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    Default Getting Tipped for dances - need opinions

    I work at a no contact nude club in Columbus, Ohio. It is normal for us to ask for tips after we dance on stage and after private dances. I recently visited a more sleazy place. I received advice on getting bigger tips for my private dances. It seems a bit unusual to me and wondered if this is normal elsewhere. We collect the money for our private dances before we do the dances and give it to the bar - we make a 60/40 split. Anyway, I was advised to ask for my tip up front BEFORE the dances instead of after. I was told to say something like 'the better the tip, the better the dance'. If I was asked what they would 'get', I am to say 'trust me! you will enjoy it!'. I tried this tactic today and didn't get a tip at all. Not to mention, He kept trying to touch. I wonder if I am setting myself up for failure here, or was this customer just rude. Any opinions?
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    Default Re:Getting Tipped for dances - need opinions

    I asked this question a while back because I was curious about this myself. Most people agreed that it is a turnoff to ask for a tip either before or after doing a private dance. Customers see it as being pushy, and some of them won't do a dance with you again if you ask for a tip.

    Most customers know that they can tip you if they want. If you ask for a tip, you might get some guys to tip you who wouldn't have otherwise, but in the long run you'll end up losing money because a lot of guys will be turned off by it and they will get less dances from you in the future, or no dances at all.

    I don't know how much dances are in your area, but dances are $15 or $20 in a lot of places that I know of. Try to see the customer's point of view-$15 or $20 is already a lot of money to spend on a 3 or 4 minute song. Asking customers for more money on top of that makes it look like all you care about is their money. Money is the reason that we are at work, but the idea is to make it not look that way.






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    Our customers don't see it as pushy because this is normal for us. Or at least they never said so. Our dances cost $20 for a private stage dance and $10 for additional dances. Our couch dances are $30 for the first one, and then $20 each after that. At the sleazy place, a table dance cost $40 - but, girls did more like a 'fake' lap dance. I wondered if saying 'the better the tip, the better the dance' would imply too much. Not to mention, dealing with maybe 10 customers a shift, I am looking for a way to make extra money without doing extras. It's not like the customer is going to know one way or the other whether the dance is any better.
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    Default Re:Getting Tipped for dances - need opinions

    I personally ask for tips with most guys I dance for.

    The saying 'the better the tip the better the dance' is a hard sell hustle. Guys don't like that. That is pressuring them.

    People tip AFTER service is performed, NOT BEFORE.

    It's better just to ask for a tip after you do the dance. Some guys will give you one and some not. Whatever you get above the dances is just extra money. It shoudn't be looked at as making or breaking your day.

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    If I had to give away 40% of my earnings, then hell yes I would ask for a tip afterwards, but I probably would not work in a place that has such a high payout, what's the point of being a social pariah ( ) if you aren't banking??

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    The lap dances at my club are $20 a song. I usually ask for a tip after a dance and most customers happily give it to me. I'd say one quarter of them tip without me even asking. Before getting them in the lap dance room, I tell them songs are $20 plus tips. After the dance I'lls ay something like, "You're welcome to give me a tip if you really liked my dance. You did like it, didn't you?"

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    Default Re:Getting Tipped for dances - need opinions

    You could say upfront, "dances are XX per song, tipping is optional (or appreciated)

    OR you could say "would you like a $40 dance or a $60 dance?" with $40 dollar dance being air or "fake" as you said, $60 (or whatever) being more, uh, stimulating.

    OR you could just say up front that a dance is (insert whatever amount you want)

    When I ask for a tip after a dance I bat my eyes and say "would you like to tip me because I'm so cute and I knoooooooow you loved my dance"

    Why is this place sleazy if girls are giving fake lapdances? I don't get it.


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    Any girl who asks for a tip upfront with the implication of greater mileage because of it is a ROB. Period.

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    Not if she provides higher mileage for better tips.

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    Default Re:Getting Tipped for dances - need opinions

    CP, if that was directed towards me I wasn't saying be a rip off bitch. I meant lapdance accordingly (if one is so inclined.)

    Some girls give the same sort of dance everytime to everyone regardless of the tip afterwards. Nothing wrong with that. Some girls might provide higher mileage (more grinding, straddling, letting him touch, whatever) with the EXPECTATION of a tip afterwards (and who hasn't heard the "yeah yeah baby I'll tip you good")

    OK now I'm confused. I just reread the original post. catfly works at a no contact club. I wouldn't recommend dirty dancing in a no contact club and if you're gonna do it anyway 1) price it accordingly 2) be prepared for major retaliation from the other girls. I thought you were working at the sleazy place but it seems you just visited. ahhhh fahgeddaboudit.



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    Not if she provides higher mileage for better tips.
    In my two decades plus of clubbing, I can count on the thumbs of one hand the number of dancers who actually deliver what they promise in these cases.

    Quite honestly, most experienced clubbers will tell you the harder the sale by a dancer (in re: mileage), the lower the probability of mileage actually resulting. As a laphound supreme, it has been my experience that the highest mileage dancers don't advertise their style; they are confident once you give them a test drive, you will be sold.

    As for the expectation of tips, that is the bane of any service employee, from waitress to dancer. Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that when you provide a quality service, you will have a quality quid pro quo (i.e. tipping appropriately) from your customer. You rolls your dices and you takes your chances. of course, if the customer fails to properly tip, then on his next visit, it's up to you to either downgrade the mileage, maintain the mileage and hope for the best, address the issue, or refuse to dance for him at all. Sometimes, betting on the come (no pun intended) is a smarter course of action.

    Let me give you a real life illustration. A dancer at my fave club is great onstage, has a terrific personality and gives a superior lap. For topless, she more than gives you your money's worth (even me). For nudes, the mileage ante is upped even more, and for VIP nudes even higher still. This is done regardless of whether she gets tipped or BTLAD'd (Buy the Lady a Drink?) by the PL.

    She never ever mentions money. When she does get a tip, she acknowledges it and gives even better service (already at Nordstrom quality) on future visits. When you are in a competitive "Wanna dance?" environment, sometimes just having a customer buy laps in multiples of more than one is considered a godsend. She always makes bank plus, owns her own home, and can travel when she chooses.

    For me, personally, I just hate when dancers bring up the money issue. It really sours my mood and makes me less inclined to lap her in the future (unless she has both my body type AND my mileage level). I would never even consider ripping a dancer off, and while I realize this behavior goes on more often that it should, that doesn't mean the dancer should operate on the assumption every PL is trying to steal from her. Most of us just want a few minutes with a fantasy girl.

    I have 19 dancers in my regular rotation between two clubs. Of those 19, THREE even count the money I give them after our laps. All the rest know the deal, without my laying it out, and don't have problems.

    So many dancers on this site use debatable tactics and always seem to be looking exclusively to the short term, then turn around and complain they don't have or need regulars (or worse, develop a stalker). There IS a cause and effect. Most PLs I know are looking for favorite dancers, ones they can return to time and again and give 'em money in exchange for solid lap performances. Give 'em a chance and you may find your take home increasing exponentially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer link=board=9;threadid=8436;start=msg99810#msg99810 date=1082585623
    just having a customer buy laps in multiples of more than one is considered a godsend.
    I agree. I hate onsie twosies. I'd rather dance for the same person all night long without any mention of being tipped than to wander around all night getting a dance here...there...over there...

    Honestly, THAT's when I usually hit them up for a tip (if I do at all.) Because it takes more time to find the next dance than to just keep on dancing.


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    The only time I ever say anything in regards to tips is when they ask how much they owe me. I give them the total and let them know that tipping, as Sapphire mentioned, is optional and appreciated, but say it without any pressure.


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    Oops, I lied, I will also ask for tips if I give someone a 2 4 1 and they get extra grabby or semi-offensive in anyway, it might be rude, but I didnt stop the dance and at this point, I really dont care if they like me or not!!


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    As a customer I usually tip to the stage and buy drinks for privates I'll also tip if I go for more than one private with the same girl.

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    I used a new tactic tonight. In my initial conversation with the customer, I stated how much I LOVED dancing in my club because ..."The customers here are real gentelmen, and they all tip so nicely!" I got tipped each time, with the exception of two guys who bought multiples (6 each), however, those same customers made it a point to tip me on stage .
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    I always ask for 10 - 20 up front for a lap dance. You have to get that money girl. Be a car salesmen about it. You gotta be creative. Be an actress. Imagination. [flash=200,200][/flash]
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    sometimes i do ask for a tip after i do a private dance and the guys dont mind ...im real sweet about it....and if they don't want to then thats fine.....one time i got a $100. tip after he paid for a dance

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    after the dance i just say...don't forget my tip......hee heee

    but im sweet about it and very friendly )and flirtly

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    its £20 for a dance in my club. ive heard girls tell the customer the dance is £25 including a tip

    one guy licked me while i was dancing for him so i made him give me a tip (in a nice way of course!) for overstepping the rules/boundaries.
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