Do you guys think he is guilty or innocent? I think he is guilty I was on his side the first time but I was a kid then and loved his music. Now I think he really did it.![]()



Do you guys think he is guilty or innocent? I think he is guilty I was on his side the first time but I was a kid then and loved his music. Now I think he really did it.![]()





He's guilty, IMHO. With lovely women like the ones posting here, and he goes for little kids. Yuck!
sooooooooooooooooooooooooo innocent.
damn that kids mom is a fucking nutter, she is using her kids condition to make moremoney. i think itssick. shes a bitch, her sons a liar, hes old enough to know right from wrong, and if he all that stuff was REALLY going on, the kid would have come forward straight away. not let it go on for ages.
i reckon after that interview the kid got shit from his mates, felt stink, and his mom thoguht shes make a buck off it.
as for his first case about 9 years ago....what ever it was, i was too young to know the details.
i love micheals music so yeah imbiast anyways.





Did anyone see his documentary last year? He has kids over all the time to spend the night with him in his bed. He calls them his friends. He has built Neverland for kids that come over to play. Do adult men do these kinds of things who don't molest children? I think not...
Did he commit this particular crime? Maybe. If he didn't molest this child, it certainly does not mean that he hasn't molested others.
I think the only thing he's guilty of is being incredibly weird. He's a child inside really, I think. I don't believe he molested this child, or the one back in 1993. He had even stated that ever since that accusation back in '93, he's had extra staff with him at all times, to protect him from future claims of molestation.
I think this woman saw dollar signs. She went to a civil lawyer first, which pretty much proves her motives. This child is sick and Michael has a big heart and helped them out a lot.
Now Michael has done a lot of off-the-wall things, especially in recent years, with the baby-dangling incident, and taking that same child out of the delivery room just moments after birth with the placenta still attached and wisking it away from the hospital, but he's just very strange. Nothing he has done is explainable really.
True, he has children sleep over, sometimes in his bedroom, that's another unexplainable thing. They've also stated that they've found countless home videos. Well, no shit, he's taped EVERYTHING since he was a child. They've even said that nothing incriminating can be found on ANY of those tapes.
I think he's very weird, yes. Do I think he's a molestor? Not a chance in hell. I've always been a fan of his, and always will be. He's talented, kind-hearted, and he's done countless things for children. I will not believe that he's done anything TO children until they show me some die-hard evidence. He's an easy target, because of his weirdness factor, so people are trying to cash-in on that.


To quote Deputy Barney Fife, "He's a nut"
I think that the most important factor here is this...these parents are allowing their children to spend the night in this man's bed. What is their problems? I would not allow that with my kids.
Do I think that he molested any of those kids? Hard to say...once money and fame come into play, the truth often gets very obscured. Sad.
have to agreee with rhiannon.
he is weird BY ANYONES standards, but hes just over caring.
its not like hes a nutter hurting these kids with knifes or anyhting freakish like that. he just never grew up, has some weird fasination with anythign youthful. he has his own amusment park for ffs. hes obsessed with youthfulness....look at plastic surgery , sure he "claims" hes got a disease, we know he doesnt, lol as for the looking like a white guy instead of a "black guy" who he is, hes said before somethign about wanting to be NOTHING like his father, he felt he loooked too much like him, his father is known for phsycal violence toward jackspon family.....although the rest of the family seems pretty normal aka randy...anyways....
hes justa guy that loves too much, cares too much ( you can easily see that in his music, he was best mate swith princess diana and mother tesesa.....people trying to change the world for the better) nothign wrong with that.
id rather more people like him around. more love, no violence, and ok hes a bit weird, but that doeant mean hes done anythign legallly wrong with these kids.
heaps of parents sleep with their kids in their bed/rooms, micheal is just a lil different.....society doesnt accept difference anyways....
i duno. cant say if hes guilty. i wasnt there.
this thing is plain confusing ...i dunno what to believe anymore![]()
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pretty much think he's guilty- but you never know- My question would be, why are there no little girls ever at neverland? You never see that on tape, or is it ever talked about. There aren't any stories about him saving or helping out little girls. what's up with that?
Impossible is a word for those with no determination
even though i'm not disagreeing with you but please remember that you only see what the media wants you to see ....
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Yeah I am very confused about this. I had always been a fan, but think that sometimes people do things to screw others over especially when money is involved.
I agree with edouble... why isnt there any accusation about him molesting little girls?
I dont know what to think anymore, but what DOES piss me off is the retarded parents who let their kids sleep over. Shit, after the incident in 93, I wouldnt let my kid sleep over, but because they knew it was already in the media, they probably tried to take advantage as well. THIS is whats annoying. Soooo, if he did do it, they basically were careless assholes who put their kids in danger all for money.
MJ has made some great music in his lifetime, no doubt. but the dude is fucking wacky! he definitely has a few screws loose. i have no clue if he did it or not...but i tend to lean towards GUILTY! in his defense, though, anyone who grows up so clearly in the public eye is going to turn out a little "off center".



Here Here! I agree that he is a little messed up, but also believes that he loves children. I don't think he should make his kids wear masks everywhere they go, but in his mind he is protecting them. Everyone parents differently. His methods might be a little more outlandish than most, but maybe not everyone would agree with the way each of us raise our children, either. (And, yes, I am a mother.)Originally Posted by Rhiannon link=board=1;threadid=7929;start=msg91581#msg91581 date=1081008981
that's very true... you never hear about him helping out little girls... very strange...Originally Posted by edouble link=board=1;threadid=7929;start=msg91732#msg91732 date=1081043211
i also think he's guilty...
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....i did not design this game...i did not name the stakes...i just happen to like apples...and i am not afraid of snakes... -Ani Difranco
spose its true about the girls thing....never thought about that bit..... still....dunno aye...teres something weird about that kids mother. she seems like a golddigger...setting it all up like that, and then playing n the "he even has cancer" sop story.
micheal doesnt seem like the kind of person ho would want to HURT anyone. hes all for peace and loving.. i just dont get it .
hha and he is aa cackpot. lol but maybe hes just a few decades ahead of the rest of ius? lol maybe we are the weird ones? ha nahhhhhh
Just because he prefers to help little boys doesn't make him a child molester. Maybe it's just because he can understand what they are going through. And on top of that, people (and kids) tend to be more comfortable in same gender relationships. Also, a child molestor is equally as likely to like boys as he is girls. More than anything, it's not a homosexual tendency but a "prepubescent" tendency. I do a LOT of work with kids and I'm always a little uneasy and stand-offish around boys--they just don't react like girls do.
That aside, I don't think he's guilty. Has anyone heard much about this kid's parents? They're psycho! At the time he made the allegations, they were going through a VERY bitter divorce. Most psychiatrists will tell you that children will very often make up stories, illnesses, etc to get some much needed attention. Has anyone thought about this? Even though I think the parents are wacko, it may not even be them. I think it's a cry for help from the kid. He needs his parents to pay attention to him and this is the only way he know how to do that. Plus, of course, once he said it, the mother went running. Who wouldn't when there's that much money involved?!
The whole situation SUCKS!
"You did then what you knew how to do; when you knew better, you did better" ~Maya Angelou
I agree, SCGirl. But personally, I don't believe the child is behind this. He may have mentioned something to her, about sleeping in Michael's bedroom, but I believe that she created all this extra crap in her own warped mind. She originally was going to seek civil action against him, which is a sure sign that she was seeking money. This is very similar to the case back in '93 against him. Now, I'm sorry, but if someone molested my children, NO amount of money would compensate for the loss of their innocence. His head on a platter would better satisfy me. The family in '93 took the settlement, which pretty much says what they were after all along.Originally Posted by SCGirl link=board=1;threadid=7929;start=msg92085#msg92085 date=1081133066
As for Michael's preference of little boys, I think he sees them as his equals, because basically, he never grew up. At least, he didn't grow up properly. He didn't have much guidance from his parents, except to push him and his siblings into the spotlight. But, his preference to male children does not mean that he only helps them. Michael has helped whole countries, which include men, women, and both male and female children. His generosity knows no bounds. In my opinion, we need more individuals such as Michael, who are so willing to help others when the only gain they receive is to see the families thrive.
As for the recent raids on Neverland, and his parents' home, I can't understand why they seized all of his personal items, such as the skin bleaching cream. How is that vital to their case against him? I don't understand that. It's irrelevant, and just plain ridiculous.





Guilty.
Look at the imagery in his early videos. Read his sister's autobiography.
Lena
His sister's autobiography is pretty much factitious. She's pretty much said that herself, now that she's hopping to his aid. LaToya has always had issues with her siblings and parents, so I tend to not believe a damn thing she says. She's nuttier than Michael, if that's possible.
As for his early videos, I see nothing incriminating, and I've watched them all through the years. Nothing proves the accusations.
It all comes down to people believing what they choose to believe in cases such as these. He is a major celebrity, and with any celebrity, there are always people trying to knock them down. The media plays a big part.
Like I said before, there's no denying he's weird. As for this latest accusation, I'll sit and watch as the family sues him for money. Ultimately, that's what will happen. He'll be proven innocent in the court case, and they'll take out a civil suit on him.
Oh, yes, Rhi, I agree...it's not just the kid. It's just that I wouldn't be surprised if he brought it up and then the mom went WAAAYYY over the top with it. She's totally after the money!
"You did then what you knew how to do; when you knew better, you did better" ~Maya Angelou
Originally Posted by CA$H link=board=1;threadid=7929;start=msg91738#msg91738 date=1081045492
you are soo right , thats why I won't make judgements until the tiral ends.
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