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    There is a girl at my club who, no matter how few customers are in the club, manages to pack her stages. People seem to come out of the woodwork to sit at her stage! I don't get it, because she rarely, if ever, smiles or makes eye contact and does not seem all that friendly. And she gets dance after dance after dance, yet I have not seen her hustle. What is it that she is doing that I'm not? She is rather average-looking, but she does have great curves. Her dancing style is slow and fluid with traditional stripper moves. Could it be her fluidity in her movements on stage? Or maybe that I am not average-looking enough? Or something else?

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    There are some girls who just have it. It's hard to describe, but a girl who has it is immediately recognizeable.

    It is partly the way she just seems to float on stage. She doesn't have to do much in the way of fancy moves, because the WAY she moves is undeniably sexy. Pay attention to the details of her movements, the way she walks, slides her hands across the rail, slips down onto the floor, whatever. You'll notice it all looks extremely smooth and feminine. Some of that is just natural, but it can be learned if you work on it.

    The rest is probably the way she talks and carries herself with the customers. The way she slips her hand on his back as she approaches, slides her hand up his arm as she talks, touches his knee, etc. Super feminine and sensual. You don't have to be super pretty or even very friendly if you ooze femininity and sensuality.

    Watch and take notes. Then practice. I'm betting you'll notice an increase in your earnings.

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    I knew a girl who was like this. She did not do anything on stage. All she did was come to the front of the stage and remain there. She moved very little, but everything she did was sexy. Same with her dances. She didn't make eye contact or smile. She never touched anyone either. I never saw a man turn her down. Her persona exuded attitude. She made the most cash in the club. I think it depends on the girl how she should present herself, but this worked for her.

    Oh, it didn't hurt that she was the gf of a rock star. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erotictonic link=board=27;threadid=9574;start=msg114408#msg114 408 date=1085655298

    Oh, it didn't hurt that she was the gf of a rock star. lol.
    I'm gonna take a wild guess that it wasn't Courtney Love

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    I have to say that I have to agree with Bridgette.
    I've actually heard this comment directed towards me recently.
    About a month ago I was working with this dancer who is rather vocal with her opinions of other dancers. She was voicing them and I was mostly listening to what she had to say. At one point in the conversation I had told her that I was going to take it easy tonight. I said that I made more money talking, joking around, and being my usual sensual, seductive self then relying on busting my ass to make alot of money. She then replied stating that yeah she had seen me make piles of money while I was hardly dancing.

    My #1 regular customer, who has ironically known me for years since I was 18, said the same thing about the floating. He said that I just have this way of carrying myself that is unlike many girls in the club I work--meaning that I carry myself very well as compared to the others I work with.
    I happen to think (modestly) that I'm not the best dancer, that its not my dancing skills that really attract people, nor the pretty face that many say I have or large breasts(although it might be the immediate attention-getter)--what makes me my money is a combo of my personality and my willingness to be different then most dancers I work with. I get crap all the time about how slow(yet sensual) I dance--while most of the other top dancers(which I am included per manager) bust their asses dancing hard dancing fast doing alot of tricks on the runway.
    Yet. some people don't see how I do so well.

    The way I see it, everyone has their own dancing persona. If the one you have isnt working for you financially, like Bridgette has said, try to adopt one that does.

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    Exotica don't feel bad. I am one of those girls who feels like to make money I need to be constantly "on" and put effort into every thing I do to make money. I am sure it has nothing to do with your looks. Some of these girls who seem to do it effortlessly are advrage looking so as you already figured out looks are only part of the package. I bet after a day of work you feel spent. That is how I feel. I have to constantly sell myself to get dances. Constanly be concious of what I say, body language, dance moves, smiling and having energy. I say only about twice a week does anybody ever just come up to me and ask for a dance. It usually is never that easy. Some girls just have this charisma. Just accept that you are one of the ones who have to WORK at it. Yeah it sux but think of it as a good way that you will eventualy become an excelent hustler and make money anywhere!

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    could be that she seems aloof and untouchable, which makes men flock to her b/c it presents a challenge to them - and you know how men like a challenge or "the chase." who know. some people do have that special charisma like Lilac said, or something about them that makes people look twice and it has nothing to do w/ the physical.

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    also depends on the club *thats what ive noticed* i have smooth soft moves on stage.. Sexy and sleek.. But i work in a blue collar club... hence the girls that shake their ass the fastest and hardest make the most money... and none of them smile on stage... i actually do.. *shrug*



    im prolly going to take my self to a white collar club...

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    Well I probably fit into the how does she do it?? category. I don't have a huge butt (which costs me major points at one of my clubs), and I'm not white --(which in the eyes of the other dancers costs me points at another club). Yet I usually come out on top at work.

    But I work my ass off. I just don't let it show. Everyone has a different angle, and you don't necc. need to copy someone else's to make more money, just study yourself and what works best for you , then perfect that.
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    This kinda makes me wonder cuz I was working last night and it was really slow, girls (including me for awhile) were only makin like five bucks on stage. Then at one point I started moving differently, I got into this whole other frame of mind, and suddenly I had over twenty bucks on stage and I was still going. It was weird, no one else even came close to ten on stage during the night except me. (And i am not bragging, I actually was kinda weirded out)
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    TimidAngel I don't mean to sound bitchy but..If I had a dollar for everytime a guy in the club said that to me I would never have to work again. Seriously though alot of guys say stuff like that to alot of girls. They are not being sincere. They would say that to any pretty girl that gave them the time of day.

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    Sorry hunny I ment to put this to your response under the My Story thread. I am really not trying to be mean. I am just pointing out how one should be wise to the ulterior motives of strip club patrons.

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    Thanks for the replies. So what I am getting is that the slowness and sensuality of her moves is what is really working. I kind of figured that. Her curves probably don't hurt, either. Now that, I just can't acquire, not my tiny little bodyl. Anyway, I have been studying this young lady, and I am going to try to incorporate some of her ideas into my dances. I don't do tricks or anything, though. I have been trying to work on moving more slowly and moving my hips more. I dunno. I don't mind having to work on my charisma factor and stuff, which I WILL have to work on it since I don't naturally have it. I don't mind having to work on it, as long as it is something that I can in fact acquire. Any ideas on how to acquire that charismatic, untouchable auroa without looking like an egotistical bitch? I need help here.

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    Heheh, I know how you feel. The two girls that are top earners in my club:
    1. Perky, fun, good hustler, gymnast with the pole and basically guys go out of a VIP with her thinking "holy crap!" basically a cheerleader fantasy - not the prettiest girl, though.
    2. beautiful girl, but has that aloof "I miiight give you the time of day, if I feel like it" attitude - can be kinda bitchy. Doesn't know a single pole trick. once again, good hustler.

    And any time these girls go on stage, people flock towards them. I don't quite know what to contribute, but it can be a difference between a bunch of bitchy attitudes and a cheerful one, or too many overly pleasant girls and a "challenge." It doesn't hurt to be a really good dancer either.
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    i think a lot of it has to do with experience. the girls who glide have usually been dancing for a while...and have often been at the club for a few years too.

    things i've noticed about these girls:
    -they check their problems at the door
    -they are nice to everyone and damn charming
    -they stay away from club drama and from chitchat
    -they're always on the move in the club
    -they are in great shape...that is, they look like they eat right, stay clean more or less, and may or may not exercise
    -they dress in outfits that are simple, but a bit different from those of the other girls
    -they are amazingly confident (is it an act? i have no idea)

    my suggestion (and what's been helping me)...don't try to be like them. just work on feeling sexy. be confident in your "product" and "service". if you get turned down, realize that it probably didn't have much to do with you (at least not if you're well groomed and have a good attitude)...it's a lot harder than it seems. spend at least an hour a day working on your looks, if just on maintaining them. do what works for you, don't try to look or move like other girls. just do what makes you feel sexy.

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    My, former, friend and another girl would outpace the other dancers by a large amount consistently. They both had almost the exact same routine every-night. I could almost almost hear myself speaking her routine to myself as I would wait for her to take a break.

    The routine every-night was the following:

    1) Arrive at the club, straight to the dressing room, and back on the floor in ten minutes.

    2) Walk directly to the most visible spot on the floor where there is an unobstructed view of every seat in the place and a clear view of the club entrance.

    3) Stand in their 'pose.' Systematically make eye contact with every-single customer. As soon they had a 'contact' they would walk directly over and get their dance.

    4) After their dance(s) and any necessary hygiene, straight back to their spot and repeat.

    5) If no clear signals are being sent out from eye contact, begin to walk the club with their 'walk.' A gentle arm on the shoulder and a one or two sentence offer of some private time together.

    Nothing fancy and probably pretty tedious to do night after night. I can't imagine any of the other dancers being able to do the same routine without looking silly or awkward. Neither of them are ever involved in any drama. They never have problems with customers. They never have problems with the management. They are too busy working. They work harder than the majority of the other dancers working each night combined.

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    There is a girl I've worked with that is similar to the girl exotica described. She always has customers tipping her on stage and she always gets a lot of private dances. She is attractive, but definitely not one of the prettiest girls at the club. She doesn't seem very friendly either, and I rarely see her smile. She looks very elegant on stage and dances very slowly and sensually. She rarely does any pole tricks, although she knows how. I noticed that when she is not on stage, she works the room for private dances and does not sit long with a guy before asking him for a dance. Sounds obvious, but a lot of girls waste too much time with customers or they sit by themselves and don't work the room at all.

    I've noticed that most guys prefer girls to dance slowly while on stage. There is a girl who I think is an excellent dancer-she's very flexible and does a lot of pole tricks-but she dances very fast. I'm surprised she doesn't sweat like a pig when she comes off stage. Whenever I'm sitting with a customer and she's on stage, 50% of the time the customer will comment that she's dancing too fast and he wishes she would dance more slowly so that he can see her body better.

    The girl I mentioned before has one customer that comes in almost every day she is working and he always gets a ton of private dances from her, usually 10 or more. He never gets dances from anyone else, only her. He's been coming in for at least a year now and he always spends a ton of money on her. I wish I knew her secret-I've been dancing for over 2 years now and while I get customers who buy a lot of dances from me, eventually they expect me to see them outside the club. After they realize that is not going to happen, they either buy fewer dances or quit coming in altogether.






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    You know, blondhottie, you hit the nail on the head. I must admit that I sit with customers for too long before mentioning a dance. My goal is to ask after 2 songs, but it never happens. And, yes, I have also noticed that they like slower moves! So those are two things I must work on. I think my lack of curves is hurting my earning potential, but I can't do anything about that. So I'll just work on the things that ARE possible to change. Something else I have noticed--not only does this girl move slowly on stage, she moves slowly period. Walks around slowly, collects her tips slowly. And there is another girl that has all slow moves, too, who makes hordes of cash. I am going to try to walk around more slowly, and collect my tips more slowly. It won't hurt to try. This "it" girl that has been the topic of discussion wears the exact same outfit day after day after day. And she is there almost every day of the week. Now that, would wear me out too much. No same outfits for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=27;threadid=9574;start=msg114403#msg114 403 date=1085653536
    The rest is probably the way she talks and carries herself with the customers. The way she slips her hand on his back as she approaches, slides her hand up his arm as she talks, touches his knee, etc. Super feminine and sensual. You don't have to be super pretty or even very friendly if you ooze femininity and sensuality.
    Very very very true!

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    Exotica: First of all your curves or lack thereof really have nothing to do with it. It's more about how you carry yourself. Know that you are a beautiful sexy creature and it will be reflected in not only the way you carry yourself but in your earnings.

    Second it's not just slow movements, but slow, smooth and soft, sensual. I know you don't want or need to spend all your time watching every move this girl makes, but when you see her, pay attention to the way her hands move, the way her feet move, all the little details. It's not just about moving them slow, although that is the most obvious. You'll see what I mean.

    Finally, this doesn't work for everyone. My style is rather more aggressive and friendly and that is what works for me. I'm always one of the busiest girls in the club and it's mainly because I keep moving and am always friendly. Not every guy goes for my type/style but not every guy goes for the slow/sensual thing either. Some will say she moves too slow and she needs to dance. Others will say I move too fast and I need to slow down (I move at about a medium pace btw, not fast at all). You have to find the groove that works best for you.

    No matter what though, it takes practice, trial and error, and constant focus! Always keep your mind on the next dance, and then it's easy to remember to ask rather than sit around chitchatting too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerFriend link=board=27;threadid=9574;start=msg114868#msg114 868 date=1085738874
    My, former, friend and another girl would outpace the other dancers by a large amount consistently. They both had almost the exact same routine every-night. I could almost almost hear myself speaking her routine to myself as I would wait for her to take a break.

    The routine every-night was the following:

    1) Arrive at the club, straight to the dressing room, and back on the floor in ten minutes.

    2) Walk directly to the most visible spot on the floor where there is an unobstructed view of every seat in the place and a clear view of the club entrance.

    3) Stand in their 'pose.' Systematically make eye contact with every-single customer. As soon they had a 'contact' they would walk directly over and get their dance.

    4) After their dance(s) and any necessary hygiene, straight back to their spot and repeat.

    5) If no clear signals are being sent out from eye contact, begin to walk the club with their 'walk.' A gentle arm on the shoulder and a one or two sentence offer of some private time together.

    Nothing fancy and probably pretty tedious to do night after night. I can't imagine any of the other dancers being able to do the same routine without looking silly or awkward. Neither of them are ever involved in any drama. They never have problems with customers. They never have problems with the management. They are too busy working. They work harder than the majority of the other dancers working each night combined.
    Sounds like me!!!

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    Okay.... it is all good and fine to work the room... but what if the room is full of (in total) 8 or less patrons ? You go around to all of them, friendly, chit-chat, etc.. then ask for the dance.. "maybe later" (or similiar)... then what ?

    It is easy to "work the room" like some of these high dollar earning dancers do when there are more patrons/punters. It doesn't quite work when there is less than 10 patrons/punters in a club (or even less!).

    Sometimes you do have to sit by yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=27;threadid=9574;start=msg115450#msg115 450 date=1085860657
    Exotica: First of all your curves or lack thereof really have nothing to do with it. It's more about how you carry yourself. Know that you are a beautiful sexy creature and it will be reflected in not only the way you carry yourself but in your earnings.
    exactly. one of the most popular girls in my club (and probably the one with the most regulars) is a total twig. she can't be more than 105 pounds, and she can't wear more than an A cup.

    there are probably plenty of guys at exotica's club who wish there were a skinny little thing that could move/talk/act/etc the way that curvy girl does, since they prefer twigs.

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    hi nina im suzie 20 r u a poll dancer?i really wanna become a poll dancer

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    hi all ru all pole dancers in here

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