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    I work in a nude club in Columbus, Ohio. The last three weeks have been horrible! There are no customers! I work dayshift because there is a waiting list for nighshift at the club I work at. We had 6 - a whole 6 - customers on a Saturday dayshift! We had 6 dancers. I made $12. So, I went to another nude club and worked a Friday night. We only had 19 customers. I only made $37. Since both clubs are BYOB, most customers just sit and drink their beers, not buy shows, and maybe tip. I thought about going to a topless club to work; however, they do allow contact with customers which is illegal. So, I am torn between no money or working illegally. I am not against contact with customers IF it was legal. What's going on? Anyone else having this problem?
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    Default Re:No customers lately...what's going on?

    The past couple of weeks have been bad here in Va. We always get slow this time of year, the weather gets warmer, spring break and everyones with their kids and tax time. It will eventually pick up around here but it sucks waiting for it!

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    Its called tax season, and it will be over in a month. All clubs do bad during tax season, even the ones that are tourist driven like the ones in Las Vegas.

    This is a good time of the year to plan vacations from dancing.

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    Like everyone else said it is ALWAYS slow this time of the year. When it starts to get nice out, the men like to play golf for an example. Where do you work at? I am orginally from Ohio. Do you work at Pure Platium? I know a few people who work there.

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    Are you old enough to work topless? The full bar clubs have much more volume.

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    I work at Private Dancer. And I worked my nights at Club Secrets (Major Dive). And I am plenty old enough to work at a topless club.....I am 32. I stopped dancing in 2000. I came back in January of this year due to 5 layoffs. I have never experienced a $12 day until now. Slow season when I danced was $100/shift instead of $400-500. Not $12 in 8 hours. This is horrible. I would make more money working at McDonalds than getting naked. I know there are ups and downs in this business. I have danced for 12 years. I have never worked for this low of money. Has it been this bad since 9/11?
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    Oh, I forgot to add.......When you say more volume - did you mean more customers or more SPENDING customers? I have noticed that since our club has gone BYOB, we have more volume - not more spenders.
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    Didn't Columbus pass stricter strip club ordinances recently? And isn't the unemployment rate there one of the highest in the nation? As far as illegal contact, the contact almost everywhere I've worked is illegal if vice comes in. That is the chance we take nowadays with all these new laws designed to put clubs out of business and make all of us criminals if we are caught violating them.

    Business is slower everywhere in my experience. A big problem I notice and I have danced in 20 states is a LOT less target customers coming in the clubs, those aged 35-65 who come in ALONE and are more professional,and many more twenty somthing guys in groups and lots of young female customers and these types don't spend like the older guys.

    BYOB bars in my experience also don't do the volume of business and don't attract the older guys as much as full bar clubs. They attract more young guys in groups and tend to only be busy on weekends. The young guys are not very likely to want the company of a dancer, buy her a drink, and spend $100+ on her on dances. And without those kinds of customers a $12 day after tipout is entirely possible. I've had them as well as LOT'S of other dancers.

    Just my experience and every town may vary. I hope you can find a place where you can do better. Those juice and BYOB bars just don't get the same clientele.

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    I feel for you Catfly. Is that the only kind of club you can work in? Would you be more willing to drive to a location that has alot of buisnessmen and travelers? Perhaps a sports statium nearby? Location counts for a lot. I have had slow nights latley but that is absoultly ridicluous!

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    It's still busy here, BUT this Saturday night was slower than normal - not bad, but not as good as normal. I'm in a high volume club and I haven't seen it really dead yet.

    However the target customers for most of us have just had to bend over for uncle same a few days ago, and I imagine they've been holding off on frviolous spending for strippers as a result.

    I think Tina is right, you should probably check out the topless clubs. At least check it out, can't hurt. It is possible to make money at these places even if you don't do contact, if you know how to play the game and really make yourself stand out. With no contact you may not be a top earner there, but you should still be able to make decent money as a veteran dancer. Also if all the girls are doing contact dances and you present a really stand-out image, it's possible you could become a top earner there with no contact.

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    I'd agree on some major factors which are specifically affecting clubs in Columbus

    - new stricter dance club ordinance

    - fear of future job security for both blue collar and white collar guys in a highly industrial/unionized area

    - higher state property taxes, higher local taxes etc. because of major state/local budget deficits

    - the possibility that other dancers have resorted to offering high mileage and 'extras' to maintain their earnings levels, while you have not

    - change in 'demographics' of club customers, with former corporate high rollers being replaced with younger customers on lower budgets (many of which bring their own girlfriends and don't buy private dances)

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    Bla-Dow! Taxes! It'll pick up after the first in Washington state, it usually gets better the second week in May.


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    I used to work in a BYOB club. It sucked. The main clientele were the little college boys who borrowed enough money from mom and dad to buy a bottle of Makers Mark and then enough to pay the door charge. Very rarely did they ever really spend any money. The "big spenders" would sit at the stage and tip each dancer a dollar. If they felt extremely generous and connected to a dancer, they might consider parting with an extra dollar.

    The club I work at now is a full bar, topless club. The men that come in here spend LOTS of money. They are older, and seem to be a lot more respectful (sometimes)...but, they are more willing to part with their money. My slowest night has grossed me around $450 (as opposed to my best night at the other club which got me about $180).

    Find another club. And you said that they allow contact, but to what degree? We are a no contact club, but the guys can touch our legs and arms...but that's it. I've also seen dancers working at a contact club who do no contact and make more than the girls doing contact. As Melonie said, make yourself stand out and you should be fine.

    Good luck!

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    I work in the pacific northwest and my club is doing poorly right now too, so much so that night girls are working the dayshift to see if its any diferent (which its absolutley not) this sux but it will end, focus on making new regulars when you see new faces for the time being and always keep positive.
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    Okay. I finally made it to nightshift. Dayshift was the issue. I worked Wed. night and made $220. That is much better!
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    Congrats!
    That has to make you feel better about things ;-)
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    Like many businesses, I think that strip clubs have been hurt by the internet, which has made other forms of adult entertainment more readily available. I also think that many strip clubs have become too expensive for anything other than a special occasion. I think you're losing the traveling businessman as a customer mainly for these two reasons.
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    I live in the Dayton area, and I can tell you that business around here has been down for about a month. All the places I worked at are topless w/ alcohol. I finally gave up and started DJing again. Hopefully things will pick up soon. On the bright side, if a couple of clubs close, there will be more customers for the better clubs that can stick it out in the meantime.

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    I also think that demographics are working against strip clubs. Strip clubs appeal to us older guys who were raised before the sexual revolution of the late 60's-early 70's. But we're approaching retirement age and don't travel as much anymore. Strip clubs probably are a little tame for a lot of younger guys unless they can get extras. Many younger guys weren't raised to respect women as much as we were either.

    Those businessmen who do travel don't have as much free time in the evenings as they used to. They're stuck in their hotel rooms answering emails and retunring phone calls instead of out having fun. For many people the work day has expanded significantly. Which is why I got out.
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    Strip clubs appeal to us older guys who were raised before the sexual revolution of the late 60's-early 70's. But we're approaching retirement age and don't travel as much anymore. Strip clubs probably are a little tame for a lot of younger guys unless they can get extras. Many younger guys weren't raised to respect women as much as we were either.
    I totally agree with this assessment. On top of the demographic change, you can add in crackdowns by corporate accounting on huge strip club tabs being charged to corporate credit cards, fear of negative publicity in an environment of higher club bust risk having negative effects on their career etc. as major reasons that historical low contact strip club customers are fewer in number plus spending less today.

    Of course there are exceptions, particularly the gold-plated, virtually bustproof, super-upscale strip clubs. Going to these clubs are almost looked upon as part of the ladder of corporate success. However, super-upscale strip clubs only involve perhaps the top 10% of corporate businessmen and the top 10% of dancers, which isn't all that reassuring to the other 90% of us.

    I also agree with your comment about higher contact expectations by younger guys. IMHO this is simply an outgrowth of new opportunities which younger guys have grown up with. Most younger guys are not satisfied by simply 'looking' at a beautiful nude girl - they can do this virtually for free via the internet or pay per view cable. Most younger guys also drive a hard bargain in regard to contact, based on factors such as the easy availability of online escorts with quoted prices and guaranteed results, based on strip club review websites indicating which clubs typically have the highest mileage for the money available, and the basic fact that younger guys are on much tighter budgets than guys the same age were 10 years ago. For that matter, many older guys are also on much tighter budgets than they were 10 years ago !

    When younger guys/guys on tight budgets go to a club which is known for low mileage, they usually know in advance what they're NOT going to get in the VIP room. Accordingly, most younger guys or guys on tight budgets are not willing to buy into the standard 1990's con of spending money first and then getting less than they expected once they're in the VIP room. They go into such clubs with the thought in mind of paying the cover charge, having a couple of drinks, eyeing the girls, tipping a few dollars to the dancers, and leaving !

    I've posted at length about this on previous occasions - that super-upscale "show" clubs and "high contact" sleaze clubs are the only two areas of growth in the strip club business today. "Middle of the road" clubs, which can't cash in on the corporate status/ super stunning dancers factor of the super-upscale "show" clubs, and which don't offer the high contact necessary to convince younger guys/guys on tight budgets to part with their hard-earned money in exchange for a known commodity in the VIP room as the "high contact" sleaze clubs do, are in a declining trend. Unfortunately, I can't find any significant reasons to think that this declining trend regarding "middle of the road" clubs will improve in the future.

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