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    that's what they get!!! i'm sure the NYC girls have seen the scandal involving the 28,000 (i think exact #?) to his card. . the guy said he did'nt charge that much. . . i belive American Express, ate the charge. . . and today i heard that they will not let their customers use it at Scores. . . (90% of the corp people use them for clients) yeah!!! for all of the other clubs. . . we get all of the guys who cannot use it there now. . . more money for us!

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    LOL. Poor Scores.
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    Heard on Howard Stern, the guy mentioned has been in Scores several times since that incident. Stern interviewed the mgr on the phone. When he came in, before he said he wanted the girls to be tipped upwards of thousands. Just what I heard, this past Fri.


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    This might turn out to be a "Phyrric Victory" for PEC in the long run. Credit Card processing services had already classified adult businesses in general as being 'high risk' for chargebacks, refunds, and disputed charges, mostly due to online adult websites. American Express has NEVER issued Credit Card merchant accounts for adult businesses, but they did allow certain upscale strip clubs to obtain Credit Card merchant accounts as if they were 'straight' businesses.

    However, this recent incident with Scores (a supposedly very high class business) and the CFO of a huge international bank (who is suing to avoid paying $28,000 in supposedly bogus charges by Scores, and whose international bank probably does several billion dollars worth of business per year with American Express corporate card accounts) may very well leverage American Express to reclassify all strip clubs as 'adult businesses' right along with websites, book stores, massage parlors etc.

    As a result, it's distinctly possible that ALL strip clubs will wind up losing their American Express credit card merchant accounts as they come up for renewal. Ironically, this would mean that clubs such as PEC and other upscale strip clubs would lose the ability to process American Express charges as well, driving away a large portion of the 3 piece suit customer base. Scores may indeed have screwed it up for every other strip club in North America right along with itself !

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    In my opinion it serves them right. Certain practices that go on at that club are just plain wrong. That is a shit load of money to in my opinion scam from a customer. This club is really digging a nice hole for themselves. No guy in their right mind would want to get here after hearing about these incidents. And of course they will end up elsewhere most likely PEC.

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    Well yes it's true we are not accepting american express cards but this is scores choice and I'm not sure how long it will last, I've lost money since the last 3 weeks because of that and so one night I just went to the manager and comlpain that here's a good client of mine which follows me to every club and is from out of town and so they allowed it for just 1hour for the private room and so the next hour his friend paid. That first hour was allowed out of curtesy. ( if we were banned it would never happened ) However I do have another client who drops $52,000 in just one night at Vip and will be back ( girls if you know me you know who he is and the 10 girls I took in the room ) so I'm talking to the owner and I also said if they don't allow it, I'll have to go to another club. I told them what ever the situation is might be worth to pay off Amex. Lots of client are upset about this. I do have an online business with my own merchant accounts plus amex and as of 2002 visa and master are asking for rediculous amount of money for your merchant account. I feel strongly that the IRS is puting pressure on the credit card companys in regards to adult entertainments ( clubs & website ) to track incomes and so the credit card company put pressure on merchant account. For the record in spite of the bad press scores been having in the paper and on TV, business is still good weather you dance on the floor or go to private room. The club was so packed last night that they were charging $50 at the door just to enter. The best part was I banked $$$ made all cash and the IRS can kiss my ass.........
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    I think this is bullshit. The credit card companies threw out the claims on both this and the 130k assholes, and now that they file lawsuits and get publicity they backtrack and freeze Scores' processing account? That is utter BULLSHIT. I hope both the asswipes filing lawsuits get assraped repeatedly by Bubba the Butt Pirate and have pics of the events pasted all over the internet.

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    LOL I just saw the post above mine, saying Scores let an Amex charge pass so their merchant account must not be frozen. But I still hope Bubba the Butt Pirate pays the two lawsuit asswipes a visit and brings his photographer friend! Or wait, maybe this would be a better remedy!

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    OOOPS!, they did it AGAIN!

    http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-172435c.html

    A 129G Scores to settle

    By HELEN PETERSON
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    A second big spender has sued Scores, charging the East Side strip club slammed him with a whopping $129,000 tab for a night of drinks and X-rated "services."
    Tauhidul Chaudhury, the husband of a Bangladeshi diplomat, contends bartenders and strippers plied him with drinks during a seven-hour spree, took him to a private champagne room and bilked him for enough to buy a small apartment.

    Worst of all, he doesn't remember a minute of the fun.

    "He soon became clearly and obviously intoxicated," Chaudhury's lawsuit charges. "Scores took advantage of his ... resulting impairment and continually charged at least four different credit cards."

    The suit was filed on May 27, just a week after reports that an insurance executive charged Scores foisted a fake $28,000 bill on him.

    Scores said it will not comment on Chaudhury's case because it has not seen the allegations.

    "If we get served with court papers, we'll issue a statement," said Lonnie Hanover, a spokesman for the club.

    Chaudhury's night of big fun started with a trip to the famed flesh emporium with three buddies around 9 p.m. The pals left at 11 p.m., but Chaudhury kept the party going strong for another five hours in a private room, according to his lawsuit.

    The strip club spread the six-figure bill over four different credit cards, Chaudhury contends.

    Chaudhury said he does not remember anything and the club refused to clue him in. "Scores did not explain what had actually occurred," the suit says.

    But the club has his signatures on all four bills and credit card companies refused Chaudhury's request to cancel the charges. "They did not find reason to decline the payments," Chaudhury told thesmokinggun.com.

    Originally published on June 4, 2004

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    If you wantto read them, the Smoking Gun web site has both lawsuits:

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...41scores1.html
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    I wouldn't be so thrilled about this if I were you. It could have easily been your club

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    im not gloating. . . and for your info. . i have seen PEC credit money back if something is wrong. . . they make a point of not being like SCORES. . .

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    I'm just pointing out that can happen to any club.

    At my favorite club a guy got 10 grand in funny money and gave most of it to a new dancer . Then a few days later he protested the charges . This club took drivers Lic info and thumbprints on every $2,500, so it was in fact later proven in court that he ok-ed the charges, but it made us "too high risk" for the credit line our funny money ran on.The dancer got paid but we lost our funny money after that which sucked because guys always spend funny money faster .


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    yes poor us.. it figures i finally go to work at scores and last week i deff lost at least 1500 b/c of it

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    So have the boys with the Black cards been going to PEC in droves yet? I would. Nothing wrong with getting a few Membership Rewards points for time spent in the Champagne Room.

    It's unfair that a few wankers have buyer's remorse and try to ruin it for others though. I'm very curious to see how this will affect the bottom line at Scores. Unfortunately, I believe it'll hurt the dancers more than the owners.
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    well the fact that they haven't gotten their merchant account suspended by Amex and have voluntarily been refusing Amex charges could just mean that they are trying to protect themselves from "copycats" who would come into Scores after hearing all the other press about disputed charges, rack up a huge bill, and then claim that they were taken advantage of. The club is probably just going to wait until all the press dies down and some time has gone by before returning to business as usual. It's a shame that dancers are going to lose out on money in the meantime though.

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    Whether or not Scores AmEx merchant account is frozen or they voluntarily stopped accepting AmEx (which frankly I find hard to believe, since the club stands to lose way more in lost business and lost customer good will than the lawsuits are worth by refusing to accept customer AmEx cards - 100 customers per night * $1000 typical bill * 3 nights so far = $300,000 !), it ultimately boils down the the same result. Some customers will go to different clubs instead of Scores and take their AmEx cards with them. Other customers will still go to Scores but will spend less, since they'll either have to risk bringing cash or they'll have to deal with MasterCard and Visa security procedures once they try to charge over $1000. Either way the dancers are the big losers, since the club still collects customer cover charges, bar and restaurant charges etc. (which dancers don't share in), since the club collects the same stage fees from dancers, and since the club still collects the same champagne room charge from whatever customers are still spending money to use it.

    It's unfair that a few wankers have buyer's remorse and try to ruin it for others though. I'm very curious to see how this will affect the bottom line at Scores. Unfortunately, I believe it'll hurt the dancers more than the owners.
    My fear is that, like adult website credit card merchant accounts, all of the bad publicity and legal action that AmEx is now taking over these disputed charges may start them thinking about simply reclassifying strip clubs as high risk "adult businesses" to avoid future incidents. This could have profound implications which extend way beyond just the Scores club in NYC.

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    Diplomatic immunity???

    and how about those $5,000 tips???

    From Friday's New York Post:

    OUT WITH A BANG
    By DAREH GREGORIAN

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    June 11, 2004 -- Tauhidul Chaudhury will likely be staying in the doghouse when he gets back to Bangladesh.
    His high-spending high jinks at an East Side strip club — which landed him a whopping $129,000 credit card bill — have reportedly gotten his wife recalled from her post at the United Nations.

    "You are to return to Dhaka immediately, leaving your present responsibility," the Bangladeshi Foreign Affairs ministry said in a statement sent to Chaudhury's wife, Faied Meen Tasneem, this week, the BBC reported.

    Tasneem had been working as a senior consular official for Bangladesh's permanent mission to the United Nations and living in government housing.

    The statement said the recall was being done on behalf of "the public interest."

    "We know that Ms. Tasneem is a bright diplomat," a Bangladesh Foreign Ministry spokesman told the BBC. "It is unfortunate that she is paying the price for the misconduct of her husband, who also enjoys diplomatic facilities."

    Officials at the mission at the United Nations could not be reached for comment.

    Chaudhury's supposed spending spree at Scores made international headlines last week, after he filed suit against the East 60th Street club claiming they'd taken advantage of his drunkenness last October by running up his credit card bills.

    Despite "Chaudhury's obviously intoxicated state and resulting mental impairment, and knowing that he could not comprehend his surroundings, Scores . . . continued to supply Chaudhury with alcoholic beverages and other services throughout the night," said the suit, which sought to get his cash back on the grounds the club couldn't "in good conscience" keep his money.

    Scores countered that he knew exactly what he was doing — "partying like a potentate."

    They said the entire bill was legitimate — and included tips of $5,000 each to the 15 strippers he was getting down with in the club's "Presidential Room" which also cost $5,000.

    The club also said he's been back since the skin spree. Chaudhury's lawyer didn't return calls for comment. A message left at Chaudhury's New York apartment was not returned.

    The action was the second overcharging suit to be filed against Scores recently.

    Mitchell Blaser, an executive at insurance giant Swiss Re, sued the club last month charging it had added $26,000 to what should have been a $2,000 bill. The club maintains he spent $28,000 — and "partied like a rock star."

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    Okay the truth is Tauhidul was having the time of his life and an adult. No one forced him, he used 4 different credit cards and signed them clearly. He parted like a potentate for his own ego and at the hope of someone else expence.... ( business expense account but wasn't approved ) Have you heard about a former recent situation where 4 brokers had lunch at an upscale restaurant and had 4 bottles of wine which each bottle cost $4,000 or something like that can't remember exactly..... however their notorious bill was over $250,000 just for lunch, well not only did they loose their expense account but also their jobs and reputation. Tauhidul Chaudhury business expense account wasn't approved for this bill, so now it comes from his pocket...he's dumb as hell filing a lawsuit and so it became public knowledge internationally. Now his wife is recalled from her position at the united nations and is publicly humiliated. This makes me think of Marth Stewart... ( I love her by the way ) if only she had just settle for the stock loss but instead she end up loosing millions plus headaches, tv show, jail time, respect and public humiliation. Tauhidul Chaudhury has been back to scores 4 other times since that night in October 2003 partying some more because he had such a great time on previous visits.
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    hi diva.. i work on the west side.. thank you for explaining it from someone who actually knows whats up


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    As for all the gloaters about American Express Merchant account been freeze. The facts are it's not as stated by Sitara7817 American Express, ate the charge. . . The truth is Mitchell Blaser & Jerry Flaxman ran up a tab of $28,021.06 on the evening of 12/11/03 and disputed the charges with amex. and said his bill was $8,615 with tip of $4000 and claimed to spend less, however I wasn't there but this I know is that american express credit some of the money back and this is the real business scores no longer wants to do business with american express period. The drinks were not free neither was anyone's services.
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    Diva, I hope you didn't think that anyone was gloating over this AmEx matter - fact is, regardless of the real behind the scenes dealings, it's bad for Scores dancers, it's bad for Scores, and it's bad for American Express. While it might be possible to think at other Manhattan clubs like PEC might benefit from Scores misfortune in the short term, in the long term this could have ramifications for ALL strip clubs which have AmEx merchant accounts including PEC.

    With that said, I still have a hard time accepting that Scores management would willingly decide to turn away tens of thousands of dollars worth of AmEx customer charges every single day just because they wound up taking a couple of high profile AmEx losses. But I grant you that strip club owners have been known to make illogical business decisions on more than one occasion in the past (gift for understatement ?), so I guess I shouldn't be surprised if Scores management has decided to voluntarily stop accepting AmEx charges. After all, it is undoubtedly the Scores dancers who are bearing the brunt of the lost AmEx business as a result of Scores decision to voluntarily stop accepting AmEx cards, with the club's losses being much lower than the dancers' losses in dollar terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie link=board=4;threadid=9863;start=msg123496#msg1234 96 date=1087430458
    fact is, regardless of the real behind the scenes dealings, it's bad for Scores dancers, it's bad for Scores, and it's bad for American Express. While it might be possible to think at other Manhattan clubs like PEC might benefit from Scores misfortune in the short term, in the long term this could have ramifications for ALL strip clubs which have AmEx merchant accounts including PEC.
    This is I agree with and if you gloaters had a brain you'd take in consideration other Manhattan clubs might benefit from Scores misfortune in the SHORT TERM, in the LONG TERM this could have ramifications for ALL strip clubs which have AmEx merchant accounts and can cause lots of charged backs with other credit cards as well with other customers using the same accusation because they enjoyed a dance and wanted more but did not get because after all we are dancers not whores. No extras here. Not scores policy. Girls! how many times has a customer asked you? " so what I'm I geting in the private room"?........ :o or do they tell you in details what they want or what they'll like to do with you. How handsy they get, how you keep them in controll. Girls been fired for reacting in an unprofessional way as well as breaking the rules. Did you know about the situation where the customer attack a dancer in the private room at Penthouse? He was choking her!!!......... :o :o :o
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    Im not gloating about the situation. . . when an exclamation point is used. . .its refering to shock. . .not "gloating". . .and i dont like scores. . .BECAUSE they are cheats and theives. . .i know. . i USED to work there. . . and as far as the rumor about "a guy was choking her". . .i don't want to sound like i now it all, but that has to be a rumor proliferated by someone at Scores. . . against coming over to us. . . i did not hear anything about it. . . and i hear everything. . . (not saying im miss know it all, for those of you who like to make comments!) but everyone talks. . the host, managers. . and of course dancers. . i know who fucked, sucked. . and then get fired for doing it. . . . .

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    I have a lot of friends at PEC and go there myself. I too
    heard about this supposed "choking" incident. All that
    really happened was a dancer/customer dispute where
    the customer was "assisted" in leaving by the bouncers.
    Nobody got violent; nobody got hurt. As with at least
    90 % of what you hear in and around the skin biz. this
    also was totally untrue and/or a gross exageration.

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