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    I saw a post a while ago about managers selling dancers' personal information. While it sounds like it would be rare, it really freaks me out. Incidentally, I also saw an episode of Boomtown a while ago with a similar 'obsessed customer tracks down husband and kills him' theme. I should just stop watching tv. Anyway, I know it's something that would probably never happen, but I'm wrestling with myself on whether the possibility is even worth the risk. I presume much to think that a customer might become obsessed with me, but still... I really want to dance and I've been planning on it, but every once in a while this pops into my head and scares the hell out of me. I mean, it's one thing to do something that you enjoy purely for yourself. But when that thing you enjoy puts your family at risk, you shouldn't be doing it. Of course I could argue the same for riding a motorcycle or joy-riding or hunting or pretty much anything, but it's still kind of a blurry line. And, even if you pick a nice club with decent management, I still think everybody has their price. And I know there are a lot of 'IFs' - IF a customer takes a liking, IF they want more information, IF the manager is corruptible, IF the customer has a lot of money, IF the manager then becomes corruptible, IF the customer is particularly deranged... It's a slim chance that all those hypotheticals would line up, but IF (lol) they did and some weirdo showed up on my doorstep, no matter how long I'd been dancing or how much fun I had or how much $$ I made, it just wouldn't have been worth it. On that note, what information is normal for a club to have on file? I saw a 'dancer application' for a club I'd like to audition at - the kind of thing you print out and bring with you when you talk to the manager and there was a line for SSN. Do they really expect me to hand that over before I even get on stage, let alone hired? Is that a normal practice? That's the only thing that gave me any pause about that club...

    Another thought, more playful than a serious concern: What happens if your mailman becomes a customer or something like that? You see him everyday, he knows your address, etc. It's kind of frightening...

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    Um...you stated in the "being the other woman" thread that you already ARE a dancer.
    ?? I dont know if this is a joke, or whatever, but its silly if it is.

    Anyway, I haven't heard of any clubs around here doing that and I am almost 100% sure it wouldnt happen at any of the clubs I work in.

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    Whoa!Where did you here that?This is the 21st century.We have become a sue happy society.What you stated is IMPOSSIBLE.
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    One more thing.You should never let anyone alter the way you live your life,no matter what.
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    Default Re:How much of a concern is this?

    you see your mailman? i don't even know if mine's a man or a woman.

    depending on the club, btw, you may not have to fill all that information out. my club doesn't even have some girls' phone numbers, let alone their ssn.

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    I've never heard of this happening, but the chances are only as high as the chances that your phone company will sell your information, or that someone could get your personal information from a credit card transaction online. That is, it is entirely possible that it could happen. The simple fact is that this is not a time in life where we can remain truly anonymous. All you can do is try your best and hope for the best. It's not worth losing sleep over. Given your profession, the chances of "running into someone" who will know you is very high. An old teacher...the mailman...a business associate...it's gonna happen.

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    Default Re:How much of a concern is this?

    You're way more likely to get folowed home than to have that happen.

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    Dallas here...In 18 years, I have never had any problems with being followed home or stalked. My club is very protective of us. It is very wise to be cautious but not to the point of altering your life for it!
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    There will always be stories - some of them true, like the girl that danced here in Philly whose crazed customer killed his own family to be with her after he BKed himself and the other girl from Philly whose customer killed her and they found her body in his trunk.
    You also have the stories of the derranged babysitter obsessed with her married male employer that tries to off hs wfe, the doctor that tries to off his family for a patient, etc. you hear them all the time.
    There are some whackos out there, in ANY business.
    I agree with Dallas - I have been around for over 10 years and security in clubs is always HIGH, so I believe we have more protection from stalking customers than the average person.

    Oh yea, Posted by: Lexi Posted on: Today at 12:06:15am
    Um...you stated in the "being the other woman" thread that you already ARE a dancer.
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    Lexi,
    No. Not a joke. And not yet a dancer. I've done auditions and amateur nights and stuff, but I could never convince myself to keep doing it after that. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

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    Well, I'm home al day with my kids so I always see the mailman. And everyday without fail, the slamming of the mailbox scares the scrap out of me...

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    Yeah, I guess anyone could sell your information. I hadn't really thought about it. I just figured it would be worse with the perceived intimacy. I think I can write it off more easily now. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smittenkitten link=board=27;threadid=9891;start=msg118863#msg118 863 date=1086587369
    I saw a post a while ago about managers selling dancers' personal information.
    Do you think you could find this thread and post the link? I'd be interested in seeing it. But I've never heard of a manager selling or giving a girls private info.

    I see my mailman almost every day too. I don't think too many customers are the stalking type. Sure they're there, but most of them don't behave that way. I suppose if the mailman did start to stalk you, the postal service would have a hell of a lawsuit on their hands.


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    Just to be on the safe side, I give the clubs my P.O. box adress, and my cell phone #.

    Just for giggles try going to google and typing in your (or someone you know) land line phone #. All of your personal information comes up, and it isn't too big of a strech to map a route to your house from there.

    Call me paranoid, but I even quit using checks to purchase things as most stores want a physical address on the check for purchase. I just use my check card now. My driver's license has my P.O. box listed, however the DMV does have my home address even though the one listed on the DL is my old physcial adress (you have to list a physical adress on any DL here in Oregon.)

    Tracking me down would be a little harder than it would be with most people, but it would probably take an investigator an extra 5 minutes to find me over someone who has their information out there in a non paraniod fashion.

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    Hmm... That PO Box thing is a good idea. I used to have one and always thought it was a pain in the ass, but our address was screwy for other reasons, too...

    Lilac,
    Hmm... I looked for the post that I thought I was talking about and all I could find was a thread about drugging drinks ("Don't slip me a Mickey"). There was one post about a customer paying off the bartender to put something in the drink. I think I must've remembered it wrong... Makes me feel a little better about the personal information thing, but feeling pretty stupid for getting it so screwed up in my memory. Anyway, you can check out that post if you're interested. There's a similar one on the next page (or maybe two pages later)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smittenkitten link=board=27;threadid=9891;start=msg118863#msg118 863 date=1086587369
    I saw a 'dancer application' for a club I'd like to audition at - the kind of thing you print out and bring with you when you talk to the manager and there was a line for SSN.
    Okay, I'm not trying to be mean, but I do want to be frank for a second. Between this post and the one about being the other woman, I am wondering why you are still considering dancing at all. If you want to dance, why not try hip/hop or jazz? Why bother with stripping if you have so many hang-ups about it? It's a tough business sometimes and going into it with so many fears isn't getting off to a good start.

    Also, the club I work for doesn't even have an application for the dancers, just waitresses, bouncers, etc. They took a copy of my ID and that was it. No phone number, SSN, anything.

    Good luck!

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    I'm with all of the above...it would be a rare thing indeed for anyone in management to sell a dancer's information, assuming they had it. The bigger danger is giving away too much information yourself. I used to be a skip tracer, and I've generally got enough information to stalk any girl quite successfully after a 15 minute conversation. I say make up a wholy different "outside" personality to go along with your "inside" personality...that way when you get those inevitable questions you've got somebody to talk about (builds the illusion of intimacy without the danger of weirdos).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smittenkitten link=board=27;threadid=9891;start=msg119073#msg119 073 date=1086630915
    Lexi,
    No. Not a joke. And not yet a dancer. I've done auditions and amateur nights and stuff, but I could never convince myself to keep doing it after that. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
    Gotcha...

    Anyway, most clubs wouldnt do this. IF they do, you will have a huge lawsuit to file, that I am sure.

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    Anonymous1 - Well, I didn't really say what I wanted to in that god-forsaken post. But I was also kinda thinking that maybe trying to become what made me insecure would make it better. Backwards, I know. I've thought about it a lot and I now see that I have to change on my own before I can expect to survive in that environment and if I go into it already feeling insecure that it will only make me more so. Now I'm thinking that I'll set my goals and maybe use dancing to celebrate my achievements of them... or maybe not dance at all... Keep bouncing back and forth. It was just a matter of thinking I was at a point psychologically that I wasn't. Now I'm trying to get there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by devotee link=board=27;threadid=9891;start=msg119618#msg119 618 date=1086723000
    I'm with all of the above...it would be a rare thing indeed for anyone in management to sell a dancer's information, assuming they had it. The bigger danger is giving away too much information yourself. I used to be a skip tracer, and I've generally got enough information to stalk any girl quite successfully after a 15 minute conversation. I say make up a wholy different "outside" personality to go along with your "inside" personality...that way when you get those inevitable questions you've got somebody to talk about (builds the illusion of intimacy without the danger of weirdos).
    This is probably me just being an idiot, but what is a skip tracer? And by this concept of outside and inside personality and having someone to talk about, does that mean that I should fake an additional relationship, or just talk about my real husband when the issue arises? Stalking from a fifteen minute conversation? LOL, THAT does NOT make me feel any better...

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    your posts in this thread make it seem like you want to be in a lifetime channel movie. seriously. quit being so paranoid. if you get stalked, it'll probably happen despite taking every precaution. but then, it probably won't happen at all.

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