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    This is an excellent thread and I for one have enjoyed reading the thoughtful responses. In my previous post I asked the ladies to provide some first hand examples of Sugar Daddy sans sex experiences. They responded with several from their own life experience. I still believe that guys like those described are as rare as hens teeth but apparently my "one in a zillion" statement was a bit of an exaggeration.

    Doc raised an interesting point regarding a Sugar Daddy versus a High Roller. Too me, a High Roller spends tons of money at the club on tips, drinks and dances. Some spread it around amongst lots of dancers while others concentrate their spending on one or perhaps two dancers. There may be a little outside the club contact (emails, cell phone calls to confirm schedules etc) but essentially their relationship is defined by the club boundaries and their activities are limited by them. Sugar Daddies, on the other hand, are much more deeply involved in the lives of their Sugar Babies. Yes, if the lady happens to be a stripper, there will likely be club interaction but on a different level than what is typical of customer/dancer relationships. Chances are when he comes in, it will be just to see her. Maybe they will do some dances and maybe they wont...most likely they wont. She will sit with him the entire time he is there, talking, having some drinks etc. Other dancers will scratch their heads wondering why this otherwise hard hustling dancer will sit with some guy for hours and not do a single dance! If you watch carefully while youre at the club you will likely see examples of this.

    Is this healthy behavior or a slippery slope for both parties? Hell, I dont know. Right now, Im in a quasi-Sugar Daddy relationship with a dancer who has been my favorite since the first of the year...Miss D to those few of you who may have read my posts on the Blue Site. I say quasi because the level of money spent, while significant, has not reach astronomical proportions. We see each other once or twice a week, inside and outside the club depending on circumstances. Sometimes money changes hands, sometimes it doesnt, again depending on what is occuring at the time. Im very comfortable and delighted with how our relationship has evolved as is she. The reasons are plentiful.

    First and foremost, we respect each others boundaries. We communicate often but at the same time carefully with due regard for what might be going on in our personal lives. No late night panicky phone calls from her to me or psycho phone calls from me to her.

    Physical connection is awesome but being on the same level intellectually is icing on the cake. I own a very successful business. Not bad for a hillbilly from KY LOL She is working on her PHD (not stripper shit...for real). We can interact at a very nice level. I tease her that she acts old (read mature) for her age and I act young for mine. I think weve met somewhere in the middle. And that is a nice place to be.

    Lastly, money is not an issue. I dont keep track but if it turns out I wind up spending $20 or 30K on her this year its not that big a thing. Its not my life savings nor do I think it will constitute hers. If we stopped seeing each other tomorrow life would go on for both of us.

    Arriving at this point took some work for both of us. I know that there is a small part of me that is introspective...flinching a bit at paying for what is mutually enjoyable. On the other hand though, there aint no free lunch as one of the other posters mentioned. I act freely and totally understand what I am doing. She would be stupid to turn down the benefits of those actions.

    A final comment. A couple of you guys are trying to lay a huge guilt trip on the dancers for having customers that spend loads of money on them. To those of you who know me this may seem out of character but I think the ladies would be stupid not to take the money. Why in the world should they have to go through the mental and emotional exercise of wondering if the guy can afford to spend the money? Short of him coming to the club with his barefoot, pregnant wife and five dirty faced kids in tow, I dont think strippers should have to make those kinds of calls. Its business pure and simple. I give her a purchase order she provides services.

    Have a nice evening.

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    nice post fbr. my situation is close to what you describe. both of us are enjoying it and he has the disposible income. no evil intent or twisited manipulation here. i know big shock right? he is an intelligent person, he wouldnt still be around after 3 years if i was "leading him on" i think he'd be over it by now if it wasnt a mutual agreement even if the agreement isnt nessesarly spelled out to the letter. we enjoy each other in our own way.. end of story.

    he does only see me... but if i'm not there he likes to get some "strange" dances lol.
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    Ladysummer - Can you tell him that you have a friend named Dallas who likes that bag too? Enjoy it! You don't owe him a thing! Your time is as valuable as that bag. He obviously has money or he would not spend it - take it! Everyone is right, it will eventually end then it's on to the next victim.
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    That's a wonderful gift...enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet link=board=9;threadid=9821;start=msg119939#msg1199 39 date=1086755198
    nice post fbr. my situation is close to what you describe. both of us are enjoying it and he has the disposible income. no evil intent or twisited manipulation here. i know big shock right? he is an intelligent person, he wouldnt still be around after 3 years if i was "leading him on" i think he'd be over it by now if it wasnt a mutual agreement even if the agreement isnt nessesarly spelled out to the letter. we enjoy each other in our own way.. end of story.

    he does only see me... but if i'm not there he likes to get some "strange" dances lol.
    Velvet sometimes its not easy for a man to post his opinion here unless hes a suck up. Only slightly less unnerving than wearing an "I love Bush" tee shirt to a John Kerry rally LOL You may escape alive but you are definitely going to have some bumps and bruises.

    Its too bad that the whole SC experience is often about denial. Customers dont want to admit that they are paying for something which in the real world should be freely given. What kind of guy has to pay for the company of a lovely woman? Loser!! Dancers refuse to publicly acknowledge, particularly amongst their peers, the lengths they will go to in order to extract those dollars. The charade gets tiresome at times but I dont see it ever changing.

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    I also wonder the extent to which customers are seen as "not worthy of ethical, fair, or normal" human treatment may or may not play a role in these decisions.

    There was a thread on dating customers a while back, and the general consensus of those dancers who posted was that guys in the club are in some way "less" than other guys they meet outside of the club. Partly out of necessity for both their job success and dating life. This thread reminded me of the "dating a customer" thread, but I'm too lazy to search for it.
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    Great great post by FBR. He caught that dynamic EXACTLY right.

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    sweetie, i think he was just being nice to you to eventually see how "nice" you might be to him. but in defence, i have had guys buy me stuff before take me to dinner ect.. and never once ask me for sex or andthing of the sort. i even have one "sugar daddy" right now that went with me , my daughter, and my hubby to pick out school clothes for her. he knew that my hubby had gotten hurt at work (he damn near broke his back)and he not only "footed the tab" for her clothes; he took us out to dinner and gave us $500 for our annivesary AND him and his wife watched her while we went out for the night! he would never think of asking me for anything like that at all, i likes to spent money and have a good time and he loves to have people around him that are engaging conversationalist. him and my hubby play golf togther once a month, and me and his wife go shopping. you can make a "suger daddy" relationship a good one if you guys are both honest and forward and upfront from the start. but there are a few bad ones too. me i just love the guy not only for his money, but for him as a person. although i would just love to have a hot young stud on the side....... (damn, now i gotta push those devil horns back in!)
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    As for me I have always enjoyed giving money to beautiful Women. If a man gives money to a woman he likes then, if the woman should agree to accept it. Now if he expects something in return the woman could simply ask if he does expect something from her for the gift. She should tell him honestly upfront if she will do a reciprocal favor or not. As a man who has given money to a lot of women, when I do give money I would hope that she can appreciate it. I do not think that a man giving a gift to a woman and then the woman responding to the gift by providing a sensual favor is necessarily prostitution either. It could be but does not have to be. I dont see why she cannot help with some kind of relief to the man. Some Men like doing that for Women. I know I do. and I will do it again hopefully soon. More sensual activity is a good thing.

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    considering my current situation...i could use a few sugar daddies right about now...
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    Topaz, they are out there. But, based on your previous posts regarding men, I dont think the price to you would be palatable.

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    Personally I see nothing wrong with buying gifts for some of my regular dancers I prefer not to do cash gifts as that looks like an offer of prostitution.

    I have a high disposable income and to be honest am a soft touch for a sob story, I am not a lapdance person instead preferring to spend my time talking with beautiful intelligent women.

    If asked outright buy me this I would refuse on principal but when I have gotten to know a dancer and albeit most likely the sob stories all BS they entertain me so I am a soft touch for them.

    Case in point if a dancer I know and like gives me a story about not being able to make a car payment I will help but not with cash I would ask the name of the company and cut a check to them for he amount although I have bought 3 LV purses as gifts just because I could and I wanted to not because of a sob story

    So I guess it is to each his own on what he wants to do in the situation now my financial situation is better than most so it is not a problem nor a detriment to me

    Just my 2 cents.

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    I started up another sugar daddy relationship today. Pretty fucking stupid as I can barely afford the first one.

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    LMAO

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    Viper it may come to that

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    This is a very interesting post as there are several opinions with very lenghty reasoning behind them. It is interesting to see that opinions differ between males and females. Also interesting that most true "sugar daddies" and "high rollers" are very unfamiliar w/ this site and will never offer their opinions. Time=money. Usually those w/ the most $ have the least time. Looks like we will never hear thoughts of why those with the most $ spend it.
    From my experienc, it is because they want to take care of a woman, have the indespensible income, want to impress her, and she is in their eyes "their ultimate fantasy".

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    Wow, i&#039;m glad i stayed out of this thread.


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    OK, took 2 pages (!!!) off this thread. This is THE (well this and extras, but aren&#039;t they just different sides of the same issue) topic that gets both sides riled.

    Remember, this is the dynamic that makes for strip clubs in the first place. If this dynamic wasn&#039;t there, there&#039;d be no money for the ladies and there&#039;d be no ladies for the guys. Don&#039;t fight it - just understand it.

    Guys no reason to harp on modl&#039;s post, seriously. Most sides have been well addressed...no need to try and dominate.
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    So much struggle for meaning, for purpose. And in the end, we find it only in each other. Our shared experience of the fantastic. And the mundane. The simple human need to find a kindred, to connect. And to know in our hearts... that we are not alone.
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    Thanks to Pryce and GF for reeling in the shit here. I was pissed but Im glad I didnt go over the top.

    I sent an peace offering to modl via PM being the nice guy that I am. I doubt she will respond but I made the effort. I was sitting at my table at the club this afternoon with 5 hot strippers hanging about me..garters stuffed. I thought to myself "Self, too bad modl doesnt get it If she looks like her avatar she is hot"

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    Aw,no fun.They removed some pages.Oh well.
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    We could restart it. I think its a great thread. Surely some of the ladies here have some stories to tell. As well as maybe a couple of the guys.

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