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    Default Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    How do I do it? At my club, we have $10 table dances, and then there is a seperate little section where the dances are $20. All the rules are the same for BOTH costs of dances--no contact, no nudity. How do I sell those $20 dances instead of the $10 ones? Do I just say, "$20" when the customer asks how much the dances are? I need ideas. Thanks.

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Okay--no ideas. Well, I guess I'll just try out my little idea about saying $20 instead of $10. Thanks, gorgeous!

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    I've never worked in a club where dances are priced differently. We have VIP ($50/night) and champagne areas($100/hour), but that's a fee that goes to the club. In VIP, dances are typically the same $20 as in the rest of the club, but with slightly more contact since it's a little more secluded. Champagne is a completely private booth and the dancer's tip is typically $80-$100 or more for the really old, wrinkled dancers (read: prostitutes) who give über-extras. My other club has 2 for 1 Tuesdays, but it's across the board, two songs in a row for $20.

    Anyway, you don't care about my clubs. What I was going to ask was, are the different prices for different areas advertised to the customers? If they don't know, then I would just do as you suggested to yourself and quote them $20 no matter what. Does the club keep track of how many dances you do in each area? If not, and the customers don't know, then I see no reason to charge half price for the same damn dance! That's just silly.
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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Maybe change your style a bit? Can you do floor work in the private show?
    One thing that sets me apart, it seems, is many of the girls at my club do topless dances only, where they can take off bottoms as long as they are outside the booth-thingy. So, I'll do a body slide during the dance and be on the ground, do that thing where you on lying back, legs in air, cross 'em, do circle thingies, spread, move g-string to the side and rub a little, replace g-string and jump back to the guy.
    So something, ANYTHING, different, and explain to customer that you are more comfortable doing "all the tricks you know" [or some similar line] in a more private area.
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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    this won't work in every situation, but maybe you could hint to the customer that since the $20 dance is more "private," that it will allow you to feel to feel more "naughty." Then talk dirty or moan throughout the dance, try to entice him other ways. again, this will NOT work for everyone. just, that in some clubs it's gotten me extra dances in certain situations. other than this, you might have to deal with the $10 dances or switch clubs.

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Basically you have to make the customers think/assume that they will get something extra for the extra money...which is a pretty natural notion, whether or not they actually will!

    (And, of course, the customers have to convince dancers that they will get some extra money for any extra intimacies they provide, whether or not they actually will.)

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Here's a few tricks we teach in our class, so consider this a freebie. Usually this works well when a customer asks why go to the VIP room and pay $100 for three dances when he can pay $60 for the same dances on the floor, but it applies to your issue also. Two techniques you can use is to first not elude that he will get "extra" services, but that due to distance from everyone else, you two will be more secluded and have less prying eyes on you. The next trick works REALLY well. When the customer asks you why $20 instead of $10, just tell him that to dance for him at the secluded section, or in the VIP room, YOU will feel more comfortable. When a dancer says to a customer, "I'd be happy to dance for you here, but to be honest, I feel a lot more comfortable dancing for you more privately over there and because of that, you'll get much better attention", the customer will usually oblige you. From the guy's prespective, he wants you to be more comfortable, and keeping that in mind, he figured he'll get a better dance out of it. It works like a charm.

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    what do you call the private area dances? VIP dances? I tell them it's more private (because it is!)

    when you say no nudity, do you mean no topless too? If you can be topless, only take your top off in the back.


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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    I think your own answer is the best. Just simply state the $20 option and run with it.

    Out here, most all the clubs don't have any fixed prices for anything. The dancers have the freedom to price as they see fit. The fact that many clubs here have flat tip-outs (i.e. no per-dance cut, just a huge daily payout) and fairly slack contact rules helps with that, but the underlieing premise is still the same. A customer looking for a lap can expect to pay anywhere from $20 to $60 for the same dance in the same club, just depending on the dancer. It can even vary by the day- where a dancer wont go the laplounge for less than $40 Sunday through Wednesday, but will go for $20 on Thurs->Sat. They just state the price, and there is no negotiation. If the customer counters saying say so-and-so just offerred one for less, the answer just becomes a "I'm not so-and-so... I'm worth it." or similar.

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Thanks so much for your replies! Yes, the no nudity means no topless, too. There is absolutely no touching or anything like that. The VIP area, or the Private dance area, has the exact same rules as the $10 areas. The costs are posted, but most customers don't seem to notice the signs on the wall, even when they look for one. I'll try my idea, as well as all of the ideas posted.

    Thanks, Dancer Wealth, for the freebie.

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth link=board=9;threadid=8942;start=msg106038#msg1060 38 date=1083867037
    Here's a few tricks we teach in our class, so consider this a freebie. Usually this works well when a customer asks why go to the VIP room and pay $100 for three dances when he can pay $60 for the same dances on the floor, but it applies to your issue also. Two techniques you can use is to first not elude that he will get "extra" services, but that due to distance from everyone else, you two will be more secluded and have less prying eyes on you. The next trick works REALLY well. When the customer asks you why $20 instead of $10, just tell him that to dance for him at the secluded section, or in the VIP room, YOU will feel more comfortable. When a dancer says to a customer, "I'd be happy to dance for you here, but to be honest, I feel a lot more comfortable dancing for you more privately over there and because of that, you'll get much better attention", the customer will usually oblige you. From the guy's prespective, he wants you to be more comfortable, and keeping that in mind, he figured he'll get a better dance out of it. It works like a charm.

    This is exactly what I'm doing at my current club. The only problem that I'm having is that there aren't that many punters in the club to begin with.... I'm only been doing one or two a night.

    I basically only mention the $100 lap dance (even tho' we have a $50 option). If they ask why so much? I can easily answer back because we offer more privacy for a more intimate experience. No one except who ever else is upstairs can see what is happening.

    The $50 option is really not worth it for either the dancer or customer as it is no touching and the dancer has to cover up her genitals (it's just a more intimate version of a $20 stage-side show).



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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Depending on what goes on the floor, you could try selling $10 dances as a table dance and $20 dances as lap dances. The privacy/"I feel more comfortable in the VIP area" usually seems to do well too, although I used this in a club where there was a difference between what was allowed on the floor and what was allowed in VIP.
    Now I'm in a wonderful club with way more lax rules so I have a really tough time differentiating between the two :'(

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth link=board=9;threadid=8942;start=msg106038#msg1060 38 date=1083867037
    Here's a few tricks we teach in our class, so consider this a freebie. . Two techniques you can use is to first not elude that he will get "extra" services, but that due to distance from everyone else, you two will be more secluded and have less prying eyes on you. The next trick works REALLY well. When the customer asks you why $20 instead of $10, just tell him that to dance for him at the secluded section, or in the VIP room, YOU will feel more comfortable. When a dancer says to a customer, "I'd be happy to dance for you here, but to be honest, I feel a lot more comfortable dancing for you more privately over there and because of that, you'll get much better attention", the customer will usually oblige you. From the guy's prespective, he wants you to be more comfortable, and keeping that in mind, he figured he'll get a better dance out of it. It works like a charm.
    You don't have to give any more freebies if you don't want but I'm curious (if you wouldn't mind sharing) what you teach for a club where the VIP area...er....sucks? We've got a teensy corner, slightly raised, basically in full view of everything, and it isn't one bit private. Its a fairly tame club but the $10 dances tend to be full enough contact that there really isn't anything more I (or most of our girls) would do for a $20 one.
    Do I bat my eyelashes, look cute, and imply that I'm worth the extra just cause I'm super?
    (I'm a horrible salesperson and a wonderful conversationalist and could probably stand to enroll in your classes sometime soon).
    Thanks!

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    Default Re:Selling A $20 Dance--Not a $10 One!

    dancerwealth, ive been using the "would a vip dance better suit our needs line" and it works, i explain its so much better as i get to take my time with them and its so much more private and for longer insted of for just 3mins all the while stroking their lapels or arm or something and acting like im aching to get naked

    well it works wen someone is actually up for a dance with me! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21stcenturyfox link=board=9;threadid=8942;start=msg114153#msg1141 53 date=1085595002
    dancerwealth, ive been using the "would a vip dance better suit our needs line" and it works, i explain its so much better as i get to take my time with them and its so much more private and for longer insted of for just 3mins all the while stroking their lapels or arm or something and acting like im aching to get naked

    well it works wen someone is actually up for a dance with me! lol
    I read throught this post once before and I no longer see the "would a vip dance better suit our needs" line anymore. Where did it go?

    Ooops! Nevermind! It's on a different thread. I am an idiot today!
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