And if so, what are the procedures?
I called Sapphires and spoke to some guy who said they hire many people who are non american citizens, but then my
question is , how would they obtain a sherrifs card?



And if so, what are the procedures?
I called Sapphires and spoke to some guy who said they hire many people who are non american citizens, but then my
question is , how would they obtain a sherrifs card?





They probably show the Sherriff's office their "green card".



Through talking to two girls tonight at work, I have learned that the "green card" is not the only way to get hired in Vegas if you arw a non citizen. One of the girls just came back to Toronto for the summer, but has worked in a higher end club in Vegas the last six months. Apparently, the club sponsers you to work,they have lawyers etc , which makes the process quite speedy. It took her four weeks from her initial interview to obtain her sherrifs card With that being said, hopefully things wont be so difficult.
Thats an interesting question. I had posted something similar a while back asking what the procedure is work in the US as a Canadian ,not Vegas in particular and had actually recieved a response from Melonie that it is not really possible due to the Patriot Act /taxes etc. If anybody were to know the answer though I would imagine the clubs would know best as I would imagine they have encountered this before. I am assuming that the biggest issue is the tax issue on both sides of the border. How did your friend do it, did you ask her? Please keep us posted what you find out....





Actually, the tax issue doesn't come into play at all until long afterwards. The big pain is the Patriot Act identification requirements and law which fines clubs heavily if they 'employ' illegal foreign workers (i.e. girls with foreign citizenship who do not have a 'green card' or US work visa for dancing).I am assuming that the biggest issue is the tax issue on both sides of the border
I can imagine some of the bigger clubs with more money/attorney power for processing temporary permits have the ability to issue, especially if they are in need of girls. I imagine that the girl would have to be something special for them to go through the effort, but its not impossible.
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Originally Posted by Mia M





What about Australians ???
I know it is basically impossible however I wouldn't mind being able to experience what it's like to dance in Vegas for up to 3 weeks or something.
Just a thought... tho' it isn't a pressing one.
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Katrine,Originally Posted by Katrine link=board=4;threadid=10042;start=msg122012#msg122 012 date=1087213575
The one girl I spoke in depth about this, was quite cute and Sexy. No different, no better than the girls from SW. But , I have to wonder.............were there any "favours" returned on their part?LoL !



I knew this aussie girl she was god damn hot, she managed to go to veges and work, they didn't ask her for anything and no she didn't do favours! lolI think it was cheetas??
I have heard tell - you CAN slip into the odd club here & there in Vegas dancing on the sly - but counting on that to happen might be the biggest mistake.
I do know of girls who HAVE, yup I sure do... so rest assured it aint a myth - but in keeping with reality so is INS, and deportation IS a reality - along with a mark upon your passport via the transgression.
I noticed somebody quoted BriannaVancouver, but Briannavancouver's post doesnt read the same?
The quote taken - Something about Melonie against non americans working the US - well just a note - I'd take great caution putting words in anyone's mouth and because Mel is so incredibly informed and has done the courtesy of sharing her information no matter how unpleasant it may be or that it doesnt reflect what you or anyone may want to hear has no bearing on what she is FOR or AGAINST.
Mel is a wealth of info and lays it out how it is -
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Thanks for reinforcing this point ... please don't shoot the messenger ! Fortunately or unfortunately, I probably hear more about this issue than most, both because I live close enough to the NY/Canadian border to hear about US and Canadian club complications, and because I travel enough to overhear things from customers in big city clubs involving US/Canadian relations.The quote taken - Something about Melonie against non americans working the US - well just a note - I'd take great caution putting words in anyone's mouth and because Mel is so incredibly informed and has done the courtesy of sharing her information no matter how unpleasant it may be or that it doesnt reflect what you or anyone may want to hear has no bearing on what she is FOR or AGAINST.
As I understand it, the US and Canada used to have extremely loose arrangements regarding each other's citizens needing visas or otherwise being restricted at the border. However, because of 9/11, because many of the Al Queda folks caught in the USA got here across the Canadian/US border etc. these special arrangements were terminated.
To hear some club customers tell it, the fact that Canadian PM Jean Chretien failed to support the Iraq coalition, blasted George W. Bush publicly and hung out with Bill Clinton for the world wide media to cover, didn't make any friends in Washington, DC such that US foreign policy and trade policy and exchange rate policy toward Canada took a very icy turn over the past couple of years.
This has affected Canadians wishing to work in the USA, but it has also affected US residents wishing to work in Canada. The strengthening Canadian dollar has caused a huge drop in US spending in Canada, from raw materials to manufactured products to tourism, which of course impacts the Canadian economy much more than the US economy which is 12 times larger. Thus there are very few US citizens trying to work in Canada right now, but lots of Canadian citizens trying to work in the US.
My only personal comment was also based on some things which I had overheard from big city club customers - if Canadians want to see their economy improve, one of the best ways to accomplish that would be to vote out the Liberals and bring back a conservative government, then change Canadian policies back to what they used to be (i.e. pro-business, pro US/UK/AU) before the Liberals took over.
Canadian business guys have been "beside themselves" on this issue, since they are really the ones directly stuck by the change in Canadian policy and the resulting change in US policies toward Canada (and particularly the exchange rate policy, where the Canadian gov't is essentially powerless to weaken the loonie against the US greenback - if it sells 1 CDN$ to try and weaken the value, the US gov't buys 2 CDN$ to strenthen the value).





I have a meetings tonight with some club management so I'll bounce this question off of them and see from their perspective what the solution might be. Perhaps those I talk to have dealt with this before. If you can give me 24 hours, I'll see what I can do to get an answer.
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sorry mel. Yes I did do the quote wrong, I'm new and didn't realise what I had typed had been included in the quote, I'm still getting used to working this site, EVERYONE'S information is greatly appreciated, but yes I suppose other people's opinions can get a bit touchy. Yeah I'm annoyed, it's my own fault I suppose, the situation I'm in. I'm from New zealand, living on the expensive long island, I need a job, so I went to a strip club, and he wanted my social security I didn't have one, so he wants my passport number, and this sorta behavior freaked me out so needless to say i didn't go back, I should have everything sorted by the end of the summer, (it's been 2 years already) it just suxs not having any money and relying on your husband when I've been so independent. Every dancer should know the risks they are taking when choosing to work overseas, and it's nervous enough without other dancers reminding you, That's all. Being able to travel and dance, I've met incrediable people from all over the world, and I'm happy for anyone else who can do the same.





OKAY...I promised I'd be back with the info so here it is.
If you are dancing in Vegas and are not a legal resident, that still isn't an issue. You just have to jump through a few more small hoops. You will have to get sponsored by a club to get your sheriff's card and business license, but that's easy. Anyone in need of help with that can contact me.
When you go down to get your Sheriff's Card, you will need to bring a few things. If you are over 25 years of age, all you will need is two forms of picture ID. One of them has to be your passport and the other can be any state sponsored form of acceptable ID in your country of residence. A driver's license will be just fine. Once you get your sheriff's card, then you have to get your business license just like anyone else does. It's a pice of cake.
Now, if you are under 25 years old, you will be required to also provide a certified copy of your birth certificate in addition to the two forms of ID listed above. That's it. I thought it would be more complicated that that, but that's it!
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DancerWealth, this sounds like the Sherriff's Dep't is placing the entire burden of Patriot Act compliance on the club by requiring club "sponsorship" of a foreign dancer. This also sounds like a potential 'set-up', since the Sherriff's Dep't will be immediately tipped off when the foreign dancer applies for her dancer's license that she'll be working at the 'sponsoring' club.
Actually it might be a smart move to seek out one club as your 'sponsor' to get your dancer's license, and then deliberately seek out different clubs to actually work at.





Basically, if I wanted to work for a week (4-5 shifts) after I had done your Dancer Wealth course in Vegas for the experience and cash (mainly experience).... then all I would have to do is be sponsored by a club ?? How long does getting the sherriff's card and busines license take ??Originally Posted by DancerWealth link=board=4;threadid=10042;start=msg124952#msg124 952 date=1087682296
Or.. because I'm sponsored by a club would I have to work a certain number of shifts or weeks instead of just one week stint ??
It will most likely be my first and last experience dancing in America as I would prefer to keep to my own shores (Australia).![]()
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