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Bridgette link=board=27;threadid=9441;start=msg113152#msg113 152 date=1085340718
I also think owners/mgmt are usually the main cause of the downfall of most clubs. When things get tight, instead of trying to gouge everyone they can (dancers AND customers), if they would implement changes that could benefit everyone instead, things would be alot better all around.
Use a freakin dancer cap for chrissakes! There is NO need to have, for example, 18 girls on shift when 10 is enough. Don't hire every damn skank who appears at the door just to get her measly $25 tipout (as in the case of Divas PR lately). Have a set number for every shift, and when that many girls show up, CUT IT OFF. Don't let the primadonnas who straggle in at 10pm work if you're at the limit. They are annoying bitches anyway.
I agree with quality over numbers.BUT,customers would rather pay to see 20 girls then just 10,thats your customers point of view.
Mgrs and owners want to see more girls,they get more customers,they make more money,thats their point of view.
Get it right,its only the entertainers who want fewer entertainers.
Don't get greedy with the tipout structure. I learned that my current club used to have a standard tipout structure of 5% to the bar and 5% to the DJ, on top of same house fees and doorman tip. Mgmt got greedy and changed it to 10% to staff pot, of which mgmt now takes the largest cut, and divides the rest to bar and DJ. That only generates anymosity among staff who begin to demand more from the dancers to make up the difference. So in the end the dancers wind up paying more to keep everybody placated, as a result of mgmt greed. It would be the same if mgmt simply raised the tipout standard directly to get a cut. Either way it's gouging the dancers. (I came along after this change, but it was fairly recent and most girls are still a bit chaffed by it.)
well,i survive by what entertainers tip out.I dont expect an entertainer to tip out the dj 100 bucks every night,but 5 dollars???10 dollars???Thats not even enough money for a cd for him to play for you when you ask him for the hottest new song on the radio.
The dj wants more girls on rotation,because of the entertainers who only tip 5%.same with the door and anyone else who lives off tips at your club.
As for the house fee,well,if its more then your making,your in the wrong club.
If you make 1000 a night and the tip out is 200,you still walk with 800.If you make 300 a night and the tip out is 200,theres a problem and its not the tip out.If all the other girls make money and your not,time to look for a new club.
Clubs with high tipouts tend to be the nice clubs in any given area.You pay to work,if your paying alot of money and your not happy with your surroundings,again,time to shop for a new club.
Set dance prices that are reasonable for all involved, post the price, and attempt to enforce it across the board. Set song length and ENFORCE IT. No girl should be playing Stairway to Heaven or some such nonsense, and no DJ should let that crap go on for the girls doing lapdances - or the customers who get bored seeing the same damn girl on stage forever. A 6 minute song equates to a 2for1 lapdance or several bored stage-tippers. No song in a SC should EVER go over 3:30. Period. If the mgr has to set PCDJ to stop every song at 3:30, so be it.
we agree.Most songs should be cut between 3-3:30.That keeps the lapdances at the same amount of time.I dont think a club wants to refund everyones money because they are pissed their lap dance song lasted 3 mins and the very next song last 6.
alot of new girls would be dancing on stage to stairway to heaven and stranglehold while the veterans were in the back making money!
song limits keep it fair for all.
Let the dancers/staff get a glass of water or soda over the bar for FREE. The cost is insignificant and the result of having workers who don't feel bitter at having to pay customer price for a drink of water is worth MUCH more.
Inventory control.People steal.If you think only the employees will be getting things for free your wrong.any club who doesnt count every bottle and can,and at least "point"their booze bottles is going to go broke soon and be out of business.
wait till you have a waitress who drinks 47 cokes a night.Its bullshit,she sells them to customers for 5 bucks when she got it free,see my point??
make the entertainers pay for their drinks!!!!!!!
Maybe some will keep a friggin count of what they drink.I love an entertainer who cant make tipout because she has a 150 dollar bar tab!!!
If your an entertainer,get your customer to buy you a drink.It may even make you feel like you made a little bit of money for the club and not just yourself.
Have an ATM in the club, keep the fees reasonable, and don't set the blasted withdrawal limit at $100. Alot of guys don't want to use funny money for several reasons, and many want to get more than $100 without having to repeat the withdrawal process.
Its one way a club makes money,and also protects itself.Its a standard limit.First off,most atm's are owned by the club,they charge 5-7 dollars per withdrawl.
after the cover charge and the drink or two,how does the club make money off a customer who can be there for 3-4 hours???I have seen customers who milk a beer for 8 hours!!
2nd,it helps in the lawsuits the clubs get from guys who spend their life savings and want to sue!If the atm's in casino's have a limit,why not the ones in gentlemens clubs?
Have funny money available, and charge a REASONABLE fee for it. 20-25% is TOO MUCH. If you must charge that much, then split it between customers and dancers - 10% to each. That is plenty to cover processing costs and the occasional chargeback. Anything more is plain gouging and pisses people off.
you must know that clubs are charged thousands of dollars a month on credit cards that are denied payment because the guy wakes up the next day and figures out he cant spend 2000 in one night.
I dont have the actual stats,clubs are different,but i would guess they really only get 5-10% after its all said and done if they charge 20-25% up front.
Pay the freakin staff a reasonable amount. Don't reduce them to scrapping for dollars from everyone they see, or watching the floor for dropped bills rather than what they're supposed to be watching.
why???
If i can get my yard mowed cheaper and done the same by someone who is willing to do it for less money then the next guy......
simple law of supply and demand.
MOST mgrs make less then the bartenders.
If its so bad,why is it so easy to fill positions in this industry???
Enforce the rules equally, across the board. Don't let Suzie Bitch run over everyone - dancers, staff or customers. If some chick can't follow the rules like everyone else, kick her out. I have NEVER seen a girl who couldn't be replaced. Period.
true,but there are exceptions to every rule,and veteran entertainers who have worked hard for you over the years deserve a little lee way IMO.
These are just a few I can think of right now. There are others which I'm sure I or someone will post later.
>>Added: Treat staff and dancers with a modicum of respect and humanity. The #1 biggest problem an SC can have is mistreated and/or pissed off workers. They will transfer those feelings to customers, which in turn will RUN OFF the customers. Happy workers leads to happy customers, who will come back.
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