I think I would rather be locked up in an all female prision than a stripclub. At least there's solitary in prision!
I think I would rather be locked up in an all female prision than a stripclub. At least there's solitary in prision!





of course you would blade. What guy wouldn't want to be locked up in a female prison? heh heh




Uhm, I wouldn't..Originally Posted by Sapphire link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107647#msg107 647 date=1084233856
I'd figure it would be like a Tori Amos concert, but with a little less anger.
But back to the main topic- yes, this was clearly labeled as a vent and not so much an argument. Customers always have a tendency to see some sort of relation to someone they like/dislike then paint a post with that prior experience. I simply see it as a complaint about the chain-yankers and horse-and-carrot guys which are SO frequent in the clubs locally here. And yes, they quite frequently are the most loathesome individuals that do it the worst!
Cheers!
It doesn't matter if you're somebody in this world, it rather matters you mean the whole world to somebody.



I just came back from LV, had a great time, and funny you should start this topic. I don't know if you have been to CH2s or OGs in Las Vegas but there must be 100-150 girls at night (more on weekends). If I danced once with everyone of them that asked I would have had to spend $2k-$3k, and most ask, sometimes many times a night (just making the rounds).
So obviously I can't dance with all of them, and I am going to have to say no to some. I don't think any guy likes saying no or hurting the dancers feelings, but they just can't say yes to all of them.
Most of the dancers don't seem to react at all when I say no thanks, but occassionaly there would be one that I could see by her reaction that she was taking it personally. Here is what I explained when this happens... You should not take it personally. My saying no thanks has nothing at all to do with dancer.
These are just absolutely beautiful girls, gorgeous, with big beautiful eyes and smiles. And I am sure you are the same. It is just that a guy goes to a SC to indulge in some fantasy time. Who knows what fetish thing is going to turn a guy on any given night? Could be something stupid like color of a girls hair, her outfit, glitter on her skin, some bit of jewelry she wears around her waste, the smell of her perfume. Things that would make no real difference in the real world, but (for whatever reason) are turn ons that night and that is who a guy is going to spend his money on.
Or it could just be that your beautiful, but he feels no connection (hard to explain) beyond the fact that your beautiful and so he is looking for some small piece of reality (or sense of reality), something that makes his fantasy seem more real.
Whatever the reason don't take it personally. You are right that in the real world these guys would do stupid things to have a chance to be with you, but in the SCs the real world fades away and every guy feels special (if only for a short while).





I suppose my question is, why should getting rejected by a "reject", be any different than being rejected by any other customer? The customers are the ones there to receive validation, not you. You're there to make money. Focus on that and you won't be concerned with your ego.Originally Posted by celeste_63 link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107528#msg107 528 date=1084217559
Like a lot of guys, I didn't exactly get the good end of the gene pool, but I turn a lot of dancers down. I have a limited budget on me and may already have in mind who I want to spend it on. For every gal who gets a yes, I probably turn down 3 or 4. Nothing personal against those I say "no" to, they just weren't who I had in mind.
Actually, I think that you posted this in exactly the right area. Without the input of some us "rejects" who make your income possible, the answer to your question wouldn't exactly be complete. Posting in LO probably might have simply given you the cathartic pat on the back you were apparently looking for, although may I point out that not all your criticism here came from males.I think I made a mistake--> should have posted this in "Ladies Only." I only wanted to know if other girls felt the same way...I don't really care what the guys on this message board think, otherwise I would have posted this in the Customer Care section.
VG you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you.Originally Posted by VenusGoddess link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107519#msg107 519 date=1084216698
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As for customers who show up at a club to do nothing more than take their frustrations with the entire female race out on the dancer staff (and often the waitresses as well), I've seen more in my time than I would like to. They often tip very little, turn down everyone and are annoying to all who witness their imbicility. They also come in all levels of physical attractiveness.
I try my best to differentiate myself from that customer. Turning down a dancer who feels I owe her a sale for the pleasure of basking in her aura doesn't make me one of them.
Former SCJ now in rehab.
yup ! there's more than a few of those types in any club on any given shiftOriginally Posted by lilac666 link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107538#msg107 538 date=1084219260
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Who do you think you are to address me like this? Have I at any point made a personal comment towards you or anyone else? I don't know where you think you are (the blue site perhaps?) but around here GIRLS rule, so show a little f*cking respect. I have only been dancing for a short while but I've been through a lot in my life and I don't take abuse from anyone.Originally Posted by Blade is a D.j. link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107638#msg107 638 date=1084233082
"When I squinted the world seemed rose-tinted and angels appeared to descend; to my surprise with half-closed eyes things looked even better than when they were opened!"
Celeste, as another poster said, did you just expect to get a pat on the back?
Beautiful women are a dime a dozen (and there are plenty on this forum as well) so to hear you talking so poorly of men who dare to turn you down....well, makes me think maybe you aren't quite as beautiful as you let on.
You are exactly the type of girl I AVOID in the club, whether I'm working, or as a customer. No one wants to hear someone go on and on about how beautiful they are, how anyone would be blessed to spend time with you...it's hard for me to imagine that you aren't putting off this vibe in the club as well.
Sounds like there are some insecurities that need to be addressed before you will reach your full earning potential. And just a word of advice, no one wants to hear how beautiful you think you are, even if you admit being conceited. Not a pretty quality
Chandler
And GIRLS don't just "rule" around here...there are plenty of men who contribute a lot to the forums!
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Celeste,
Yep, all those fat older men are assholes. It has nothing to do with you or your selling skills, they're just rejects who want to get back at beautiful women. Maybe you should just stick with those cute nineteen year olds. LOL
Lena





I'm really confused at what some people are considering "abusive" nowadays......
*gives Sapphire a stern look*Originally Posted by Sapphire link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107865#msg107 865 date=1084294044
Does that qualify?
-afx





LOL! I don't know. I'M CONFUSED!!! hehehe
Originally Posted by celeste_63 link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107838#msg107 838 date=1084290075
I assure you Blade(as well as most of the men on this board) have more respect in his little toe than most do in their entire bodies for dancers as well as this business. One must never judge someone without walking in their shoes first. Before you jump all over Blade, perhaps you should re read the posts here. I don't believe that he was abusing you in any way shape or form, but simply stating his opinion, which is a bit more blunter than mine, or a few others: You have a shitty assed attitude on your customer level. But, I am not you, nor is anyone, this board is for advice, you claim to think that the customers should be blessed by your presence, when in fact that without customers (not just in dancing, but in ANY job) you have no job. Customers are what keeps any business going, without them there is no business. Whether you take off your clothes for the pleasure of others, or sell peanuts at the circus, if you feel your customers should be thanking you.. you are waaaay wrong. High and mighty attitudes sink really fast in this business.
Attitude is everything. If you are new, you've got lots to learn. That's what this board is for.
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Just..you know...on some basic level...let's face it, I wouldn't be in this profession if I thought I was a hag. I know I'm cute, smart, & nice. I have a gorgeous boyfriend who worships me. So in the back of my mind, while I absolutely agree I can't possibly be everyone's type, I do think to myself: "Who does this nasty guy think he is, to reject me?!" I guess it's just a defense mechanism in order to maintain my high level of self-esteem.
High level of self-esteem? Don't make me spew. Is this "gorgeous boyfriend that worships you" the same one you were ranting about that doesn't give a shit who you mac on right in front of him? And you were upset about it? Sounds like you might be a tiny bit delusional.
Chandler, FYI, none of these guys would ever perceive me as having an "attitude," so don't think from one post you can determine how I treat people.
It's pretty simple to determine how you treat people. This isn't the first post of yours I've read that you refer to yourself as "hot" and blah blah.





Hi Celeste, do you have pics posted in the gallery?
Chandler--> no, different boyfriend.k: that last one was a jackass.
You guys gave me a lot to think about. Apparently being new I have been taking rejection too seriously. I like what Darren pointed out about a guy not rejecting ME as a PERSON, or even as a girlfriend, fuck buddy, whatever, but just what I am specifically selling at the club.
I don't think it's right for you guys to judge my attitude based on one topic. Like I said at the very top of my first post, I was venting. I don't hate my customers, and I value them because, as Gynger said, without them this business wouldn't exist. I had two guys who ticked me off on Saturday. I know they won't be the last, but this website is definitely giving me ideas on how to handle them and myself.
Don't know what else to say...I don't have any recent pictures but here is one from about a year and half ago (I posted it in another thread). Sorry I don't have any naughty ones for you to judge. Now my hair is shoulder-length and blonder...but anyway you get the idea. Since you can't see my body, I'm 5'3, 120 lbs, 34C...average I guess.
"When I squinted the world seemed rose-tinted and angels appeared to descend; to my surprise with half-closed eyes things looked even better than when they were opened!"
Based on that pic, I'd focus a little more on your personality.
::rolls eyes::Originally Posted by freakychandler link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107913#msg107 913 date=1084300819
There's nothing wrong with my looks or my personality. What is your problem?
"When I squinted the world seemed rose-tinted and angels appeared to descend; to my surprise with half-closed eyes things looked even better than when they were opened!"





thanks celeste I do remember you posting that pic now.
I was asking merely to judge for myself your visual hotness.![]()
No problem at all CelesteJust find it amusing that you came in guns blazing, telling everyone off "how dare they talk to you that way"...but once you find you don't have reinforcement you're sweet again.
Nice to have my suspicions confirmed.
Well I am happy with the way I look :smiley: According to hotornot.com I am a 7.5, I'd say that's about accurate.Originally Posted by Sapphire link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107924#msg107 924 date=1084301930
"When I squinted the world seemed rose-tinted and angels appeared to descend; to my surprise with half-closed eyes things looked even better than when they were opened!"
Hotornot.com isn't the most accurage judge, but whatever feeds your ego Celeste. I realize this bantering is just taking up space, but I know your type, and frankly, I just don't like it.
And a 7.5 on hotornot isn't that great.
I came on here, voiced my opinion which is based on admittedly limited experience. Some people agreed with me, some didn't. I definitely learned some things, particularly from Gynger & Darren's responses. How long do you expect me to stay mad about what some anonymous people said on an Internet message board? I'm not acting "all sweet again," I just got over it.Originally Posted by freakychandler link=board=27;threadid=9076;start=msg107925#msg107 925 date=1084302122
"When I squinted the world seemed rose-tinted and angels appeared to descend; to my surprise with half-closed eyes things looked even better than when they were opened!"





It's important to be happy with the way you look. I am also. It just seems ironic to start the thread by implying how hot you are how dare a reject turn you down then end it by saying your body is "average, i guess"
But, you were just venting and I'm glad to hear you are able to see things from a different perspective
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