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    getting sued.... :o
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...41scores1.html
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    JUNE 3--A New York City man is suing Gotham's leading gentlemen's club, claiming that his credit cards were billed a whopping $129,626 for a seven-hour stay last year at the East Side strip joint, The Smoking Gun has learned. That's right, $129,626! Did we mention the bill totaled $129,626? According to the below lawsuit, filed May 27 in State Supreme Court, Tauhidul Chaudhury and three friends arrived at the Scores nightclub last October 23 at 9 PM. The quartet drank in the club's bar area until 11 PM, when Chaudhury's cronies departed. Though Chaudhury--a Bangladeshi national who remained at Scores alone until the club closed at 4 AM--was "clearly and obviously intoxicated," Scores employees continued "supplying Chaudhury with the alcoholic beverages and other services, including causing Chaudhury to be admitted into a private room." The complaint does not describe those additional "services" (or any Champagne Room ministrations), but lap dances must have been on the menu. When it was all over, the six-figure tab was spread over four of Chaudhury's credit cards, with the Manhattan man claiming that he "cannot recall authorizing these charges." "If the credit card receipts do contain his signature, he did not possess the requisite mental capacity to authorize these charges," alleges the complaint filed by attorney Robert Cantor. In a brief interview, Chaudhury told TSG that he filed the lawsuit against Scores after his credit card companies rejected his bid to strike the charges. "They did not find reason to decline the payments," said Chaudhury (that's probably because his signature appears on the credit card receipts). Lonnie Hanover, a Scores spokesman, said he had not seen the complaint and could not comment on Chaudhury's claims. This is the second time in two weeks that a former Scores patron has filed a lawsuit accusing the club of improper billing--though the first litigant claims he's out just $28,021, a pittance compared to the gargantuan Chaudhury tab. (6 pages)

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    Ummmm...it took him a YEAR to figure this out? WTF?? I smell a rat...the last guy only took a couple of days/weeks. It seems to me that this guy thinks that because he has a high bill...that he can now jump into the sue pot and get his money back. If his signature is on the receipt, then he's out of luck. If I was the judge, I would say, "Chalk it up, dipshit. You were too drunk? Then learn your limit. Case dismissed."

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    i hear ya venus ...this is one of the reasons why i haste taking credit card payments from some of these guys unfortunately because this (stripclubs in general) are a part of the sex industry the judge might rule in his favor ....bastard...people like to blame their actions on being drunk but just like how he could get up and go to the champaign room the he could have stopped when he realized he was over spending ..nothing more than the poor bastard must be out of a job and decide that he needs money ....hopefully there is a history of this on his credit cards this way the judge can see that he a regular patron ...well the fact that he was concious(sp) enought to sign the reciepts should say somthing
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    The judges seem to take it out on the dancers and not the customer who decided to "get these services". As if the dancer providing the dances is worse than the person PAYING for them... ???

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    i have guys try and dipute charges on credit cards all the time. the club i work out complains if we ask for too high of a tip on a credit card. men will try and dispute the tips, as they tell us. it's probably a bunch of bulllshit.
    the manager at my club suspended me because i asked for a $50 tip up front. i ask for all my tips before the service, some guys will try and dick you for a tip. i try to get everyone for a tip in a room. i even make people pre pay for lap dance tips as well as the money for the lapper $20.
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    Being a customer I'd be offended if I was asked for a tip, especially for a specific amount.



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    I don't mind being informed of the expected tip beforehand, but, demanding that amount in advance would bother me as a customer. Tips, afterall are based on merit.

    FYI: I have never not tipped the pre-suggested amount, OTOH, I have never tiped more than that amount either.
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    I smell a rat...the last guy only took a couple of days/weeks. It seems to me that this guy thinks that because he has a high bill...that he can now jump into the sue pot and get his money back. If his signature is on the receipt, then he's out of luck. If I was the judge, I would say, "Chalk it up, dipshit. You were too drunk? Then learn your limit. Case dismissed."
    You're absolutely right about smelling a rat. However, the way things are stacking up, I'll bet that the judge isn't going to simply dismiss this lawsuit any more than the $28,000 previous lawsuit.

    The reason for this is that the guy who previously sued for $28,000 is not just some tourist or stockbroker, but is the US Chief Financial Officer for a huge worldwide financial services company Swiss Re. His company alone probably does billions of dollars per year in business with companies that have American Express corporate accounts as well as with American Express directly. This guy has LEVERAGE - with American Express itself !

    Now, if a local judge dismisses these Scores cases and these guys get stuck with the bills from Scores, it absolves Scores of any wrongdoing from a legal standpoint. This will mean that these guys will wind up paying their bills or suing American Express directly instead of the club. But if a judge rules that there WAS wrongdoing on the part of the club, then both these guys and American Express get out of having to 'eat' these charges, and Scores will have to make good on them i.e. take the loss. These guys have the money and the corporate attorneys to appeal this matter as far as they must to obtain a court ruling showing wrongdoing on the part of Scores ! And having multiple cases filed by unrelated customers alleging the same wrongdoing on the part of Scores essentially creates a possible pattern of wrongdoing which weakens Scores position in the mind of any jury (with most jury members hating strip club and dancers in the first place).

    Perhaps more importantly, these lawsuits and the publicity raised has already resulted in Scores having their American Express merchant account shut down - meaning that Scores can no longer process AmEx card charges for future customers. This is going to put a major dent in the 3 piece suit upscale business crowd that comprises a significant fraction of Scores customer base.

    Even worse, these lawsuits will very probably cause American Express to re-evaluate their interpretation of upscale strip clubs being 'straight business' as opposed to adult businesses. Adult businesses like websites, bookstores, massage parlors etc. are considered by all credit card companies to be 'high risk' - to the point where AmEx never allowed adult businesses to obtain credit card merchant accounts in the first place and where Visa and MasterCard charged adult businesses very high processing fees (leading to the 20% funny money discount for example). It's distinctly possible that AmEx will decide to reclassify as 'high risk' and pull the credit card merchant accounts of ALL strip clubs as a result of these lawsuits, which would also cause other upscale clubs like PEC to lose their ability to process customer AmEx charges.

    This possibility would profoundly change the business model of upscale strip clubs, as very few customers are going to walk into a strip club with more than a couple of grand in cash. The risk of an incident in the club/parking lot is too great - not to mention the mandatory IRS cash transaction reports generated when large amounts of cash are withdrawn or spent (the cash reporting limit in New York is $3,000), or the fact that paying cash would mean that the 3 piece suit corporate club customer would have to show thousands of dollars spent at a strip club on his corporate expense report (which would never make it past corporate accountants).

    Also, Visa and MasterCard already have policies in place which make it next to impossible for a cardholder to charge more than a couple of grand without requiring a verification phone call from MasterCard/Visa and verbal permission from the cardholder BEFORE the charge will be processed so that the club can receive their money. Clubowners being required to call a customer to the phone to grant verbal permission to MasterCard/Visa before being allowed to make a trip to the Champagne Room will definitely put a huge crimp in upscale club action.

    AmEx was basically the only high roller's credit card where a 3 piece suit type could spend $10,000+ on a corporate card without being considered a potential criminal and being given the 3rd degree before charges can be made - and that's now history for Scores and very likely also soon to be history for every other upscale strip club.



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