I think those are fair rules as well.





I think those are fair rules as well.
Damnit! I just had this long post prepared and accidentally erased it! Anyways.
After reading the most recent post, as in the ones posted this year, it has become apparent to me that ragardless of whether we think we are no, low, medium, or high contact dancers that we all have different definitions of what each of those is. I have always considered myself a no contact dancer but now it appears that other people might disagree.
So here's how I define being a no contact dancer. During a lap dance only the first few seconds of the song are spent standing up. That's when I am dancing in front of him and taking my clothes off. The rest of the dance is spent on his lap whether I have my front or back to him. (Although sometimes I stand on the couch over him- they seem to like that because they can look all the way up at you and your stuff is like right there. Of course, I'm only a topless dance so my stuff stays covered.) He is not allowed to tough me, lick me, suck, bite, or nibble me at all. In return, I do not lick, bite, nibble, or suck him at all and I do not touch him anywhere "where the sun don't shine". I grind the whole lap dance in many many many different positions. Oh yeah, and I totally put my boobs in their face. Usually i sit up on my knees and would touch their nose to my tummy and then slide down so that it ran right between my boobs. For me, all this was normal and I have always thought of it as no contact dancing.
Of course the grinding thing is probably where many people would disagree. But as I said earlier, that's just what I was introduced to when I started dancing. It was the first club I worked at and every one grinded so I figured that was how it was done and I have always done it that way. That's why I didn't see it as actual contact.
(And contrary to what many non-grinders think, they do not cum in like 2 songs. As a matter of fact, in two years at the GC (Gold Club) I think I only ever had one guy cum and the dance ended there. Of course guys get hard but isn't that expected when a girl they find attractive is rubbing her mostly naked body on them? I've done champagne rooms upwards of a half hour and they don't cum.)
So, how do you all define your standards? What do you think of mine? After reading that do most of you consider that no contact still? Or would you call it something else? And when you say you are a no contact or low, or medium, or high contact dancer, what does that mean to you? Let's hear it ladies.![]()





^^I think that's one way/low contact (my preferred sort of dancing, but hard to come by here!). No contact would, to me, be total air, no grinding.
So would you all think it is safe to say that, for most of us, grinding is considered when trying to decide what type of dancing you do? I feel so silly. After all this time I just never considered it contact.





Wow! This is all news to me! Lol. I've been so naive. All this time I thought I was the most straight edge a girl could get. Well it's nice to hear other people's opinions. And I'm now thrilled to say I'm a one way low-medium contact dancer. Lol.


Its all about attitude, it takes time in my experience to get the customer to feel privleged/worthy to enjoy oyur company without offering extras, it is attained through a mixture of confidence and mystique, every dancer will demonstrate this uniquely according to their style. You basically need convince your client that you are worth more than the X-tra girls offer, it's really not that complicated if your in a club full of "extra" girls , it is better if you are in a club full of extra girls, because in that case you can pretend to be more careful and selective, which will draw the guys with the money and the interest to you , most of the time, and you don't need to worry about being more competitive with the other girls who are more skilled and don't put out as much.



i really dont understand why you consider this no contact. no contact is air dances, that is why it is called no contact, emphasis on the word "NO".the boobs in the face and the grinding take it up a lot, and dont you get licked a lot when you do the boobs in the face thing? im always afraid of doing that because whenever my boobs get too close to a guys face he starts to do the sucking mouth position. so gross. what you are doing is medium-full
what you consider low contact is probably full contact
and what you consider medium contact is probably extras
and i dont even wanna know what you consider full/high contact to be.








You can do boobs in the face without coming near the mouth. She already said guys aren't allowed to lick her.And if the guy isn't touching you, that's pretty low contact compared with half the country. You'd really benefit from being a tad less negative towards the other girls. We can't all work in airdance land, even if we'd like to. Full contact means two way contact, generally everywhere but the kitty.





^^Seriously (to msonyxorb), you let guys GROPE your tits and ass as work. You know that saying about glass houses? Geez.













It's not. But somehow she's holier than thou because she doesn't grind.![]()



when did i say i work in airdance land?i work in LA, its super high contact here....
and i also dont encourage anyone to touch my boobs or ass and now i even tell them to stop, when they try it, i only allowed them to do it before because every other fucking girl in the lap dance area would be allowing it too. i wish i fucking lived in airdance land.



i also never said in this thread that i dont grind but lets think about this for a second
i see several thread where girls say the guys have cum from their grinding. i have never seen a thread where girls say a guy has cummed from touching their tits...hmm which one is more like prostitution??
not saying its not necessary to make money, im just saying that its not hard to see why i was hesistant to grind when i first started.
and honestly i think if all girls did air dances we would all be making a lot less money doing a lot less work. the only reason why some of us feel we have to grind and allow touching is because no guy is gonna buy a dance from an airdance girl in a club full of high contact dancers.





^The prob is you're trying to tell a girl who grinds but doesn't allow touching that she's 'full contact' and implying that her standards are messed up. Some of us grind, some don't, etc. Settle down.



the way she is defining things IS messed up. im not saying shes messed up for doing any of it, but i hate that she thinks what she does is NO contact. like seriously how fucked up is our society that boobs in the face, full on sitting and touching the guy and grinding is considered the LOWEST contact?





i find it odd the threads your making the most posts on right now are the bunny ranch, the escorting thread and this one. do you have a serious aversion to contact and the people that do so much that youll argue it on 3 forums at once? im confused.
in my best forrest gump voice "and thats all i have to say about thaaat."
I feel molested at work. It is a very high contact level where I work..
I need to be drunk to work..
I don't chase money. Money chases me.





i worked in a high contact environment. you don't need to be drunk to work. i found it optimal to drink moderately at work (3-5 drinks per shift), but i did not drink at work the majority of the time, and my money was quite all right (above the extras girls most nights) as a rule. i didn't focus on providing competitive contact-- i focused on dancing for people i liked to be around, who were happy with less contact because it was clear i liked being around them.
i'd hope it is the same in canada, where the money is worth slightly more, at least.
No touching. No grinding if possible. I started at a grinding club, and while I got used to it it never stopped bothering me. I don't like customers touching me (although I won't freak out if they pat my upper back a bit and I've danced for them before, knowing that that's where their hand will stay), but I prefer to not be touched.



I understand that it's all about boundaries, but my issue is the guys that just keep pushing past them.
Overall, I don't like to be touched. I don't really like sex all that much and I don't even like hugs. Just... ick... If I'm not in control, fuck off. My limits for VIP are mostly vag/crack/tits are really hands-off. And I ended up dancing for the asshole who wouldn't respect my limits and who i couldn't intimidate. He kept pressuring me to lick my asshole (breaking a hands-down, no fluid-exchange rule - some things in life have to be certain) After being dry-humped and being told to pose in certain ways, I think he came.
Actually, I'm pretty goddamn sure he came. He was much less vigorous of a grabber, he wasn't trying to rub his dick against my asshole, and he had a BIG fucking wet spot in a rather conspicuous place. Which he happened to rub against me for a full 20 mins. after the bouncer failed to do his job and duck in.
And it also necessitated a female communal soap reunion. Disinfectant and baby wipes helped; so did the shower after. I just thank my lucky stars that it's OK if I tell my dude about it. And even cooler (although it makes me feel icky) that drunk, strong asshole paid twice the normal rate.
Porr bouncers. You reap what you sow.
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