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    Default Re:what do you do in the vip room??? rant

    Of course it's logical to ask what goes on in the VIP room. I thought all sorts of kinky stuff was done in VIP's at a certain San Juan club till I got there. I mean, I enjoyed my VIP sessions BUT never got close to an extra there. It's just an half hour of dancing and drinks.



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    To be blunt - this isn't a date...it's a dance. You have a guy for whom you are half-naked...he's going to be turned on...and he's going to want to touch if he is allowed. Would you rather he groped and then apologized afterwards? They're asking what they're permitted to do. For those of us who do not ask, we are, of course, thinking about it. Fantasy Land really isn't what gets us going...we like Reality Land...and what we really want is for those two to come together. But when someone asks if he can get "more"...you can politely explain that he does not get anything else, and if he laughs or is otherwise rude, you can then walk on to the next guy. You're not going to please every single person in the room. Stick to your laurels (sp?) and move on.

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    Default Re:what do you do in the vip room??? rant

    I see everyone has a different opinion on this issue. We have 3 types of dancing at my club, 1 stage dancing (the tease) 2 table dances( the way to reel in the 3rd type) and 3 private dances( $30 a pop). I get that question all the time from customers who I ask for privates from. The 1st thing I always ask is if they have been here before or if they are not from the area. If they are not from here, I ask how are the dances where you are from? Then I can answer the question better, for example clubs in Fayetteville, Ak have very strict rules about dances stage or not. When you do a table/couch dance there you are on a little platform you do not touch the guy and it's strictly pasties/latex style topless. So if a guy is from there or somewhere where those rules are that style I can assure him that he will get a great deal. But for guys that are from a city(no names) where for $15 they get a BJ, they will get "ripped-off" in their opinion. If they have been there before (ie. I have seen them in the club before and know they have gotten dances before) I ask them is something "extra" such as touching my "cookie" or more what they had in mind? If they say yes exactly, them I politely tell them that while I am flattered that they think of my in such a sexual way; that is just not going to happen. I then follow up with but on the other hand I have never disapointed a gentleman with one of my dances. And if they are willing I would love to practice my exotic, erotic arts with them for even just one little song. It usually works but for the guys that it doesn't; I always have 2 absoulty sweet sexy bad-assed bouncers who are always more than willing to help a lady in distress. And if they don't like the dance then they wern't a gentleman in the 1st place. lol thanks guys for letting me rant for a little while on that topic!
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    Default Re:what do you do in the vip room??? rant

    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120867#msg120 867 date=1086954714
    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120812#msg120 812 date=1086943483
    who in the club is doing them?? I have never seen
    anything, BUT SOMEONE has to be doing them, right?
    Not necessarily. To paraphrase one of Melonie&#039;s favorite points, he just needs to have grown up watching TV and Hollywood films to know there&#039;s absolutely no difference between a strip club and a whorehouse.

    Some posters here and on SCL claim that some extras go on everywhere. I don&#039;t have any evidence of that, but even if it&#039;s so I doubt all the clowns who ask you are basing it on past experience (that one extras girl would never come out of the VIP and probably throw her jaw out of joint), they&#039;re just following the stereotype. Or maybe they know the stereotype isn&#039;t true and they&#039;re just being pigs.
    mmhmm. that or maybe they&#039;ve been to a club where there were extras. or maybe this is their first time back in tampa since the raids.

    or...maybe they want you to beg. seriously. i&#039;ve had far too many experiences where guys asked what it was like in whatever dance area...gave me shit about it being too expensive. these are the guys who know there&#039;s nothing there, but are trying to get you to promise them something or give them a good deal of some sort.

    either way, it doesn&#039;t mean that there&#039;s a girl in your club giving extras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlightgreenlight link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg122294#msg122 294 date=1087244388
    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120867#msg120 867 date=1086954714
    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120812#msg120 812 date=1086943483
    who in the club is doing them?? I have never seen
    anything, BUT SOMEONE has to be doing them, right?

    Not necessarily. To paraphrase one of Melonie&#039;s favorite points, he just needs to have grown up watching TV and Hollywood films to know there&#039;s absolutely no difference between a strip club and a whorehouse.

    Some posters here and on SCL claim that some extras go on everywhere. I don&#039;t have any evidence of that, but even if it&#039;s so I doubt all the clowns who ask you are basing it on past experience (that one extras girl would never come out of the VIP and probably throw her jaw out of joint), they&#039;re just following the stereotype. Or maybe they know the stereotype isn&#039;t true and they&#039;re just being pigs.
    mmhmm. that or maybe they&#039;ve been to a club where there were extras. or maybe this is their first time back in tampa since the raids.

    or...maybe they want you to beg. seriously. i&#039;ve had far too many experiences where guys asked what it was like in whatever dance area...gave me shit about it being too expensive. these are the guys who know there&#039;s nothing there, but are trying to get you to promise them something or give them a good deal of some sort.

    either way, it doesn&#039;t mean that there&#039;s a girl in your club giving extras.

    good point red light. Tampa is just known for high mileage

    But come to find out that there are 2 girls in specific said to do extras at this particular gentleman&#039;s club. It&#039;s a rumor i know, but from keeping my eyes open i have seen a bit myself.

    if you can make 1500 nightly in tampa, either you have skills or you do extras.

    And thats what they do.. im ok with it. I am just sick of customers EXPECTING it from me?!!!


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    Default Re:what do you do in the vip room??? rant

    My big upsell on the customers that I have a big "instant connection" with is more that I will now be able to spend time with them. Otherwise, I can sit and chat for a few minutes, but I am there to make money. I am also required to do my stage rotations if I am on the floor (not in VIP). So, if we are having a great conversation...then, I will use that to upsell the VIP. Otherwise, I&#039;ll get up and work the room, stop by and sit down talk for a few maybe do a dance chat for a minute more and then leave. I did that to one guy for the first half of the night...by midnight, I had him in VIP for 3 hours (great dancing and conversation) because he said he was getting frustrated that we would have a good conversation and I would get called to stage or need to make "more money". So, the VIP is not just for more intimacy, but it&#039;s also for being able to spend time with the dancer/customer that you really are enjoying.

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    I go to clubs with VIP/champagne rooms that run from $90/15 to the dancer/house for 15 minutes to $300/100 for an hour.

    I like slender, pretty "girl next door" types. During a lapdance and after, I&#039;ll talk with a dancer about what she likes to do in champagne. Her response tells me most of what I want to know.

    Attitude and NO/NOT words kill it for me. If she smiles and engages me in negotiation, she&#039;s on. If she says, "Tell me what YOU like; I just want to make you happy," she might be risky or just right. You just have to talk it over.

    I like playing with A/B boobs and semi-puffy nipples. I know scores of good girl types who don&#039;t consider that extra. One favorite actually felt slighted because I waited two months to suck her whole boob in.

    The "real" extras turn me off, but it&#039;s better to negotiate out of the deal beforehand than say "no thanks" in the middle of champagne. Offer me the cookie at any level and I&#039;d have to really like you first.

    I&#039;ve had attractive young dancers ask why I didn&#039;t want to "get into it" with them. Some of them feel insulted.

    My favorite champagne dancer ever was the one who did the least sexually (and never broke club rules), but she always made me feel special to her. She stopped dancing more than a year ago, but she&#039;s still a close friend and very low maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW2 link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg122728#msg122 728 date=1087330999

    I like playing with A/B boobs and semi-puffy nipples. I know scores of good girl types who don&#039;t consider that extra. One favorite actually felt slighted because I waited two months to suck her whole boob in.
    oh puke

    and sounds like a load of crap too

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    Default Re:what do you do in the vip room??? rant

    SpinKitty, you should read some Chili Palmer trip reports on the blue site. He tells it like it is. I turn down hardcore girls almost every time I go to a club.

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    The first time I went to a strip club, the dancer that I connected with suggested we go to VIP "so she could be a little more intimate" because we wouldn&#039;t be in public and we would be away from bouncers and management. I suppose if I were a more direct guy, a legitimate question would have been, "What exactly do you mean?" Because we&#039;re all too familiar with the empty-promise method of sales that goes on everywhere, not just strip clubs. (It didn&#039;t matter, because I didn&#039;t want to spend that much - but my client paid up and treated me - woo-hoo.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120812#msg120 812 date=1086943483
    OK. I HAVE A QUESTION!!!

    why do guys continuely ask for extras in a club that it is illegal to provide extras?

    who in the club is doing them?? I have never seen anything, BUT SOMEONE has to be doing them, right?

    i just dont understand!!

    ITS SO RUDE for a guy to say "so what do you do in the vip room?"

    some strippers under us they give us that name we don&#039;t deserve... some men do not have respect anymore because some dancers are doing a lot to get regular costumers. we had a girl int the club she was over 30 and made a lot of private dances, nobody understood WHY? and WHY SHE? because she was not a good dancer at all and not looking that special ....when we got camera&#039;s inside the private rooms we all knew WHY!!! because she was touching him and he her!

    I believe in every club all over the world you have that kind of dancers, when this kind of dancers shout make a normale dance...
    like us, they wil not make any dances anymore!

    If you have a costumer who like to touch just say to him "sorry but i am not that kind of a dancer and not that cheap! you wil not loose him believe me he wil treat you more with respect and wil understand that you are not a p*tana.... and will treat you like a women!
    I always say "sorry but i make my job wel and i don&#039;t have to let costumers touching me to make my money" if you like to take another dancer do it no problem" and they stil go with me for a private dance because i am strait and honest to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampafldancer link=board=9;threadid=10024;start=msg120812#msg120 812 date=1086943483
    ITS SO RUDE for a guy to say "so what do you do in the vip room?"
    I&#039;m joining the ranks in saying that this is a perfectly valid question, at least most of the time it is. There are times when this implies "extra" work, but not always. Guys who don&#039;t go to these clubs very often haven&#039;t got a clue what the advantage is in the VIP room. Look at it from this perspective. I was in a club the other night where they were charging $10 for lap dances all night. So you tell me, why should I go with you into the VIP room and pay $100 for three dances when I can teg TEN dances for the same price on the floor? What advantage is there to even thinking about going into the VIP room with a dancer under those circumstances? Most likely it is this question that your customer(s) need clarification on. There are many ways to sel the VIP room (without selling extras) even under this situation, and yet to do it requires more validation on the part of the dancer that it is worth it to make the sale.

    I think it&#039;s a perfectly valid question from a customer as to what is so special about going into the VIP room and pay almost double (or in some cases, more than triple) the price of a dance than he could get on the floor. It&#039;s no difference than the sales person at a car dealership explaining to their customer the reason why they need to buy that Mercedes Benz instead of the Lexus for the extra $40K even though they are both nice cars.

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    The next time a customer asks what you do I VIP tell him you make people happy and give a smile and a wink

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