy dance with another dancer. Sucks!
    I don't know... I need some more help with that...
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    Honestly, if you are still making good money, then be glad that you don't have regulars. they can be such a pain in the ass! Though, it is nice when the cash isn't flowing to have that to be able to count on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchid777 link=board=27;threadid=7598;start=msg87001#msg8700 1 date=1079961229
    Lilith,
    I also wish I had more expirience with men. I don't know what i would talk about...what exactly they want to know?
    Sometimes, being considered a "Regular" isn't all it's cracked up to be either. Oft times it curtails the opportunity to meet new or recent hirees that come into a SC. The only "real" experience that one needs is to simply "Be There" You can bet that Pavlov's dog was male. Girls that have regulars tend to protect themselves against the other girls from getting too close to that regular. I am willing to bet that there is a guy at your club that would love to have YOU as their ATF rather than the one they have now. I can't wait till I read a post of yours, complaining about having too many regulars. But that is the nature of the beast. Put me in coach, I'm ready to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiD link=board=27;threadid=7598;start=msg87018#msg8701 8 date=1079966813
    Honestly, if you are still making good money, then be glad that you don't have regulars. they can be such a pain in the ass! Though, it is nice when the cash isn't flowing to have that to be able to count on.
    Ouch! Not all of us regulars are a pain in the ass. Some of us are confident enough in our relationships that we often don't mind. I am a regular to a dancer and when I come to her club (I believe in loyalty so I only go to her club really), I wait for her since I know she will come over to me when she can. I don't interrupt her. I even go out of my way to get her to give dances to other guys so I don't feel like I'm holding her back. I'll point out other guys that are eyeing her, and then then send her their way when opportunity arises. It backfires sometimes. She'll go over and get shot down. Now that even pisses me off. So, I buy that dance for her to make it up to her. I think of myself as her safety net sometimes. I don't like hearing about how she had a really bad night when I wasn't there. Is it a line...who knows, but I think she's genuine.
    On the flip side, I have heard lots of stories from several dancers at my regular girl's club. One dancer came over to me to get some "protection" from a guy who is almost stalking her. We chatted and I kept her occupied as best I could to keep this guy away. If he wanted to come over, I doubt I could have stopped him anyway...he was HUGE! I know how to handle myself, but I mean, this guy was HUGE! Ok, off topic.

    Regulars can be tough, but to lump us all in together...well, that's not fair.
    On the flip side, having a regular girl is tough on us too. At least I feel like I'm "cheating" if I get a dance with another girl when my regular dancer is there. Plus, knowing the girls' have expectations of money is tough sometimes.

    It's a two way street like all relationships.
    It's all mind over matter. If I don't mind, it doesn't matter.

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    I've heard of the girls talking about having regulars at my last club...and they DID get a lot of money...but I know they were doing "happy endings" and going the "extra mile". I was not willing to do that. I am at a new club, now...and I just started last night. The potential is there for regulars, but I think that it really depends on how well you click with your customers. You might be beautiful and a great dancer, but if your personality doesn't click with them, they will just move on. That's not to say that you should try to "change" to make regulars, but do pay attention to the "cosmic attraction". Everyone wants a dancer that they feel that they can be serious with, have fun with, and have a fantasy with. If you can fulfill all of that, then chances are that you can get a regular...without high mileage.

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    Also.. there are different types of regulars.. well for my club at least.

    There are the type that are exclusive to one dancer only and might have another dancer (as backup if thier ATF is not present).

    There is another type which have a group of girls that they will have dances with... this group can be from 3-5 girls. Usually with this group the regular will have their favourites however most of the time the regular will rotate around .... dance from one girl one week, another the next week, 3 of the group one week, etc.

    Lastly, the club regular who doesn't really have a regular girl or group of girls but is rather more of a regular at the club and will buy a dance from whoever takes his fancy whenever he is in...

    Some club environments you do not need regulars to do well... whereas other environments it is a case of having regulars is the only way to make $$$.

    As for the 'maintenance' of regulars... this is true. I do 'extra special' dances for them by pushing the envelope on the rules or something that shows them that they are more special. Some are rather 'high maintenance' whereas others are not...

    I've been at my club for over a year now and there is only ONE guy who has stayed with me from beginning to end. He isn't as regular as he used to be (he has cut back) however I'm still his main girl. Most of my other regulars have had a shelf life... something either happens in their life that requires them to stop coming or they become a RIL and fail to realise that it is my job to make them feel like a king.




    PS When I say 'extra special'... it just means that I have one routine for my regulars which involves a little more contact compared to my usual routine which involves standard contact.


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    As a customer who has been a regular on several occasions, the draw for me is personality. I like a girl who is friendly, cheerful, courteous and interesting. Courtesy is a must for me. Cute helps too - I'm a sucker for a big smile. I also like a girl who is fairly open and willing to talk - that's part of being friendly. And a wedding ring doesn't turn me off at all - I always assume that a girl is taken, so am I. Who cares, that's not why we're there. I treat a dancer pretty much the same way she treats me. If she treats me as just another customer, I will treat her as just another dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FONDL link=board=27;threadid=7598;start=msg88127#msg8812 7 date=1080227736
    If she treats me as just another customer, I will treat her as just another dancer.
    Well said.
    It's all mind over matter. If I don't mind, it doesn't matter.

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    Just a couple of regulars at a time that you keep close contact with can prove very profitable. when I know I will be having a slow night cause of a holiday or something I plan ahead and invite a big spender over e-mail ahead of time or make a phone call on a slow night.

    Regulars don't necessarily mean men who come in and spend 500 dollars every week and dominate your time. It can also be used to describe men who buy dances from you because you are a farmiliar face or because they have heard about you from other sources.

    I know you are probably very devoted to your husband, but i don't think you need your ring to prove that while working. That doesn't mean you have to lie to anyone, but the ring will stomp on some fantasies and cost you money. Plus your ring will constantly remind many of them that they two are married and shouldn't be playing around with another married woman. Not to mention it could get damaged or lost if you have lotion on your hand or have been drinking. Just a few thoughts.
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    Thank you Mother daisy!
    One more thing, they do not allow any contacts in our club like that. No e-mails exchanges, no phone calls.
    But i will think about the ring. I have been. Maybe they do feel bad and that is why they just tip me well on stage and do not buy lap dances, because it is uncomfortable.
    Any more opinions?
    Thank you everybody!!!
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    A lot of points brought up are very good, especially that about different types of regulars.

    As for me, I try not to think of them as regulars. I think of them as friends. I like to see them, and I go tell them hello and chat with them for at least a minute. If they want a dance, that's great, and if they don't, I'm just glad they're there supporting the club. Most of our club regulars are good guys, and friends. I have a regular or two who comes in only for me, and that's sweet, but if they want other girls, hey, we're all in this together.

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    I'll bet some of the dancers in your place maintain phone or email contact with their regulars. The place I used to hang prohibited girls from seeing customers outside the club but lots of them did anyway. I often met my ATF for lunch or dinner before or after her shift and she called me regularly to tell me her schedule for the upcoming week. Most dancers aren't big on following rules.
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    I have a few customers and a few guys who think of themselves as my customers. The guys I'm referring to that think they're my customers lucked out one slow night when there was no business and I didn't mind sitting and drinking a little longer than normal. So many of them come back on busy nights, and the little money I get from them isn't worth my time- they usually want to sit for a while. I'll say hi to them, but if I'm busy, I sometimes don't have time to talk to them and they get all mad and offended. I feel like saying- if you give me the $200 I'd otherwise make this hour, then I'll sit with you- but I know they don't have the money.

    As for my "regulars," they rotate- none have really lasted very long because I don't believe in contact outside the club. I have had nights where all of them would be in at once and get annoyed when I don't have the chance to get to them--- I've lost a really good customer because of this, but the other customer I was with that night is just as good.

    There are some girls in my club who go out with their customers on a regular basis- whether to dinner, shopping, a hotel room... and they make more money than I've ever dreamed of. However, I don't want to do this, so I don't feel too bad.

    Basically, although I like seeing a familiar face, I don't always like to get tied down by customers. Those who are customers did so on their own recognicance.

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    Getting back to your original question of how to get some regulars, If you meet a customer who you'd like to see again, tell him so. Tell him what shifts you usually work and invite him to come back to see you again. In most cases he'll come back. Make him feel special when he does and you'll have yourself a regular.
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