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    I work at Deja Vu and, as we all know, they can be pretty freaking greedy. Washington clubs are hurting, so as a result, my club now has no cover, only drink minimums apply. This, in theory, is a great idea, it's supposed to bring in customers, yadda yada yadda. However, as a result, it brings in guys with no money and then management expect the dancers to make up for the loss of revenue at the door by selling dances and paying high house rent. And since we get alot of 18 y.o. thugs now, the gentleman that can afford to by a dance is not coming in. Is this really fair?


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    Hmmmmmmmm...... I really dont think that is fair. Are you at the Lake city Deja Vu? Is business really that bad there. I work at honeys and they seem to be doing great. Maybe you should come work with me, that would be fun!
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    Lake City Vu has been bad for awhile. I worked there a couple years ago, and left because it sucks and the girls were super bitchy. I'm at Tacoma. Whats the house at Honey's?


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    No cover charge=Cheap guys. Find another club immediatly!

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    The house at honeys is $100. It seems like alot but if you have a good hustle its nothing. Plus the girls here are all pretty accepting of new faces. Especially me, I believe i am the nicest most personable girl there, so if you stop in on friday dayshift, Say hi to me, Serenity!
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    In Isabela, Northwest Puerto Rico, two of the clubs are no-cover but they're pretty skanky. The third one (where I was last night ) charges your first drink at the door and it's much classier.



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    The only Deja Vu I ever visited was downtown Seattle - was not impressed.

    I have to say, one of my favorite clubs has no cover during the lunch and early afternoon hours in order to bring in the business lunchers. It works pretty well. There's decent money in during that time. But for evening partiers, I have to agree. No cover is going to bring in the cheapasses who figure might as well go to the strip club - get to see naked pretty women and not spend money.

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    Hmmm.... this then poses a question:

    Do you think that clubs that generally don't do cover charge are on the lower end of the scale ???


    I've found this to be true as well. It can work but ultimately it also brings in those who are there "just for a beer". My current club does this generally during the week.... or else they charge a bare minimum of $5. I'm moving from that club to my old club this week... I'm outta there because of the fact the type of patrons that the club (dancers esp.) need just aren't there.

    Since the bar is where they make their money, they don't give 2-hoots about how little the dancers are currently making....


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    The upscale Tokyo clubs that employ gaijin (non-Japanese) dancers use exactly the opposite approach, fwiiw. They have a high cover charge (5000-7000 yen, typically), and that only entitles you to be in the club for an hour...or 90 min in some cases. You have to keep paying if you want to stay longer. Often there is some sort of discount, a reduced price or some extra time, for your first time period in the club...in order to get you "in the door", so to speak.

    It includes as much as you want and anything you want to drink while you are there, and they push the drinks on you as fast as you can put it away. (Presumably the idea is to get the customer so drunk that his financial inhibitions drop away.) You (as a customer) still have to pay the usual sort of absurdly high prices to buy dancers drinks, though.

    No doubt the high cover keeps the number of customers down a good deal, but the ones that are in the club usually seem to be spending money on privates dances and dancer drinks pretty freely. It is really too much to pay to just sit there watching the stage show I guess, and there are cheaper ways to get seriously plastered if that is your aim.

    Anyway, a different "business model" than I have ever seen in the States. (I suppose a club could get in legal trouble here for encouraging a customer to drink too much here...not an issue in Japan.)

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    Most DejaVus are like that, only charging drink minimums with no cover, with maybe the exception on a Friday or Saturday night. Plus they give out tons of free passes, so a really cheap guy only has to buy the drink minimum to stay in a Dejavu as long as he likes.

    This is part of the reason I don't work for Dejavu anymore, ever. And if the clubs in a certain area are all owned by Dejavu, I won't work that area period. Their greedy, mean spirited tactics starve out other clubs, overcharge dancers with high stage fees, which generally ends up running out most of the upscale dancers and customers out of town.

    And there are upscale clubs that don't charge cover during certain hours. For example, all of the clubs in Vegas don't charge cover, but that is only if you come in during daytime hours. And the customers that come in during daytime are made to spend money in other ways, or they are forced to leave. But no cover during night time? That would bring out the worst of the cheapskates in my opinion.

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    I've never seen any relationship between lack of a cover charge and cheap customers. Cheapo college age guys are going to come in and nurse a beer or soda for two hours regardless. In fact, if they have to pay a cover charge, they have even less money from their already meager bankrolls to spend on dancers. Five dollars is standard cover around here and they still come in. I've also been in juice/BYOB clubs with a $12-15 covers and the same thing happens.

    As long as that crowd isn't overwhelming the place, I don't really mind their presense. Those of us who ARE buying dances tend to stick out a little better.
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    However, unfortunately, in Washington, we can't have alcohol in the clubs, so that also brings down the clubs sales and again, we are to make up for it.
    It just seems that Deja Vu is a semi nationwide greed machine! Bastards!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish link=board=27;threadid=9690;start=msg116271#msg116 271 date=1086063658
    I've never seen any relationship between lack of a cover charge and cheap customers. Cheapo college age guys are going to come in and nurse a beer or soda for two hours regardless. In fact, if they have to pay a cover charge, they have even less money from their already meager bankrolls to spend on dancers. Five dollars is standard cover around here and they still come in. I've also been in juice/BYOB clubs with a $12-15 covers and the same thing happens.

    As long as that crowd isn't overwhelming the place, I don't really mind their presense. Those of us who ARE buying dances tend to stick out a little better.
    Doc, nothing will keep the younguns out of the clubs altogether. But it's the cover charge that keeps them from overwhelming the place.


    Nikki, I would've gotten my ass outta there yesterday. That is worse than disgusting BS. I have never worked at a Vu and you can bet I never will, but I still hope whoever came up with their business model dies a slow painful rotting death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette link=board=27;threadid=9690;start=msg116329#msg116 329 date=1086078043
    Doc, nothing will keep the younguns out of the clubs altogether. But it's the cover charge that keeps them from overwhelming the place.
    That doesn't explain why an alcohol bar with a $2-4 cover seems to have fewer of these bums than a N/A bar with a $10-15 cover. What makes that younger crowd overwhelm the place is the fact that they come in groups and then get in everybody's way by taking up the best seats. The ones who come in by themselves tend not to be a problem.

    The only way to keep those bums from running the good customers out is to not let them in the first place. Enforcing an age minimum (even a club imposed one) is the only way to go. Someone suggested in the "Perfect Club" thread raising it minimum to 25. I'd almost like to see a club try something like this just to see if it would fly.

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    In Va,if your in a nightclub,you have to have a drink in front of you.Its loitering if you dont and the customer and the club can get a fine.(it doesnt have to be booze)
    We have the highest cover in the area and im glad.Not because I get any of the money(I wish!)but because most people who dont have alot of money to spend on that night dont come to see us,they go to the cheaper clubs down the street.
    Basically if someone comes into our clubs,they have money to play with.
    A cover charge and a dress code combined can eliminate alot of the riff raff that "get in the way".

    Im sorry DV is catching so much flak.I have been in a few of them and they have always looked clean and well run.I dont think i have ever seen a bad entertainer in all my visits,just quality top notch entertainers.
    There is a reason why they are doing so well at so many different locations across the country.Its the same reason many entertainers make so much money at all these same locations.

    There is the small town, mom and pop restaurants,and then there is the big city MacDonalds type restaurants.
    The Macdonalds type is the way of the future of this industry.Only the best of the best mom and pop places will survive.
    The good side is all the seedy dives/brothels in this business will find it harder to open and stay open.

    Just some advise to the wind....

    If you dont like the Vu,transfere to a different one around the country.This is a benifit you have from working in a chain,you can relocate within the company.Thats a big +
    If you have never worked for a vu or a chain style club,dont knock it till you tried it.There is a reason why they are a chain and there is a reason why the girls are there.find out for yourself.

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    The Seattle/Tacoma area sucks period.

    No alcohol in a club in virtually every case means higher house fees and more young punks.

    Without bar revenues, the club has to make money somehow.

    And juice bar cover charges are typically higher than alcohol bars so that = a lesser head count.

    So, business is down so drop the cover and have a drink minimum.

    Still not going to work.

    High juice bar house fees plus per dance fees and wrong clientele = no money or not even making payout back.

    And the other clubs there are juice bars and their pay outs probably model DV's.

    Bad state to work in. The whole Pacific Northwest sucks.


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