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    Feature Devon Michaels told me that when she goes to explain prices she says "a couch dance is a minimum...$$. That leaves it open for tipping or future dances, just make sure you clearify what you will and wont do in the VIP
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    LunaMaiden: A friend of mine works at a club where the customer buys "chips" that go to the dancer so management knows how many private (non-lap) dances she sells in an evening. So in essence the customer pre-pays for the dance. When I went there I didn't get the impression that post-dance tips were expected, nor was I asked for one. I gave one each time anyways (because I thought the dances were good).
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    This is a (as lifted from the local SC board) commentary (not mine) on the approach that one dancer at the local SC uses to solicit tips. It's not an exaggeration. I did post this on another thread, but it seems to fit better here. Her approach has caused me to avoid her since my one encounter, even though, as the gentleman says, she's that good.


    I recommend snatching up Alicia quickly if she's available, and I recommend walking away from her quickly when you're done. Things never end well with Alicia. She tries to needle you for more money at the end and if she can't intimidate you into a "tip" her attitude shifts into the piss poor range. This saves me money, because if her attitude was good I might actually tip her. She's that good. Now I just wait for her to forget who I am again. Which should be right about....... wait for it....... now. It's an interesting study, really. One kind of guy is going there for a fantasy experience, and in his fantasy the beautiful girl puts up with him and it's important that they part company smiling. So he'll feel compelled to tip when it's demanded of him. Another kind of guy, he goes there for the product, and if once it's already delivered she holds him up at gunpoint (or titpoint) for a tip, that lessens his gratitude and he laughs off the gratuity. But--and this is a big butt that slams down onto you until the truth is told--if you asked who made the most money that night the chances are good it'd be Alicia. She was always hustling, doing hot dances in visible places as a way to sell more dances. Guys were taking tickets to be next in line at one point. Now serving #27. In other words she does her job exquisitely well. She even ran off during our dances to get the extra money she'd hustled from the last guy, now that he'd had a chance to use the ATM. No lie. Now that's commitment to excellence! Not just anyone would have had the ovaries to ask for extra dinero after doing that.
    Of course, the question for me has always been "tip or buy more dances?"

    But, in the end the approach does make a difference.
    "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

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    If the club is fairly busy and a customer fuckoe's most of my times but only gets 2-3 dances, I WILL kindly encourage a tip. Hasn't affected future earnings at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverback link=board=9;threadid=10020;start=msg132887#msg132 887 date=1088914743
    This is a (as lifted from the local SC board) commentary (not mine) on the approach that one dancer at the local SC uses to solicit tips. It's not an exaggeration. I did post this on another thread, but it seems to fit better here. Her approach has caused me to avoid her since my one encounter, even though, as the gentleman says, she's that good.

    I recommend snatching up Alicia quickly if she's available, and I recommend walking away from her quickly when you're done. Things never end well with Alicia. She tries to needle you for more money at the end and if she can't intimidate you into a "tip" her attitude shifts into the piss poor range. This saves me money, because if her attitude was good I might actually tip her. She's that good. Now I just wait for her to forget who I am again. Which should be right about....... wait for it....... now. It's an interesting study, really. One kind of guy is going there for a fantasy experience, and in his fantasy the beautiful girl puts up with him and it's important that they part company smiling. So he'll feel compelled to tip when it's demanded of him. Another kind of guy, he goes there for the product, and if once it's already delivered she holds him up at gunpoint (or titpoint) for a tip, that lessens his gratitude and he laughs off the gratuity. But--and this is a big butt that slams down onto you until the truth is told--if you asked who made the most money that night the chances are good it'd be Alicia. She was always hustling, doing hot dances in visible places as a way to sell more dances. Guys were taking tickets to be next in line at one point. Now serving #27. In other words she does her job exquisitely well. She even ran off during our dances to get the extra money she'd hustled from the last guy, now that he'd had a chance to use the ATM. No lie. Now that's commitment to excellence! Not just anyone would have had the ovaries to ask for extra dinero after doing that.
    Of course, the question for me has always been "tip or buy more dances?"

    But, in the end the approach does make a difference.
    This so illustrates what I mean. No matter how good a hustler a gal is, or how hot a dance she gives, being asked for a tip can put a sour coda on an otherwise great experience. If this gal is truly that good, I wonder how much better she would do if she would just drop the entitlement attitude.

    Knowing me, if I had no experience of the way this gal worked, and I got some incredible dances from her, I'd probably tack on an extra ten bucks before she'd have the opportunity to stick her foot in her mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish link=board=9;threadid=10020;start=msg132906#msg132 906 date=1088916294
    Knowing me, if I had no experience of the way this gal worked, and I got some incredible dances from her, I'd probably tack on an extra ten bucks before she'd have the opportunity to stick her foot in her mouth.
    She is that good. But, unless your draw is more like Doc Holiday's, you would not get the tip to her before she begins badgering. And before you can even pay for the dances, any enjoyment you might have gotten from the dances has been counteracted by the attack. She seems to do quite well. The sad thing is that she might not do better with a better attitude. She moves like a well oiled predator, as it is. Like I said, I avoid her, but there's plenty who don't.
    "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

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    Aye, as I've stated before, it kind of depresses me when I look at it like this:
    Most of the guys at the club won't be back for awhile, they may come every few months or maybe they're traveling and I'll never see them again. Most of the other girls ask for a $20 tip so they make $30 per dance. I never do, and it varies but let's say every guy doesn't tip, I made $10.
    It's quite likely that at the end of a shift, I will make $100 from the 10 dances I did, while otherdancer makes $300.
    Do I make any regulars that appreciate the fact I don't harass them? hasn't happened yet. So part of me thinks "why bother?"
    Your Alicia probably thinks the same way, this guy probably won't be seen again, why bother being extra-nice?

    [btw, very unlikely I'm gonna start asking for tips, I just need to gripe every so often]
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    I usually mention the tip with the price of the dance.. "it's $X plus whatever you'd like to tip me" and then I forget it. The champagne host, at the end of a champagne room, will be like, "do you want more time? okay, I hafta get you guys out then. If you'd like to tip her I'd appreciate it." Of course, I share with him. If I think a customer is honestly just forgetting or whatever, I'll kind of prompt by being like, "so how'd I do? That was great, right?" But if they don't get the hint, I'm not going to hit them over the head with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Maiden link=board=9;threadid=10020;start=msg133746#msg133 746 date=1089106759
    Aye, as I've stated before, it kind of depresses me when I look at it like this:
    Most of the guys at the club won't be back for awhile, they may come every few months or maybe they're traveling and I'll never see them again. Most of the other girls ask for a $20 tip so they make $30 per dance. I never do, and it varies but let's say every guy doesn't tip, I made $10.
    It's quite likely that at the end of a shift, I will make $100 from the 10 dances I did, while otherdancer makes $300.
    Do I make any regulars that appreciate the fact I don't harass them? hasn't happened yet. So part of me thinks "why bother?"
    Your Alicia probably thinks the same way, this guy probably won't be seen again, why bother being extra-nice?

    [btw, very unlikely I'm gonna start asking for tips, I just need to gripe every so often]
    You're right Luna Maiden, Alicia doesn't bother being extra-nice. Also, as the gentleman's original post suggested, she doesn't ever seem to have any memory of having ever seen a customer prior to that particular approach. But, it just so ruins the fantasy to have a dancer turn into a 125 pound lamprey that you have to pry off your wallet with a crow bar.

    And did I read correctly? The girls you work with are getting (or expecting) $20 tips for each $10 dance. I would think 200% tipping would be pretty unusual.

    And for what it's worth (which I suppose is nothing ), I certanly prefer the non-shark dancers.

    "He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!"

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    Didn't explain that right, the dances are $20 but the house takes 1/2, so the dancer makes $10 per dance without tip. Dancers ask for a $20 tip, so the guy is paying $40 and the girl keeps $30.
    Granted, if the customer buys 3 dances and he tips $20 [thereby paying $80] the girl isn't going to complain or anything.
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    I don't ask for tips after a dance typically (unless the guy was extremely rude or did something terrible). Sometimes a customer throws in a $20-40 tip (after a couple of dances), and I appreciate every dollar. I get to keep all 20 bucks for each dance, and one club raised the price to 30 (house keeping 10), so in that circumstance it would be a bit much to expect a tip.

    However, if the guys are not tipping at the stage, I playfully suggest that if they put a dollar down, they'll get a good show. a $5, even better.

    It depends on the guy and the circumstance. I don't expect a tip, but when it happens, it make my day.

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