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    Okay is anyone on the adkins diet or know someone who is? I was thinking about doing it. I also wondered what you are allowed to eat and how to go about getting a diet plan?

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    if you do the atkins diet, you have to be very strict about it, other wise, if you start eating both carbs and fats ur gonna start gainig weight. gotta be determined

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    atkins diet SUCKS. I don't care what any of you say, a bacon cheeeseburger is NOT healthy, I don't give a shit if it has a bun or not.

    Carbs are not necessarily bad. It is the REFINED carbs that are no good. White sugar and white flour are NOT good to eat, yet are both consumed at every single meal by most americans. When you cut soda, tea, coffee, bread, pasta, pizza, cookies, crackers, muffins, rolls, bagels, pretzles ect out of your diet, you will be doing yourself a big favor.

    These foods are not designed for human cunsumption. You will never find a bagel anywhere in nature. Our technology has allowed us to make these foods, but our physical bodies (digestive system) does not know what to do with these foods, and ultimatelty they get stored as fat, stress out the digestive system and elimative organs, and ultimately cause pre-mature aging, and unnecessary disease and death.

    I personally eat a large amount of my diet as carbs, and I never gain weight. I get my carbs from the same place man has been getting carbs for millions of years, FRUIT!. Our diet has included organic fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, fish, and meat forever. These are the foods for man. When carbs are from fruit, they contain vitamins, minerals, enzymes, phytochemicals, antioxidents, and other nutrients totally devoid in white sugar and white flour.

    If you want a book telling about the diet man originated from, the diet Jeses prescribes in the bible, the diet that is getting huge national media coverage as a far superior approach than the Atkins diet, check out the book called The Maker's Diet.

    PS, I reccommend all organic if possible because the human body is not designed to process chemical pesticides, genetically engineered food, irradiated food, growth hormones in meat and milk, antibiotics in meat and milk, herbicides, fertlizers, and all the other poisons added to our food supply. These poisons have only been in extistence for about 60 years and the rates of cancer has totally skyrocketed, turning healthcare into a multi-trillion dollar business. Organic may cost a little more, but what is more valuable than your health ?

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    For once in my life, I would have to agree with Ryan...LOL.

    Carbs are not bad for you. In fact, you NEED them for your body to function. Your body uses carbs as a fuel source. The problem with most eating habits these days is that people consume WAAAAAAAAAAY too many carbs on a daily basis. Most people eat bagels for breakfast, hamburgers for lunch, pastas for dinner, potato chips for snacks...the list goes on and on. If you cut the carbs you eat daily by 75% and load up on veggies and fruits, then you will be fine. Drink lots of water, too.

    Atkins diet is NOT healthy...look at the doctor. He looked skinny, frail, and sick most of the time...ewwwwww...I definitely do not want to look like that.

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    Dear God Ryan... ATKINS SAYS THAT THE WHITE CARBS (refined) ARE THE BAD ONES. Have you learned this yet? DAMN!

    Atkins allows you to eat all the protein you want, PLUS carbs (but vegetable ones) No fruits until you have lost the weight you want. Then you can slowly bring them in because they have a lot of sugar. Sugar isnt all that great for you, Ryan. No matter how "natural" it is.
    My mother was a diabetic (Type II) and when she stopped eating the white carbs and the fruits, her blood sugar stabalized.

    And how can Atkins be so wrong? So many people have lost weight and kept it off. Its not a diet, its a LIFESTYLE. Just cut out the white carbs, and eat better. Whats so wrong about it. As he said, our ancestors (the cavemen) didnt eat all the cakes and shit we eat nowadays. And they were strong and lean... whats the problem here?

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    I think the Atkin's diet gets a bad rap, since at it's core- it's pretty common knowledge, really. Long before the Atkin's "fad", body-builders knew the importance of a high-protein diet, as well as balancing carb/sugar intake to exercise level.

    The bad rap comes from the low-exercise models some of the lesser educated Atkin's advocates create. Everything you put in your body has a consequence- carbs and sugars are no different. If this intake doesn't match your metabolism and exercise plan, good health wont be the end result. You can't fault a system based on poor administering of said system.

    My diet could be considered a highly modified and custom tailored Atkin's plan. Which involves very high protein intake (in the form of chicken, poultry and seafood mostly), many meals of smaller portions, and a close watch on carb intake. I don't believe there is any such thing as "bad" carbs- just there are some carbs that require a hell of a lot of exercise to offset LOL... so best to avoid or reduce out of laziness. As many Americans really don't exercise all that much, the more Nazi versions of Atkin's rip-off diets still yield great weight loss results and short term health, but can have some longer term issues. This is why every diet/plan should be researched to get some understanding of the "why's" rather than let some 'tard at a diet center guess what's the best fit for you. The core "why's" of Atkins are fairly sound.
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    I was an Atkins diet advocate - I lost weight and kept it off from this diet -until I read where two different people were claiming that it gave them bladder and urinary tract problems. One of them was Melonie on this board. So beware! I don't know the details, but I would like to hear them from Melonie.

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    I agree with RYAN. I try to stick to natural foods. There really is so much variety to be found in them, it's just that we are lazy or don't have enough time to prepare proper meals most of the time.

    I will eat potatoes though (have only started doing that since a month ago), but I will try to stave off white flour and refined sugar. When I want to eat rice or crackerbread, I make sure it is brown and I also avoid pasta (white or brown, I just find it too heavy).

    It's my body and it craves. If I don't treat it once in a while, it will suffer and I don't want to do that to myself. Just don't be so strict with yourselves guys. You will see a lot of positive results if you take things in healthy moderation instead of drastically cutting out food groups.
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    i think the big thing to keep in mind is balance. too much of ANYTHING can have a negative impact on one's waistline. bottom line: burn more calories than you consume if you want to lose weight. don't deprive yourself, either. every once in a while a bit of comfort food is good for the soul.

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    I have to agree with Ryan as well. My body has always done best on a vegetarian diet. I have tried Atkins but was so unhappy with not being able to eat fruits and veggies, feeling constipated, and being concerned about the long term effects on my liver and kidneys. It just wasn't for me, although some people absolutely love Atkins.

    Personally, my diet guru is Dean Ornish, M.D. who wrote the book Eat More, Weigh Less. I like to be able to eat lots and lots and not restrict my eating, which makes me cranky and depressed. With fruits and veggies and limited grains I can do that and still lose weight. It also gives me the carbs I need for all the long distance running I do. I follow this book to the letter, though I do also supplement the diet/way of eating with soy and nuts. For people who were raised on lots of meat this vegetarian diet might not be something you want to do, but I just wanted to share what works best with me. :-)
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    I agree with polecat.

    But on the other hand, too much protein DOES make you constipated at first. But too many white carbs makes my waistline expand like a mofo. lol

    Im not gonna lie. I do eat white carbs, just not excessive. I eat french fries and things you should eat TOO much of once in a while, and I am doing fine.
    I just think that low carb is best for me.

    I know a girl who did atkins and it didnt work for her. She only lost about 2 lbs in the week, but after that she didnt lose much. He explains that its not for everyone but it DOES work for a BIG majority of people.

    Either way, it comes down to what you want to do. If you dont like it, dont do it.
    I personally wish I could do the vegetarian thing because I love animals so much and feel bad about it, but just cant seem to NOT eat the foods.

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    Atkins didn't really work for me either. I swear I did it by the book and lost like what your friend lost.

    I recently came across the Eat Right 4 Your Type series which suggests that a meat and dairy diet is bad for me, and I should be avoiding that because of my blood type (Type A). Type Os benefit more from a Atkins-like diet, which explains why so many people are successful with it.

    Also, Lexi, a vegetarian diet can be low carb....tofu, nuts, vegetables.

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    I find that I always do better when I eat lots of veggies and fruits, eat 2 servings of meat products per day and then lots of water.

    Since I do lots of weights, I need to make sure that my protein intake is high enough to help the muscles repair themselves. I do take protein shakes as a supplement as well.

    I have a weird diet, I guess. I can sometimes go for 2 weeks without really eating any meats, and then one week, I'll be craving meats like a starving lion!

    I just kind of eat whatever I feel like eating. I watch my carb intake (refined white flour products: pasta, white breads, crackers, etc) and just enjoy what I put in my mouth. I always feel much better that way.

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    just for the record:

    our ancestors meat=grass fed, local, fresh meat.

    our meat= soybean,newspaper,grain, sawdust fed meat. (yes, today cows ARE fed sawdust and newspaper)
    contains up to 100 different antibiotics, rbst, rbgh, growth hormone, pesticides, herbicides, ect. may be from anywhere in the world incliding chile, argentina, and many areas of the rainforest that have been cut down to make US based company factory farms. Cows in other countries (and here illegally) will be fed dead, diseased, other cows.

    Today's meat is so polluted and disease laden that much of it is irradiated, or passed through nuclear power plant like factories and subjected to as much radiation as 500,000 x-rays to kill deadly bacteria.

    It is NOT necessary to put any of these facts on the label of our meat packages. Most cow feed, (70+ percent), is GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SOYBEAN. This feed has only been in extistence since 1994, and the long term effects are totally unknown.

    Thses are a few of the many reasons that I opt NOT to subscribe to the Atkins diet, which is totally meat based. I value my health and my future too much to eat these "frankenfoods"


    As far as I am concerned, fresh, organic foods are the only way to go. There is no other option for me.

    For the record my diet is 95% raw fruits and vegetables, and occasionally I eat a piece of fish. Usually red snapper. This is basically the same diet as Jack Lalanne, who is 90 something years old, and has the energy and endurance of an 18 year old. He is convinced he will live pain and disease free until at least 150 years old. This is a man who we should be emulating, not Atkins.

    There was also a man by the name of Paul Bragg who died, in perfect health at 95 years of age during a surfing accident in Hawaii. He followed this same diet. There was another man named Norman Walker who lived to 119 years old eating only raw fruits and vegetables for the last 40 years of his life. The Hunza tribe of Pakistan eats 95+% raw fruits and veggies with occasional raw milk and regularly live to 120 years old.

    I think these people are the people whose diets we should be following. NOT some doctor who reccommends we base our diets on animal products as Atkins does. And for people worried about protien, nuts and seeds contain MORE protien per calorie than meat does.

    I am not saying to NEVER eat meat, I just think that meat should be the exception, not the rule. Sure, humans have been eating meat for a long time, but our staples were fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, berries, and other plant foods. We hunted meat when nothing else was available, and we ate the most nutritious parts like the liver and the heart. Animals who hunt still follow this practice. They do NOT eat the muscle like humans. All animals who hunt eat the INTESTINES of the animal. They eat the plant food that that the kill has in its' stomach. They eat the nutrient rich stomach, liver, heart and kidneys, AND theyeat it fresh and raw. We may have made many technological advances, but we are still animals derived from nature, and we should still follow natures' laws IF we want to live a long, disease free, healthy life free from obesity, cancer, and all of the other ailments affecting humans on a grand scale.

    Just so you know - obesity, cancer, arthritis, heart attacks, acne, PMS, colds, flus, diabetis, ect ane NOT normal. We cause all of our own ailments by wrong eating. This is obvious to anyone who can see past the media hype and pharmaceutical BS.

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    Ryan, while I'm sure you have a point about genetically engineered meat and cattle feed having potetially bad effects on the body, it doens't make Atkins bad.

    And you are WRONG that Atkins is a meat-based diet. It's a protein-based diet, and lots of food are high in protein and low in carbs, besides meat. I'm actually doing a vegetarian diet right now and eat very few carbs simply because soy is low-carb, and I end up eating lots of it.

    Also, your antecdotes of people living 100+ years on your diet does not mean it's superior. And those who do the Atkins diet are not necessarily thinking aboutt he healthiest diet, but do it more to lose weight. A lot of itmes we sacrifice our health for the weight loss shortcut. Not that this is an excuse for eating poorly, but you are not going to gain acceptance for your diet by explaining why Atkins is unhealthy. for many dieters, you must appeal to our vanity before you appeal to our sense of health and well-being.

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    I have seen many people have great success on Atkins and South Beach. My best friend, Ken, lost 20 pounds for his wedding last year by adhering strictly to Atkins and has kept it off since then by keeping the Atkins philosophies in mind and simply eating smarter. He usually has most of his carbs midday and tries to avoid them morning and evening. He eats alot of fish, chicken, nuts and eggs. It worked for him.

    Me, on the other hand, I won't be able to go on a carb-restricted diet until they come out with low-carb Hot Pockets and Bagel Bites! Hee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenLeigh link=board=5;threadid=8903;start=msg105908#msg1059 08 date=1083834952
    I have seen many people have great success on Atkins and South Beach. My best friend, Ken, lost 20 pounds for his wedding last year by adhering strictly to Atkins and has kept it off since then by keeping the Atkins philosophies in mind and simply eating smarter. He usually has most of his carbs midday and tries to avoid them morning and evening. He eats alot of fish, chicken, nuts and eggs. It worked for him.

    Me, on the other hand, I won't be able to go on a carb-restricted diet until they come out with low-carb Hot Pockets and Bagel Bites! Hee!
    Hot Pockets and hot sauce are one of my weaknesses! LOL

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    Hey everyone, I'm going to give you the low-down on the low carb diet plans. First, I want everyone to know that I am a nutritionist and personal trainer who knows what she's talking about.

    Everyone needs carbohydrates no matter what; it's what your brain needs to survive... so if you don't want to get a debilitating (sp?) disease, I suggest you eat your carbs.

    Yes, carbohydrates like white breads, white rices, white pastas, etc. aren't the best for you, but you can still eat them. Fruits and vegetables are great for your body; so theres no need for them to be cut out of your diet. You need the fibre from the fruits and vegetables to have regular passes through your colon; without these regular bowel movements the food from yesterday, two days, three days ago becomes compacted and is absorbed by your colon and produces toxins within your bloodstream.

    The only reason people lose weight on low carb diets is because they are essentially eating less food.... if you cut out the bun off of a burger, you are slashing approximately 150 calories.

    Oh and by the way, a diet isn't a weight loss regimine, it's basically what you eat. Whether you eat healthy foods or junk foods, what you eat is a diet.

    For all those people who are trying to lose weight, just remember this... a calorie is a calorie and input equals output. No matter if you eat all your calories from protein or all from carbohydrates; if your body does not burn enough calories than you consume, you will gain weight. There is no magic formula or recipe to make you thinner; this is just how it is.

    Another tip to lose weight is to eat breakfast. When you eat your breakfast, your body isn't starving for it's next meal, which will make you want to turn to a sugary item of food like a bagel, which will give you temporary relief, but soon your energy will crash and your body will be craving another sugary food.

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    Oh, I almost forgot. When you yo-yo diet; it causes your body to retain more fat the next time you want to go on a diet. It's a defense mechanism.

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    I dont know, fox force.. In atkins, when I stopped eating the white carbs, I totally lost weight and not because of the calorie slashing. I was eating chicken salads, and all that yummy stuff all day long yet lost mad inches and weight.(Which by the way I have kept off, AND do cheat)
    I even MADE myself eat breakfast (bacon, egg and cheese omelete once in a while)

    I think that my body takes white carbs and likes them too much. lol When I start to eat shitty, I start to gain nasty water weight, and fat.

    I just think that for my body, the reduction of white carbs is whats best. Sure I have them once in a while, but its not my main source. Though I will admit, not everyone reacts to atkins the way others do. Its like anything else.

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    There are several reasons why people lose weight on the atkins diet, but it isn't the healthies way to do it.

    Eating bread makes you retain water, so when you cut out carbohydrates like bread, you lose water.

    When there is a depletion of carbohydrates in your system; which is needed to function your major organs, your body looks to other ways to get carbs. It turns to your muscles... your muscles slowly degenerate as you continue on the low carb plan; which is another reason why you lose weight... muscle weighs more than fat.

    Personally, I couldn't eat that much protein, and it would be nearly impossible for a vegetarian to stay on the plan. The over consumption of protein is hard on your liver which is the filter of your body... you can produce golf stones; which aren't fun at all

    I only want everyone to be happy with their bodies and to lose weight SAFELY.

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    fox,
    I agree with your statements, totally. I lost a ton of weight in my first week on atkins. (7 lbs) BUT it was water, like you mentioned. (I was happy cause I hate to retain water)

    However, only if you remain in ketosis for too long will you burn your muscle. Atkins explains how your body (when in ketosis and not getting carbs, turns to your stored fat and burns that as well) The only way you would burn muscle is if you do it for too long... which he doesnt recommend. (bigger people can do it for longer, as they have more fat stores)
    But actually, the pic in my avatar is when I was in the middle of doing atkins. I lost water weight, and continued to eat throughout the day, and I drank lots of water. Not only that I did cardio AND weight training (which you know builds muscle) I didnt lose muscle at all, just water and fat.

    I agree though, its a hard thing for a vegetarian (he says he would really recommend it. There IS a way to do it for vegetarians, but its so much more strict that he doesnt think its worth it) Its also hard on people who love bad carbs LOL (like me) I could live on junk but I realized a few years ago, that its what keeps me fat!

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    oops, forgot to add, that my avatar is me in the middle of atkins. I have since kept doing it and have much more tightness and definition. I also have a lot of energy (except when I work like Idid about a month ago...6 days, 4-1am or 8-4am) yikes.

    Overall, I really like how I have changed. Infact I have a pic of when I was a bit fatter. LOL But I wont show it on here. Soooooooooooooo embarassing.

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    The Atkins diet was created for people with hypoglycemia.......America's lack of discipline is going to ruin the credibility of a good thing.

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    I watched celebrity diets on tv and they told the differences between the various popular diets. Of all the diets that have you watch your carbs Atkins is the most strict. I don't think I could do it- I like to have have a little bit of carbs-like the occasional sandwich (esp since I usually eat with my boyfriend just less than him) but keep carbs in moderation. The Zone, Sugar Busters, and South Beach allow you to have some carbs but whole grain ones with fiber to fill you up- but you cut out sugar and white bread and rice.

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