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    With all the guys who go to strip clubs they always try to get way more than we offer and try to get the most contact for their money even if it goes against club rules. I do not break the rules at my club (I will get fired belive me) but I hate in when I run into these guys who say "Do I get to touch?" "How good is it?" "What do you do that others don't?" I hate these guys but what do I say. I am such an honest person that I refuse to lie and say I will do stuff I won't don't you guys think that is dangerous anyway? How do I become a good sales person without outright lying but still sell the dance.
    To the first question I say " I don't mind if you touch my legs or arms but the club won't let you go any further" Honestly I don't mind them touching my arms or legs even though I prefer they don't.
    TO the second question I say " I get no complaints"
    To the third quesiton I just say I am a very sensual and affecionate dancer and if he likes that he will like my dance.

    Are these good responses? I never know what to say? How do you guys handle this?

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    I ask, "what are your rules"? Some dancers love to be touched. One I know says to keep your hands on the ride at all times and she gets mad if one of your hands comes off.

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    I tell them straight up but it's the way you say it, say it nice "there's no touching, club rules, and you wouldn't want me to lose my job would you" "If you just relax and let ME do all the work we'll have a great time". It's all about a nice attitude no matter how annoying that question gets " Can I touch"
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    To the questions "what do you do that others don't" and "is it good", I usually say "it will be worth it for you to find out". To the "can I touch" question, I just point to the bouncer and smile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Apple link=board=27;threadid=10128;start=msg122416#msg12 2416 date=1087258930
    To the "can I touch" question, I just point to the bouncer and smile
    HEY! Bouncers dont want a customers touching them either! I swear, we always get treated like pieces of meat. J/K.


    Lilac-
    There really IS no easy, comfortable way to fight off advances of a customer that's hoping and driving for more.

    Good sales techniques for ANY industry always try to find ways to express rejection/denial in the positive. i.e. words like "no", "dont", "cant" need to be lost... instead emphasize the positive "can", "will", "yes", "I am" etc.etc. If you select your phrases with an emphasis on the positive (which you seem to have done very well with!) it leaves a better overall impression with the customer.

    In all reality, if you DO land the hard sale (no pun intended), most of the time it doesn't matter what pre-sale verbal contact limits have been expressed, customers seeking to do what they want usually still try anyways!
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    It's hard, Lilac. I just remind them that touching is against the law here and I don't want to lose my job. They can keep their $20 if they don't like it. If they want to touch, they can find a girlfriend. Good luck!

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    I agree that telling customers up front exactly what they should, or should NOT expect in the private dance room prior to them spending their $20 is the only ethical business practice. Girls that lie to/lead on customers to expect more than the girl is actually willing to deliver can create unpleasant situations as well as cultivating an R.O.B. reputation for the dancer. Unfortunately, for girls working in clubs where other dancers are willing to bend/break club rules and laws, being honest with customers may also result in very few private dance sales.

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    As a customer I think honesty is the best policy. I admit that sometimes I ask some of those questions, but the answer doesn't determine whether I buy a dance or not, I just want to know how to act when I do. My suggestion, state your real rules when asked, and you will end up with a bunch of regulars who are comfortable with your rules. Personality is much more important anyway. Following the rules with a girl you really like is much more fun than violating them with someone you don't especially care for. And I will definately respect the girl who has rules more than I will the others.
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    To this day I don't know all the rules of any club I go to. Sometimes we're asking for information and not to pressure you. I usually get very vague answers when I ask about the rules, so I'm forced to continue asking...every visit. It's unbelievably annoying, but then I can only imagine the annoyance of working as a salesperson, especially if it takes lying to make a sale.

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